Why do women refuse to exercise?

[pickledxtofu]

Questions from women:

"Do guys mind saddlebags and flabby thighs?"

Details:

"I have saddlebags and flabby thighs and a jiggly butt. Do guys mind?"

Heaven forbid you introduce the concept of EXERCISE. They would rather be insecure and hope that society caters to them then to workout and eat healthier.

Why is this?

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And I'm not saying exercise is a miracle or that one has to train like an olympic athlete. But c'mon, you know the answer to those questions. No, your banana rolls, saddlebags, flabby thunder thighs, bird wings and gut are not attractive and generally not acceptable to most men cause it usually means your chubby/fat.

[Daph81]

Let's not be judgmental to each other here. As women, we know how hard life is already. Let's just not put each other down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for exercising and getting in shape and changing what you don't like about yourself. But this question indicates really strongly that if a woman has something jiggly, then she needs to exercise it off, otherwise she can't be attractive to guys. Whereas some guys really do prefer some meat or don't mind some meat. Maybe not in a sense that a woman who is morbidly obese is fine, but not every woman can be all muscular and toned. Pear-shaped girls, for example, can have a totally healthy BMI, and yet still have a bit of fat deposited in her butt and thigh area. It's just how her body works. Maybe she is insecure about it, that's why she asked. I think most guys don't expect their women to be all like Venus Williams.

So why don't we (as women) put off the pressure off each other, and just try not to be so harsh on each other when we don't know what kind of person she is or how she looks like for a start. Having something jiggling a little doesn't always mean she is chubby and unhealthy. My God, some skinny women worry so much about "armpit fat", when in fact it's just skin folds that shows when you wear a tight strapless top.

Now I'm not here to have an argument, God knows I'm really not in the mood for an argument right now. So I won't get into a debate with anybody. This answer is my opinion, and other people don't like it, whatever.

[pickledxtofu]

Venus Williams doesn't have a good body and even the average pro tennis player isn't as good as her (or her sister).

But when a girl is asking questions about it why wouldn't they turn to exercise instead of hoping society will love out of shape women? It's just odd. It's like a fat woman who complains about needing to lose weight as she eats a bag of potato chips

[Daph81]

as I said, having a little bit of jiggle on the thigh doesn't always mean that person is out of shape and unhealthy. See the picture first before judging. That's all I'm saying. Thighs are supposed to jiggle a little. I just got back from Zumba, and the trainer is skinny and super fit and muscular and toned, but when shaking her arms, she has that slight flapping under her arms.

[pickledxtofu]

The average woman in America is a size 16. There's a difference between a little jiggle and a sea of jiggle--that's the problem. You don't have size 8 girls asking these questions, it's the size 12+ girls

[Daph81]

How do you know what size they are? The banana roll girl is anonymous and did not say what size she is. For all we know, she could be a size 6 and still have banana rolls.

Look, I said I don't want a debate, and I meant it. I just meant to give a constructive criticism here, that maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on judging other women when we don't know what size she is. Life as a woman is hard enough as it is. The least we can do is try not to be too harsh to each other.

[pickledxtofu]

I'm not trying to debate with you as I realize it's not what you want (and neither do I), I'm just inquiring on why recommending improvement is such a sensitive topic. Only in America are women so against the idea of improving themselves.

I'm not talking about perfection here either. Jiggle is normal, indeed.

[Darkfairie17]

I don't know where you are from, but I'm from Canada and this isn't a problem here. Most people are fit obsessed here. Yes we still have fat people, and I am one of them. But for the most part, people are pretty fit, at least in my circle.

In defence of this site, I don't think most of the people asking those questions are obese, I think it's just a little jiggle, or maybe there's nothing there at all and they are just insecure. Most of the people on this site are pretty young and from what I have seen of these types of questions, there isn't usually a problem with the person. I know a lot of people who are fit and still think they have jiggles and bulges when there aren't any.

Sure you could suggest fitness and I know that I have, along with others, suggested exercise as an answer to these types of questions. But I always put it nicely. I always say if they are unhappy with it, then working out might help, but only if they want to.

