I don't believe in a Christian God
If you believe in a God but you aren't harassing me about hellfire or other random BS involving your religion then you're cool with me and I'm not going to say much to you about it
However if you are one of those people who wants to shove your Bible in my face and piss me off and insult me and even threaten me with hellfire or whatever then I'm going to say some choice things about your religion to your face and I will make sure that you hate it with every fiber of your being because I'm Petty
Again if you believe in God that's okay if you try to shove your God in my face that's not okay
Not only that but in some ways it's actually against your own religion or at least that's what my interpretation of Matthew 6:12 is
I mean I could be totally wrong maybe Matthew 6:12 doesn't apply in this case for whatever reason or maybe my interpretation is wrong but I don't know I could be completely right or completely wrong if I'm completely right then well these people who keep doing this are both hypocrites and a pain in my ass
However if I am completely wrong then these people are possibly hypocrites and still a pain in my ass
Do with this information as you wish I don't want to start an argument you be chill with me I'll be chill with you
Also within the past week I have had three different occasions where three separate people who believe in the Bible have hounded me over not believing the Bible or because I said something that goes against their beliefs not that I insulted their beliefs but said something that goes against them like if I was talking to my dad while walking across the street and said I like to eat bacon and there was a Muslim near me that then got upset at me despite the fact that number one I didn't know there was a Muslim near me and did number two it's none of their business I was talking to my dad and we were just talking about bacon if you get what I mean not trying to bash on any Muslims here I'm just using as close to a similar description as I can and of Muslims and bacon came to mind because I was talking about religion and that just happened to be what came up
Also worth note I'm just going to throw it out there
While I am not a Christian or believe in the holy Bible I do have a religion that isn't based around the Bible
Honestly the reason I brought up my religion is just to let you know that I do have a faith it's just not yours
I can understand why people would want to spread their ideology given I am a cultist of sorts and for small bit this little underground cult was pretty popular in the area we haven't had contact with the followers in a while though unfortunately because covid hit and that inhibited some of our practices unfortunately
We believe in multiple gods but I specifically only support one of them well I support multiple but there's only one of the gods that I'd say I'm incredibly familiar with this specific God and that's okay cuz you know we all have our beliefs and we all value different things and in my case I value my God over the other real gods or what I deem to be real because I have no proof or at least all my proof is circumstantial
Anyone who wants to know more about it feel free to ask if you want to know specifics that's even better because then I don't have to waste as much time
It is absolutely wrong to insult anyone for any reason, not only concerning faith, but insulting in general is the worst thing to do to others. When you insult others it is because you are so weak to defend yourself, and if you just attack them and insult them without being hurt or harmed by them then you’re absolutely a racist person.
Allaah the almighty said in Quran:
(49:13) O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allāh is the most righteous[1521] of you. Indeed, Allāh is Knowing and Aware.
(49:11) O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name [i. e., mention] of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
(16:125) Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.
(4:148) Allāh does not like the public mention of evil except by one who has been wronged. And ever is Allāh Hearing and Knowing.
(25:63) And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily,[1035] and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,[1036]
(Chapter 111):
(1) Say, "O disbelievers, (2) I do not worship what you worship. (3) Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. (4) Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. (5) Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. (6) For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
(2:256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt[104] and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing.
Yes it is wrong, its none of your or my business what someone else's beliefs might be when it doesn't concern us.
so long as they are not trying to push their religion/non religion into someone else, then they're good
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The options don't fully reflect my views on this.
Having a belief in *something* is compatible with the available observations.
Sure, I don't believe in that because I feel that the correct application of Occam's razor is to not apply the god theory or any other supernatural explainations since I feel like science provides an adequate explaination for everything.
But technically there isn't a definitive proof either for or against a god theory.
However when your beliefs directly contradict the observations then it's you that have a problem I feel.
For Christians that's typically the denominations that believe that the bible should be read literally.
With little or no regards for the context that it was written in.
For instance Christians believing that the Earth is about 6 000 years old, and that god created all species in their current shape in 6 days then rested on the seventh.
Yeah, that just doesn't fit the evidence, sorry.
Now you *could* say that it's not literal days in the modern sense but the way that people of the time tried to explain him working hard for some time (billions of years) before resting, and that he created life through the process of evolution.
Guiding randomness along a certain path or whatever, and the data wouldn't be contradicting that at all.
And when the religion on the top of everything else is used to judge and hurt others, then sorry, no, I don't have much sympathy left at that stage
Another approach is that the stories of creation isn't the important part of the religion to start with.
For instance I kind of like the approach that some variations of quackers use or some universalist have.
That everyone have a inner light or something like that, including nonbelievers, and that we should follow the *values* taught by Jesus about compassion etc.
