What is worse to deal with, an incel among men or a misandrist among feminists?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all men or feminists are bad. Just those specific factions within their respective groups. Please don't come in here bashing men or feminism. Neither are a problem. I may consider removing comments that bash either of them, so stay focused on the options below only.

Incels among men

Misandrists among feminists

[jennyPuss]

Well if you just go by the names alone... incel means involuntary celibate. Misandry means to hate men.

Incels self-identify their condition as involuntary. So any negativity birthed from that condition is ultimately a result of and not a cause.

Take retarded kids. I'm sure there's quite a few that are angry at being retarded. Did they choose to be retarded? No. They understand they are different and underprivileged and how can we not be at least somewhat understanding when they bite their caretakers?

Misandrists on the other hand are people who choose to behave certain ways or hold certain views simply because they want to. Nobody can make you think or feel a certain way. If somebody offended you in the past and you chose to hold a grudge instead of forgive, then that is entirely on you.

So in the end, I don't really hold much judgment for either based on their ideology. I judge the behavior.

[mandyfire98]

Both are equally annoying and hateful. Both are pathetic. Both won't ever change their hateful views or their misguided views on things. Both are equally worthless in the end.

They should date each other honestly, but they're too much alike.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Agreed. Just curious if people will vote for one or the other anyway or just leave comments like yours basically denouncing both. I have a sneaking suspicion which way this is gonna go though.

[mandyfire98]

I will say male incels are typically more physically violent in nature just based on the number of incel mass murderers over the years. So that might ultimately tip the scales a bit.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I think the worst could be the incel type, on the assumption that: the incel might be more inclined to act criminally and do some real psycho shit to people. Compared to a misandrist.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Plus, unless the numbers changed, which I doubt, a male has statistically more chances to engage into murder, no?

[Pohjolan]

Most incels are just normal guys failing at dating for some reason while also not seeking the services of prostitutes.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I think it's a bit more than that though. There is a sense of entitlement with people like that. They feel they are owed sex for some reason and blame women for their own problems. There's nothing normal about them.

[Pohjolan]

That's just a loud minority.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Same for misandrists. As others have said though, there is a lot less misandrists resorting to violence in comparison to incels. .

[Pohjolan]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
Firstly men are in general more prone to be violent.
Secondly there is way more incels than misandrists.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Very true which just goes to prove my point.

[Pohjolan]

Which point?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

That incels are more dangerous when it comes to violence.

[Pohjolan]

Well Valerie Solanas wanted to kill half of humankind but failed to kill one unarmed guy while using a gun.
This however doesn't necessarily mean that misandrists would be less prone to act violently if they were equally capable to do so.
I mean I have taken on five gals at once letting them take a hold of me on the floor first, to show how difficult it can be to deal with a stronger and trained adversary.

[jennyPuss]

I think you are mistaken. I Don't believe they think they are owed sex. It's just that they haven't yet figured out how to articulate their grievances as well as mgtow men.

I recently read an article titled that women were more likely to contract STDs... and you guessed it... because of misogyny.

How is it misogynistic for a man to enjoy the company of several women who are WILLING to share him, and thus increase the odds of catching something if it is introduced to the group?

Women are all trying to go for the same guys. That's WOMENs' doing, not men. But we are supposed to blame the guys who aren't getting laid?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

No you clearly don't visit their forums much. Most are clearly in the camp of they are owed sex and talk a big game of how they can take it by force.

[Pohjolan]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
Most incels don't visit incel forums nor advertise being one.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

And yet they exist

[Pohjolan]

Of course. With the current dating market its a statistical certainty.

[Apple1996]

Incels seem way more likely to shoot up a school or do other dangerous things so gotta go with them. Feminists aren't trying hurt anyone

[jennyPuss]

I beg to differ. It's just a slower acting poison. Still lethal

[Apple1996]

@jennyPuss I've never heard of a feminist shooting up a school

[jennyPuss]

killing is still killing. I've heard of feminists cutting off their son's penis and then stabbing him in the crotch until he died. never heard of a man doing that.