I agree with you though. If someone is not exercising and refuses to and isn't willing to face the music, then yes I can see why that would be frustrating. By all means, suggest exercise to them, even if they say not to suggest it. Because some people need to face the facts lol.

[vmw2008]

Well, as a girl that has focused on diet and exercise most of her life, I can say that it's not that easy. I WOULD have to train like an olympic athlete, and starve myself, to be fully rid of my thicker thighs and other points of insecurity. That's just the way my body was built. I got lucky with my thin arms, face, and flat stomach, I doubt anyone would call me chubby, but I have hips and thighs. Period. I've struggled with a hint of saddlebags and banana rolls even at the peak of my fitness level.

While I understand the point you were trying to make, try to understand that it's not all fat slobs sitting on their couches that are worried about these things. They are also curvy-thin, health conscious women with genetics battling against her.

& just a side note, this isn't just a woman problem. This is a nation problem. Men and women alike are refusing to exercise, so lets hold everyone accountable instead of acting like only women are avoiding exercise like the plague. All the beer guts on the men I see out say otherwise.

[pickledxtofu]

Thick thighs =/= flabby

But I rarely see men asking questions hoping that people won't tell them to work out. Most women don't work out and love excuses not to do so. Why do you think Maria Kang pissed off so many people? (when her posts were directed at her followers hoping to lose weight)

And since the average woman in America is a size 16 or 5'4 165 lbs, it's difficult to say those girls aren't fat slobs...

[RedThread]

Because it's "shallow" for a guy to have preferences. You see the same behavior from men on the penis size questions and all that. It's definitely not gender exclusive. It's something I really don't understand because I struggle with periods of weight gain/loss and I have to say looking in the mirror when I'm on the heavy side makes me feel sick to my stomach. I literally feel disgusting that I allow myself to get like that at times. Not only that but being in public when I'm not putting my best foot forward makes me feel completely ashamed. Also I get so much attention from women when I'm in shape so seeing that just completely disappear is so disheartening. I don't know people can live in that state for several years on end without wanting to change.

I gained like 80 lbs when my sister almost died in a car accident and when she got better I lost like 60 lbs in like 3 months. I figured if my sister can go through recuperation and learn how to walk again with prosthetic legs I can stop being a piece of shit and lose a few pounds. Perspective on things really can help as well. Losing weight really isn't that hard compared to real struggles that people go through.

[Darkfairie17]

I agree with you. What it pretty much comes down to is that when you want to change, you have to be ready and really want it. And that means putting forth the effort. I think the problem with these people asking the questions who do need to lose, it's that they just aren't ready and aren't willing to face the truth yet.

[Theguyoverthere]

A lot of the visual tactics women tend to use don't involve exercising. That's why. They'll use fashion to hide such things but when it comes time to removing all the clothing and makeup, suddenly they get insecure. So if they're fat, they'll refrain from wearing tight clothing so hide the rolls and such. They'll wear pants that hide the flabby thighs. They'll try not to let their pants hug their butt too much.

Now if you tell a woman or a man to exercise, you'll get 1001 excuses(usually time related).

Honestly, men get like this too, and I feel the gym is much more necessary for them to look good. But it's like men really think that women "have to ignore" a man's appearance and "see past it" and act like women are not compassionate and "sensitive to a man's needs" when god forbid, women are allowed to have their own visual preferences themselves. Men won't get in shape themselves either, they'll just throw gifts at a girl and hope she "sees past his appearance."

I think society as a whole needs to exercise, especially in this fast food generation. It's becoming a lost art.

[pickledxtofu]

Guys are constantly told women only care about personality lol

[Theguyoverthere]

Yea that's totally false too so guys now think showering women with gifts saying they are "nice" is the way to go and when it does not workout they call the girl a "gold digger."

[desidoll]

I agree with your second paragraph.

[isthisthingon]

do you have any exercise tips for me I am overweight but my height keeps me from appearing my actual weight. I know that I need to lose 40lbs. I'm not poor but I am unemployed and I joined a gym that has a one year experation

[Theguyoverthere]

Honestly just a short amount of high intensity cardio works just fine. Like 20-30 minutes of cardio a day(high intensity though, not just walking) and just read the nutrition facts on everything you eat. After that it is smooth sailing. Worry about toning after losing the pounds.

