I have a huge respect for Jesus Christ,
whether he existed or not, he changed the course of history and gave the origin to the biggest and the most powerful religion in the world.
So, he must have been a man worth following.
Even Islam originated from Christianity.
I also like Buddha.
You're confused.
It was Moses - not Abraham - who founded the Judiac faith. Abraham founded the concept of monotheism and the prophetic line. Which is why the Abrahamic faiths are Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
It was Paul the apostle -not Jesus- who founded Christianity. Jesus and his family, were not Christians.
Baháʼí is a cult like scientology -not a religion- and banned in some countries.
Quick question for you.
Why do you think one of Abrahams faith is Islam?
Just curious
@t-8900 I too wouldn’t say Islam is an Abrahamic religion. It may worship a Almighty GOD but it’s completely it’s own deviating from Judaism and Christianity.
@Unfortunateguy27 but that's not what identifies it as Abrahamic. It's foundations start at Abraham. It's a corrupted version of it. But 1) it's a religion and 2) It does take teachings from the Old Testament. therefore it is Abrahamic in nature in the same way lucifer is Angelic in nature, even if he fell and became something hideously unrecognizable.
@t-8900 The only thing Islam shares with The Torah and The Bible is it’s belief in a singular God. That is all, everything else is a deviation from Gods word. Mohammad’s own lineage is made up just to fit into the Biblical line. Only Judaism and Christianity are true for they are the beginning and the end of the Story of Jesus OUR LORD and SAVIOR. Nobody knows who muslims truly worship as their Singular God can be any deity. There is only one True God and all people should and will come to HIM. ELOHIM THE MOST HIGH
@Unfortunateguy27 I never said Islam was true though. It's not. But it's still got it's foundations from Judaism to some degree. its where it all starts for their book. Let me make this clear, I do not like Islam or it's teachings and I am a Christian. But this shouldn't even bother you. It means nothing in the end.
@t-8900 It all starts there with the Quran because they had to justify their religion and therefore grounded it to Judaism and Christianity which is the completion of Judaism prophecy. They don’t accept Jesus as LORD and that he was solely a prophet who didn’t die for our sins just simply ascended into The Kingdom of God. They proclaim that Mohammad is the one that came and their goal is to have Islam be the last and only remaining religion.
@Unfortunateguy27 okay but Jews don't as LORD either so not sure how that'd be relevant. You're also not right on the second part. They acknowledge Jesus Christ but only as a prophet, like Mohammad but that Mohammad was the most important. They also never claimed Mohammad was the son of God.
@t-8900 Jews don’t have to that’s their fault, Jesus is LORD he is a Jew. And he calls to those that believe in HIM
There is only one saving religion and is In and Through Christ Jesus. Christianity is the means to “knowing of God, personally”. All others, including Atheism, Humanistic Secularism, Moral Relativism are False Teachers and will land all their followers in a burning hell eternally separated from the God they seek.
Sorry I don't trust a god who slaughters innocents children
@Subarugirl I’m sorry as I do not understand what you are referencing besides Pro-Abortionist, Muslims and Jihad, and global Communists.
Maybe read the bible, its drenched in the blood if infants and young children..
@Subarugirl give me an example please. I didn’t make that statement or claim. 🤷🏻♂️ Where❓
Numbers 5:11-31
Honestly though start with Genesis, the flood, the felmale children being taken as spoils of war, the genocide of entire civilians, down to the smallest children..
@Subarugirl
Seriously though, I’m awaiting you to support your Claim. This is not difficult. Certainly, you are not pontificating things that you can not demonstrate as accurate.
-At least provide the Sources…
Numbers 5:11-31
Hosea 13:16
1 Samuel 15:3
Isaiah 13:16
I’m not sure how you got child killing from Num 5:11-31. Children of Israel is YHWH’s first-born or Nation of Israel. Within their contract is “if you obey you will be Blessed and if you disobey, you will be Cursed.” -This Covenant Promise oversees everything in the Old Testament and has yet to be fully fulfilled.
The same applies to all God’s image bearers so if they obey they will be Blessed and disobey brings Curse. This is determined in God’s Time and NOT man’s time.
-Contextually, this passage speaks to Adultery or spousal cheating. The whole section examples Numbers 32:23 which says “But if you will not do so, behold, you have sinned against the LORD, and be sure your sin will find you out.” The Sin here is Adultery and the test that is given is a Jewish liquid concoction which bloats a stomach as a sign of adultery. That’s all and there’s no reference to death of woman or husband. I’ll get to others tomorrow AM.
It’s an abortion ritual for women suspected of infidelity, not proven, just suspected
You want the Bible to fit your political viewpoint/worldview and/or your personal paradigm. You are reading into it WHAT you think/WANT the Bible to say.