That kind of belief I don't really have a problem with.
And sure technically there's still a God involved etc, but no humans are hurt and the belief is respectful towards other humans, the observations and just their surroundings.
Yes it’s wrong , considering everyone comes from different journey’s in life , why it’s best to keep your religion and beliefs to yourself , it’s ok to talk about your beliefs to someone but to force it upon someone else or insult someone else for what they believe is wrong to do , Just because someone goes to church doesn’t make them a good person just because someone doesn’t go to church doesn’t make them a bad person , some people were raised without religion being taught to them in their lives , I grew up with a family that really didn’t talk much about religion that didn’t take me to church for me to learn about religion. Religion came to me by my choice of whether I wanted to believe in it or not , it was my choice to accept it or not accept it , I choose to accept it and I choose to keep learning about it , I am no holy roller but I have my beliefs, whether someone tells me I am right or wrong that is their problem not mine. If someone insults me based off of my beliefs I am open to hear what they have to say but it doesn’t mean I have to agree with them , I don’t have a problem explaining why I choose
To believe the way I do but in no way shape or form will I force my beliefs on to someone else , if they want to hear my beliefs then I don’t have a problem telling them but I will not force it on them
As a none believe I never get involved with religious women. I tried but never works out, more of an issue for them, than with me in me them.
In all truth the believers I got involved with were some of the most disingenuous women I have ever known. Believing in and preaching the word is a lot easier than living and being a moral individual. They seemed to lack to need faith to validate their morality and themselves. And of course I am an ethical self validating type of person, and these religious types seem to be very mistrusting of that... provokes some deep rooted insecurities with in them, which is probably why their believers to begin with.
Depends! If the person is not being pushy I am OK with their beliefs! I get angry when they cross the line and start pushing religion! For example. A very good friend of mine and his wife are devout Sunni Muslims. When I first meet someone I ask about religious beliefs because some religions have dietary restrictions. A Muslim is not supposed to consume things like Jello! I'm getting sidetracked, just know if you are close to this person you need to know if they are religious so you can avoid "issues" later on. Then as long as they are not pushing their beliefs on me or other guests I am OK with it and will respect them.
It's wrong to insult anyone without provocation. So the question remains, was there any provocation?
I see someone who tries to convince me to change my beliefs as provocation, and as such I may tell them a few home truths. If that is seen as an insult? So be it.
However, would I ever insult without provocation? Nope. never.
No, it is not wrong as it is to be expected if Christian. False gods like Allah, Moon hod of Mecca should be called out. As it relates to Christians:
—2Peter 2:1 “But false prophets will rise among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who brought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Yes it is, especially if that person wants you to believe something specific is god
So, for example, if i say that trump isn't god, to someone who believes he is, I have a right to not believe trump isn't god. Just like that person has a right to believe he is. It doesn't make trump god though. it just means that's what I believe and what that person believes
Of course, you shouldn't insult someone either way, you don't have to like their beliefs or lack of but that's not an excuse to look down on them and insult them.
All that's gonna do is make you look like an asshole and show people just how ugly you truly are on the inside.
Many years ago atheists were mocked which was wrong. Now there anti-theists who are doing the reverse which is also very wrong. Just live and let live.
Christians are commanded to share the word. But we were never commanded to persecute non-believers.
No it’s not acceptable. I’ve learned that people are entitled to believe to have their faiths as long as they are respectful of others. I used to be more combative with religious debates but now I just simply drop it.
Live and let live. Despite my belief that religion is child indoctrination and that all it ever brought to the world is war, divide and violence, I will never insult a religious person for their belief. I might insult them if they're assholes, but that has no link to their beliefs.
Yes it's wrong.
It also shows a lack of maturity and intelligence to not be able to get an opinion across without insulting someone.
I think it's wrong to insult someone for any reason. Let's just not insult anybody and all try to live peacefully.
It's ALWAYS wrong to mock someone's religious beliefs, whether they're the same as yours or not.
I mean... it is kinda dumb to believe in any religion with all the information available to us nowadays. I'll always call theists sheep. Cry me a river.
Yes. I believe in him and I don't try to influience others, one way or another. they are always welcome to come to church with me if they would like.
Yes it's wrong, and I'm a non-believer. It's just rude to do that!
Of course not, actually I just had this conversation about no one should be speaking for God and this goes down that same path, there's no reason for someone telling you what you should believe in or what you chose not to believe in.
yes- it's their choice whether or not they wanna believe in god
Yeah. I’m not religious, I don’t believe in god. I have strong opinions on religion but if someone else believes, I don’t feel the need to tell them that they’re wrong or argue with them about it. I respect everyone’s beliefs.