[isthisthingon]

I want to take up fitness boxing in addition to a gym. do you have any knowledge in this area as a beginner who is trying to lose weight,do you suggest I go to the gym one day and fitness boxing the next day? & rotate? how about weight loss guide apps like lose,it? Would you reccomend that? & thanks for your help.

[loveisbeautiful]

I don't know why other women don't exercise, but I hate to exercise.

It's not my thing, so I opt for dancing (because, I do it for fun). I don't

care enough about looking like Malibu Barbie, to work out obsessively

and eat lettace leaves, like I'm a bunny. Also, one day all you people on here

who seem to think that working out and eating right are the key to enternal

youth, beauty and living well into your 100's. Will find out, that means nothing

and it gurantees you nothing! It's everything in moderation, that's how you do it!

I just have to say, you could have tactfully worded this question better.

This is why women and people in general have such low self esteem,

because they've got poeple telling them if they don't work out and eat

carrots, they'll get "fat" And, gosh forbid they're actually have some meat

on there bones or are they're porportioned different then other women! Seriously,

this was a very rude question and could use more tact.

P.S. I'd rather be fat, happy and single. Then, Skinny,deprived and with someone

who just wants to show me off because of my hot body!

[pickledxtofu]

Who said anything about only eating carrots and working out? This is why women in North America are so fat. They use an extreme to justify their laziness and bad eating habits

[loveisbeautiful]

I don't consider not wanting to go to the gym, to be lazy. Not everybody likes to workout.

Not to mention, isn't eating carrots considered healthy? So, isn't that what you healthy people

want? Also, eating a dount once a week, is not eating bad. As long as you don't do it all

the time, I don't see the problem! Like I said, everything in moderation.

[pickledxtofu]

If I say I don't like to work so I don't do it, that's being lazy. Same with working out. I mentioned moderation in my question while you resorted to saying that I'm insinuating women only eat carrots and work out. And the problem with American women is they eat a donut every day, instead of once a week. hence 2/3 of Americans being fat

[loveisbeautiful]

We're clearly not gonna get anywhere with this, because I don't agree. But, just keep in mind some people over eat, to numb the pain of things that have happened to them. So, instead of going around calling people (or this case, women 'fat") and telling them they're not attractive. You should spend a little more time being sympathic and realizing, you don't know why they over eat or are even over weight. So, don't assume!

[pickledxtofu]

Nah, the rest of the world doesn't have the issue of being fat. Like Maria Kang said, there's no excuse

[loveisbeautiful]

Whatever, believe what you want.

[loveisbeautiful]

BTW, this is why people like me (who already have confidence issues). Never really get ahead in that department, because we realize it doesn't matter what you look like or do, someones always just bound and termined to make you feel crappy about yourself. This site, is the best place to fine that. But, instead of making me sad, it now just makes me angry!

[Roxxisa]

I agree with you 'loveisbeautiful'

[loveisbeautiful]

Thanks,Roxxisa : )

[CheeseLoveWhiz]

In my opinion it's because of a few factors.

Both skinny and overweight guys in society are told that they have to look like the athletic/muscular guy. Men are encouraged more to play sports.

Women , on the other hand are usually shown just thin/curvy but, not muscular body types. I feel like most women try diets before ever stepping foot into a gym . Women are in fact targeted in commercial with low fat yogurt, diet soda and snacks , you name it! The truth is that with exercise, you results or quicker.

I hope that jumbled mess I typed made sense but, anyway what's really important here is good exercise and a healthy diet no matter what you look like!

[Phoenix1991]

Well, its probably just the individual but its usually a combo of laziness and pride. Not only women do this, men do it too.

People develop this state of mind of comfortableness with their body, With that, you slack off and gain weight or get out of shape. Now, I'm a workout junkie but I don't judge other people's lifestyles because its not my right to judge but from time to time, I wonder how people can truly let themselves go too much and still think nothing changed about their body.

With that being said, I still can find women who are overweight or a couple of pounds, but definitely not over 250 lbs.

