Do you ureally want to give the nuclear codes to a convicted felon?

[msc545]

The previous very similiar question was removed by some offended moderator, so I modified it slightly and posted this one. Please continue your discussion.

[exitseven]

If the felon in question actually committed a real crime that could be articulated I would ha ha e second thoughts. I would not hesitate to have President Trump get those codes. The Commander in Chief needs them as leader of the free world. He had them before and he used them wisely I have no reason to think hw would not do the same during his second term.

[msc545]

Yes, we can see how "wise" he is. His record speaks for itself.

[exitseven]

He did not nuke anybody. he used them as a deterrent. If Trump was president do you really think Putin would have tracked Ukraine?

[msc545]

I will articulate the crime for you:

He posted false business records to avoid taxes and to influence a presidential election. ( just read it out loud)

[goaded]

If there was no crime, why was Cohen in prison for years for committing it for Trump?

[exitseven]

The alleged crime happened before Trump announced his candidacy. He did not avoid paying any taxes. He did this so his wife would not find out. This had nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with trying to once again pull an old , senile, corrupt lifelong politician across the finish line so he can complete the destruction of America.

[goaded]

"He did this so his wife would not find out." LMAO. That's why he tried to delay the payment until after the election, "when it wouldn't matter any more".

[exitseven]

@msc545. Still not a crime The Trump organization is a privately owned company and funding an NDA is not a crime. He did it with his own money and not tax dollars.

[goaded]

He lied about the payment. That's illegal. It was to cover up the electoral interference. That's a felony. A jury of his peers has decided that. Who are you to disagree?

[JacobJordan]

@goaded a jury of democrat picked jurors guided by a judge. The fact the judge spoke to the jurors beyond "have you rendered a verdict" makes the entire case bullshit. Impartial? Nope. Judge interfered by coaching the jury? Yup. The whole trial was so poorly executed and so obviously a sham that everyone knew he would be declared guilty before it began and that appeals would throw out the conviction and the case.

[exitseven]

@JacobJordan It is hysterical that the cousin of one pf the jurors posted that his cousin told him that Trump would be found guilty. This was before the verdict was actually rendered. It was on Facebook I think. It was discovered May 29th but was on there for almost a week.

[DryGermanGuy]

It's hysterical that you fell for a hoax that was debunked the same day it emerged:

meidasnews.com/.../facebooker-at-center-of-jury-controversy-calls-himself-professional-sh-tposter

meidasnews.com/.../desperate-trump-pushes-debunked-cousin-jury-hoax-calls-for-mistrial

[msc545]

@DryGermanGuy You cannot reason with these people. The minute you show them proof of something, they start generating "alternate facts. "Mostly to convince themselves.

[JacobJordan]

Which is precisely my point. This "trial" was no American judiciary justice. This was borderline authoritarian and dictatorship level strategy by democrats. Especially when the federal judiciary system refused to file charges. Worse still they HAVE to do it because if there is a case this year is the 5th year meaning by 2025 it'd be too late. Reality is appeals will likely throw the entire thing out. Not to mention this dictatorship level strategy blew up in democrats face. Immediately after the false convictions thousands of liberals were siding with Trump. If even liberals are siding AGAINST liberals over someone they both hate that shows how slimy that whole process was and is.

[msc545]

@JacobJordan I see your alternate facts machine was working overtime. Feel better now?

[DryGermanGuy]

@msc545
I try to understand it, yet it is so bizarre. I guess that's what it means to be in a cult.

[JacobJordan]

You were lying libtard?
www.lawfaremedia.org/.../why-did-federal-prosecutors-drop-trump's-hush-money-case

[JacobJordan]

@DryGermanGuy there is a reason people like you and goaded get along so well with liberals. You goaded and liberals have a history that is quite similar. That is what separates the actual good people of your nation from those that would prefer an alternate version of history.

[goaded]

@JacobJordan You have no clue how a criminal trial works, do you? Judges ALWAYS explain the law to the jury, so that they know what they're supposed to do.

I live in Germany, I'm not German. We get along because we tell the truth and, yes, because we've learned about how fascism works, and we can see it happening again (including the projection of everything they have already done or want to do onto the opposition).

[JacobJordan]

Not surprising why it was removed it is a misleading question. He wasn't convicted of a violent felony. As such the nuclear codes are safe in his hands. Heck only reason they are safer in bidens is because biden is too far gone to even remember them let alone that we have nukes

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Nope, but even if he wasn't convicted, I wouldn't want them going to someone who has already shown he's willing to share national secrets to people who are not supposed to know. For example, him sharing US nuclear submarine info with members of his Mar-a-lago club.

[msc545]

good point.

[exitseven]

He was just talking about the awesome food that they serve. It's not like he shared classified documents with a ghostwriter. Documents he held illegally as well.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Direct story:

According to Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U. S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

[msc545]

He was not talking about food, but you are right - he possessed the documents illegally.

[exitseven]

Then why was he not indicted Likke they indicted Predident Trump? Oh yeah, because Biden is a forgetful old man.

[goaded]

@exitseven Lack of evidence, actually. Coupled with reasonable explanations which couldn't be refuted. Just read the report, page 6, iirc.

[purplepoppy]

Surely there's a law that prevents that? If you don't let felons own guns surely you can't give one access to nuclear weapons.

[NathanDavis]

I'm just glad that there's a few gates and hurdles in the chain of command...

and no hurricane has been harmed in the last years...

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, I don't want to do so.

[CaptainSmartass]

To be fair neither option's particularly good. You've got a choice between Orange Hitler, and Captain Dementia. Both of whom should really be collecting their old age pensions...

Simples...

[coachTanthony]

This is the exact question that Joe Biden hopes that will help him get re elected. Vote FELON in November.

[OddBeMe]

Nope. And I don’t think most Americans do. Theyre just frustrated at the slow economy.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the world learned anything of value from a kangaroo court.

[Anonymous]

The people won't stand for it!

[msc545]

They actually probably will, at least in the US

[Opinion Owner]

Maybe. It's just some bogus phrase he throws out all the time so I throw it back against him.

[msc545]

What is the bogus phrase?

[Opinion Owner]

"The people won't stand for it". He says it all the time about all his trials etc.

[msc545]

oh - I didn't know that. I don't listen to him at all.

[goaded]

What do you think Trump meant when he talked about being imprisoned being a "breaking point"? ↗

[msc545]

@goaded I think he believes that his followers will mak a lot of trouble if this happens. He is probably right.

[Opinion Owner]

They're thinly veiled instructions. He says that they won't stand for it or there's a breaking point and it's how he tells his cultfollowers what to do by telling them that that's how they should view everything that happens to him and they mindlessly follow.

[msc545]

Yes, you are right. He did this crap the last time as well.

[JacobJordan]

Waves of liberals are voting trump over biden and even more after the trial... even your own allies can see the bullshit for the bullshit.

[goaded]

@JacobJordan Nobody's voted for Trump yet. Even in Republican primaries, about 20% vote against him, even though there's no-one left running.

[Agape93]

Give em to me.