[Billlewis]

I've never heard hear about a misandrist killing anyone, but I think that the incel phenomenon may yet prove to be the catalyst that saves society. If men have no motivation to treat women as well as we used to, I don't think that's a recipe for success. Maybe having to work harder to get it will improve M/F relations. Here's an eye opening article --

https://emilynagoski.substack.com/p/im-sorry-youre-lonely-but-its-not

[ChicoFromThe305]

It's the same results, the only difference is the genders are switched lol

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Basically right, but I'm curious as to what people say in the voting as to which is worse. I didn't add a "both are bad" option for a reason lol

[ChicoFromThe305]

So you are trying to start a war? Is that it Bri? 😂

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

*grin*

[ChicoFromThe305]

I understand the mission 😂😂

[Anonymous]

Incels are annoying but harmless unless they go on a shooting spree, which most obviously don't. Feminists actually influence public policy, and not always in good ways.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

That's hard. Misandrists tend to at least be charismatic. Incel dudes complain and complain all day, if you talk to them about woman it's always the same responses.

[Nikki1989]

Incels seem the most easily triggered.

[Juxtapose]

Incels have more physical power and misandrist have more social power. I think the social power is more potent because physical power can be canceled out with firearms or tasers for the most part.

[Anonymous]

Feminists and incels are cut from the same cloth. They are equally hateful and harmful to society.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Basically, but I'm curious what people will vote for, and with the number of men on this site who answer questions, I'm gonna guess that misandrists are gonna win.

[Opinion Owner]

True, but look how females are voting. Not all women are dishonest about this issue. Are you?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Look how males are voting. I'm not the one who think one is worse than the other. This is just more a question to see what others think.

[Opinion Owner]

But we also want to know what you think, which is only fair. Please share.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I think both are bad, but I also think that with feminists people tend to associate the movement as all of us hating men, which isn't true. There are just a very vocal minority, just like there is with incels for men, that cast a bad light on their respective groups.

Nobody associates incels as being what all men are, but a lot of people associate feminists as being misandrist. This poll so far is proving that.

[Opinion Owner]

Feminists support feminism, thereby enabling the bad behavior of feminists. The feminist movement is sexist. Supporting it means you are sexist.

www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../

[Opinion Owner]

Claiming not all feminists are sexist is like claiming not all incels are sexist, and we all know that's not true.

All these gender based movements are sexist. You don't have to support any of them or wear any label to support treating everyone fairly.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Politefully disagree. You are welcome to your opinion though

[Pohjolan]

How is a incel automatically hateful and harmful to society?
Say we have some guy named Smith who is a productive member of society and getting laid now and then but his face gets ruined in workplace accident turning him into a incel.
How will this by default turn him into a hateful and harmful person?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I didn't say it makes all incels violent. I'm saying more incels have turned to violence in comparison to misandrists.

[Billlewis]

I think this was one of the life changing events that helped induce me into becoming an incel --
Why Did It Excite Me So Much When She Encouraged Guys To Bully Me? ↗

[ThatGuyAaron]

Both are obnoxious and intolerable, but I'd probably vote for incels among men given that they are more likely to become violent if they choose to physically act upon their beliefs.

[beefcakebradybatson]

The former, because incels are MUCH MORE likely to harm or kill a woman than a misandrist is to murder a man.

[sirderpsalot123]

It's close, but whiney/illogical dudes piss me off the most lol we just aren't supposed to act like that. I guess I just hold men to a higher standard.

[Anonymous]

Misandrists have a much shorter track record of violence.

[ProbablyClueless]

People will speak out less against misandrist women, so I would say that they're worse to deal with.

A man hater has to get really outrageous before people will call her on her shit. An incel will get pushback for the smallest comment.

[Anonymous]

Feminists are worse because they have political clout and the power to harm males with it, which they do. No one takes incels seriously.

[JSkye]

Both can be rather infuriating 🤷🏻‍♀️