[Tractorbeam]

What you say is true enough,and moreso thesedays than ever.

Exercise isn't fashionable and most people are unfit.Women look for a diet cure to lose fat and flab,and about 3 out of 4 need to lose weight.They don't want to be healthy,they just want to look slimmer.

Walk,run,ride a bicycle,do something for God's sake,and keep fit.It won't turn you into a gorilla like a body-builder.Look at a marathon runner.Do they look like a gorilla?

If you don't stay fit,you will age quicker and soon won't look good.

[heavensgift2girls]

A lot of women are afraid of exercise, because they are afraid of gaining muscle. It seems like women view the female body much differently than men do. Women see a gorgeous woman with nice muscle tone and think she is too masculine. We also live in a very lazy and unhealthy society where neither gender wants to be physically active.

[pickledxtofu]

Men generally aren't attracted to muscle tone either. It IS a masculine trait. But women can still turn to hot yoga and pilates and tone up without muscle tone or definition. They can also do more than just walking on a treadmill. You know, like intervals or jogging/running

[heavensgift2girls]

It depends on how much muscle the woman has. Some muscle is needed to give the sexy curves in a woman's body. It seems like most women I have talked to are terrified of having ANY muscle, and this is almost always the reason they give for not working out. A few have even told me they think running would bulk up their leg muscles.

[pickledxtofu]

Muscle isn't necessary. But overall muscle definition on a female is unattractive and typically makes women look stumpy. If you look at VS models they don't have muscle (without photoshop). They're soft and slender yet still toned.

[TheReturnofDre]

This is a well put answer.

[heavensgift2girls]

They are trying to market their product to women, so VS models are models that will appeal to women, not men.

[pickledxtofu]

The largest viewership of the VS model fashion show is men. Men like VS models. It's a fact. And there's nothing wrong with that. But aside from the guys on here I don't know a single dude who wouldn't give a testicle to be with one

[heavensgift2girls]

Those women are beautiful, but that doesn't mean that those very same women wouldn't still be beautiful with a little more muscle tone. Muscle tone is feared more by women than it should be.

[pickledxtofu]

Because it should be. It's not attractive to anyone except guys on here...

[heavensgift2girls]

You do realize you have just proved my point that woman are afraid of gaining muscle. Even if you are correct that men don't like women with muscle as much as women without muscle, men would still rather a woman with muscle over a fat woman. Currently woman fear of muscle is so strong they avoid exercise, and remain fat. Women could benefit from lifting low weight, with a high number of weights. This would avoid making them bulky, and help them reshape their body.

[Darkfairie17]

I think the problem where women are afraid of muscle has developed because there is a lot of misinformation out there. I have a friend who did some fitness competitions and while training was asked (at the gym!) why she works out like a man. The guy actually said "do you want to look like a man?". WTF!?

[Roxxisa]

**answering because people are saying how women are lazy bastards, etc

"Women* refuse to exercise"

1) *Its not just women who refuse to exercise.

&

2) just because a person isn't toned doesn't mean they don't exercise.

I exercise regularly to stay 'in shape' and I've been doing so for years. and... guess what... I still have problem areas (who would've thought?). I have fat around my hips & belly, my ass jiggles, and my thighs touch. Main thing is: I'm healthy, along with many other men and women that questions like these do not take into account.

Although, there are many people (men&women) who may expect society to cater to them (for whatever the reason), or to not be healthy. Those are the types of people we should be encouraging to DO SOMETHING. I don't think we could bash them cause (most likely if they're already insecure) they would take more offense, and therefore become more insecure, unhealthy, and needy.

[pickledxtofu]

I've yet to see a person who exercise that isn't toned. Of course on the internet everyone is a blubber who runs marathons

[darkfoxjj]

If you don't excercise - which is super beneficial to your health. As it reduces the RISK of lots and lots of diseases.

You have to become a nutrition NAZI. Check the labels on everything - make sure you don't 'overeat' too much.

If you do, eat less the next day to compensate etc.

I personally love exercising, its 10x more fun with friends or if conducted in a gametype fashion (like football aka soccer).