Unless they use their religion to be an asshole and go around telling people that they’re going to hell, that’s the only way I would tell them off
90% of insults when it comes to god come from atheist. Most of these assholes will deviate a conversation into a religious talk about existence of god if the word god is mention in passing even if not part of the main topic of the convo.
A former co-worker of mine aggressively tried converting me to protestant Christianity last week. I'm an agnostic and told him I wasn't interested in what he was trying to sell me, but he wouldn't shut up about it.
@BazookaTrouper now that's forcing their beliefs on you.
Yep. All my co-workers found that guy to be incredibly annoying, because of both that and because he tended to slack off instead of doing his job.
I think no one have right to insult anyone related to anything. We should respect everyone prespective and believe.
To insult someone? That's never acceptable. It's fine to respectfully disagree, or to simply state that you don't share their beliefs.
We have no right to insult anyone. Just respect others and try to explain the reason to believe in GOD. I am AlhamduLillah "Muslim" and I can only try to show the right path and then it is up to you to follow me or not.
It is wrong to mock anyone for believing or not believing in God
Why care so much what other people think or believe…
It's definitely the wrong thing to do everyone has the right to there own opinion.
Yes I believe it's not only wrong but it's no ones business
You mean " not beliving" as you cannot insult someone for beliving as you do.
Insulting someone for their non-belief accomplishes what? NOTHING. Not a thing, except making you sound like an asshole.
Is it wrong to insult someone because of the way they look? You have some experience on this topic?
then you shouldn't be offended when I say that it's never wrong to say that Christianity is a cult
can't curse something that doesn't exist..
I don't trash talk about religious people, I call out bullies and hypocrites regardless of their religion. The sad truth is that in this case is that the two aren't mutually exclusive.
No because the girl claimed to be a Christian yet definitely wasn’t exhibiting Christ like behavior…
But you defended her mother in law even when she was forcing her beliefs onto her.
How can an open minded person defended someone who forces their beliefs onto others and mocks others' beliefs.
So it is only bad when a believer does.
You defend people who share your own beliefs even when they are absolute assholes.
That’s ironic coming from you don’t you think…
Don't change the topic.
you defended her mother in law even when she was forcing her beliefs onto her.
How can an open minded person defended someone who forces their beliefs onto others and mocks others' beliefs.
So it is only bad when a believer does.
You defend people who share your own beliefs even when they are absolute assholes.
To you the atheist starting a conversation about God in order to force her belief onto that girl and insult her beliefs is absolutely fine.
I’m not an atheist… so you don’t really have a point
But you DEFENDED that atheist.
Yet you still can't deny that you did defend her.
I don't care about your personal belief about God nor do I care about that atheist's personal belief aboit God. What I condemn is how you 2 think it is okay to start a conversation about God in order to force atheist beliefs onto the religious person.
Read my question.
You obviously think it is only wrong to force your beliefs only if you are a believer but if you are a non believer then it is totally right to force your beliefs onto beliefers.
That girl told her story about how her mother in law started conversation about God just to insult her yet you told that girl that she shouldn't force her beliefs onto others.
Lol
It was the atheist doing that. You are partial that you are unable to understand that.
I didn’t defend either party, I can after the asker for essentially asking how to make her boyfriends mother look like an idiot…
And you are blinded by your moral superiority so much so that you don’t even follow the Bible of the faith you claim to believe…
And occasionally bully people because of what they look like..
None of the above, feel free to try and insult me, fuck if I care. I don't care about that fairy tale.
People should worry about their own beliefs and not insult others who think differently.
Insults never lead anywhere.
Wrong? ... I find it silly
Yes it is, you should always respect other people's opinions.
How about no insult on whatever anyone believe or not believe all together:)!
If they're a proselytising kind, a sobering insult could be in order. Otherwise, I don't care what someone I don't even know believes in.
I mean I don't care about god since I’m an atheist but I respect everyone and their beliefs but if someone disrespects me I’m going to be mad.
Yes. No need to go around insulting people for not believing but they are fools according to God's word. Atheists are dummies.
No but it does show a little lack of respect for them. Live and let live
Believing or not believing in God is personal matter.
it's wrong both ways. let people love their lives with whatever faith they want. or no faith at all.
like how? You call someone stupid for not believing?
Mocking is wrong.
But it is hard not to mock an adult who genuinely believes in magic.
It is wrong to insult people.
Calling out sins won't bring you closer to God.
I agree on that! :)
should allow insults
Yeah.
Yes, of course it's wrong
You must still respect someone no matter what.
yes we should insult adult atheist they are stupid
yes we should look at how dumb these atheist are
they don't even realize they are going inside the snake when they die they are stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH1uylyEnLU
Yeah because neither side really knows
It is wrong
I voted A
That's totally wrong
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