And you won't have to be such a nutrition NAZI to stay lean.

[isthisthingon]

Not only can excercise result in a better body visually but it releases endorphins and can make you feel better about youself. and I do not understand how these fat man are getting skinny woman because I do not find fat on a man attractive either I do not care how much money he makes.

[AdamThomas]

Because they're lazy bastards and they'd rather have guys lie to them and tell them that they're attractive just the way they are, that they can eat as many cakes and McDonalds and chocolates and drink as much alcohol as they like and still be attractive, rather than eat properly snd get some exercise.

[PinkAcid]

they want the reassurance from the politically correct crowd that men love bigger women and no ones attracted to thin/average women who resemble bones and "what the evil media is trying to push onto us all"

[purplelavender]

Both genders like to make excuses.

Why?

I'm not sure about women. I'm not attracted to women so I don't know. I can't even guess what it would be. But I think men are still under the impression that women don't care about looks. I don't know why women lie about that.

Bottom line, both genders need to stay in shape.

[pickledxtofu]

I think a lot of men are under the impression that we only care about personality. But LOL @ the comment you left on that guys response. I didn't wanna say anything

[purplelavender]

;)

[laramills23]

well that's utter crap. I exercise regularly and make sure my body is in great shape. Maybe most girls are lazy - not me though!

[mantobee]

becuase girls know that every guy who doesn't look like a model wants them (even though they don't give us the privelage to talk to them becuase they only want good looking guys )

while we are forced to go to the gym hoping that a girl commits a miracle and allows us to date her

[AD5866]

I excercise...so I must not be a woman then, right?

Gosh, I had no idea. And all this time I thought I was a woman..

[pickledxtofu]

Real women have rolls--I mean curves

[snowboarder720]

I mind a lot. I'm not attracted to big girls at all. Definitely not my cup of tea. lol

[snowboarder720]

BTW, I'm in excellent shape. 5'8" weighing 140 lb. I snowboard, wakeboard, and skateboard on a daily basis.

[celestialdaeva]

And you're how old?

[snowboarder720]

why do you ask? 25

[celestialdaeva]

You're an idiot if you think having a problem area means that person doesn't exercise or that exercise would get rid of them all.

[pickledxtofu]

Name calling is a sign of maturity. Apparently you've never read those questions nor have you seen a QA get upset when you do suggest exercise and they make all of the excuses in the world

[snowboarder720]

could you specify your answer? I'm unsure of what you really mean. I'm not attracted to bigger women because they don't suit me very well. I'm a very active guy that enjoys extreme sports. I'm attracted to women with similar interests. A large majority of obese or overweight women don't partake in those sports. Hence why I'm not attracted.

[pickledxtofu]

You mentioned that you skateboard and snowboard which to her is immature. That was her defense mechanism for you saying you don't like big girls. She resorted to name calling because my post struck a nerve.

[Betwyn]

Saddlebags? what? lol..

[pickledxtofu]

Fat on the sides of the thighs/hips

[stillagoodgirl]

Its laziness & procrastination

[Calex]

Why do men not ask these questions?

[whiteknight01]

Yes I do mind.

[purplelavender]

You mind what? Because you have no room to say anything.

[Lj238]

But you're fat lol.

[pickledxtofu]

OH

MY

GOODNESS

Lmao

[Daph81]

I have tried not to be mean all this time, but now I feel like I had to say this. In one of your answers, you said that you feel offended if a fat girl approaches you because they want to date you. You go for girls who are cute and slim and skinny. And in your current photo as well as in the photos you've deleted, you don't seem to be in shape as well.

All I'm saying is, maybe it's time to adjust your expectations? And not be too harsh to women? Then maybe you'd finally find a girl.

[whiteknight01]

@Lj238 Guys worthless opinions are irreverent to me.

[whiteknight01]

@Daph81 Then how come I get dates with thin girls? I'm not fat, however I'm a tiny bit overweight. I get dates with thin girls without effort.

[pickledxtofu]

Delusions and dreams don't count

[whiteknight01]

Why would I lie?

[jenni_ms]

omg lmao these comments just made my day.

[Hamburgers]

Lmao, BA