That’s ludicrous, silly, and a fiction of your Mind and whomever else’s mind you are reading. It is what it is…”gas”- a bloating stomach as sign of Guilt. A child…3rd grader understands it for what it is because they too have had gas and diarrhea when they have too many treats (adulterous sex). The Bible in its exampling is written for children to comprehend.
Hosea13:16-Again Contract for created image bearers IS “Obey and be Blessed/Disobey be Cursed.”-without this knowledge none of the Bible makes sense.
-Samaria is a place where 1of 10 Tribes of Israel, who were judged and exiled due to disobedience (cursed), resided. They had broken covenant and rebelled against God worshipping other gods as America has. The Assyrians (China) were raised up to judge Israel for disobedience in the form of righteous war.
-Given:one has knowledge of contractual terms, free will, and choice to obey or disobey THEN when violated there is Judgment Wrath. This tribe of Israel is in the Courtroom and sentenced is being carried out as in Contract.
No one likes it but the Israelis chose their sin and were given over to it. From their soldiers and to their children the Nation was judged. —Much like America and Abortion as both America’s women and men chooses Self and disobedience over 10 Commandments, obedience, and Blessings. So, Americans willingly choose to massacre their kids.-Who needs Hitler when one is lover of Self as were the Samarians in this passage.
-Let’s do Science as law of physics says, “for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction.” This is what is happening here but at an interpersonal relationship between God and created. God’s longsuffering nature had expired and the Judge, upon man’s chosen evidences, ruled and sentence was administered.
—America too is under judgment 9/11 and God is using both the Muslim world and China to exact judgment upon America/Europe as a whole.
1 Samuel 15:3-Again created,”Obey and be Blessed;Disobey and be Cursed”. The Secularized population worshipping other gods, idols, and self had willingly chosen to violate contractual terms.-This group was such a terrible lot that their heritage and line ended there as they were before the Judge, while He was doing an evidentiary review, and Wrath was administered. For Nothing is new under the Sun (Solomon referencing life on earth). It is not God. It is fallen and Depraved man, who is given keys to palace, that chooses to be god, judge, and Cursed rather than submitting to the key Giver and ultimate ruling Creator, God. Man chooses not the Good before him. In that determine at its crux a Choice is made. To choose Evil and choose Not God has consequences. We are not determined robots and we have a shared responsibility for our choices.
Isaiah13:16-“Obey Me and be Blessed;Disobey Me and be Cursed.” Again, Israel was under Judgment for Disobedience and Contractual violation.-Depraved and Fallen man (Genesis) as nothing is new under the sun (Solomon) but there is Messiah sent forth to cover created sin before a Holy, God (Genesis 3:15). It’s horrible what man brings upon himself unnecessarily. And, these judgments are upon “God’s first loved and first born (Bible).” Righteous, Longsuffering, Holy, Mercy-giving, Sovereign, and Creator, God.
—At ANYTIME, theNation of Israel can Repent, Reconcile under Contract with God, and be Restored relationally. See NINEVEH in Jonah 3:6-10 where most wicked Nation repents (America/China) and Judgment is removed.
The meaning of the physical effects of the curse (“your abdomen swell and your thigh rot”) is debated by scholars. The Hebrew word beten (“abdomen”) means “womb” in every one of its other ten occurrences in the Torah. The term “thigh” may be a euphemism for the procreative organs (Gen 24:2, 9). Since v 28 says the innocent wife will be able to bear children we should understand the punishment to involve the reverse. The guilty wife will not be able to beget children... that includes any child she is currently carrying
Your biggest issue is not understanding the Bible as much as submission to an Absolute Truth. And, you will seek anyone that feeds your rebellion.
—A broad knowledge of the Bible as well as an orthodox rabbi would benefit both you and your scholars. As you both are purposefully try to find something that supports your rebellion against God.
—You know that the BIBLE confirms itself. So the load of anti-abortion scripture: Genesis9:6; Jeremiah1:5;Mk10:10;Mt15:19;Mt19:18;Luke (18:20;Romans1:28;13:9;John8:44, Acts3:14. TO START. You and your scholars have NO GROUNDS to contend that God aborts children. How much clearer can it be than Exodus 21:22-23 states,”If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury (to child), he shall. surely be fined….. BUT “if there is any further injury (to child), then you shall appoint AS A PENALTY, LIFE FOR LIFE.” —The Mosaic Law viewed unborn as persons worthy of the same protection and rights as an Adult.
—You’re simply raising your fist at God and are at enmity with Him, therefore, you are cursed. The scales over your eyes, like Pharaoh in exchanges with Moses during plagues, are firmly imbedded. You, like Pharaoh, have been given over to your freely chosen Sin.
-Seek God, repent, and Lord’s Prayer would be a great place for both you and your scholars to start.
That is a good chapter and clearly lays out that the punishment for killing an unborn is different than killing an adult. A premature birth would have been a death sentence in ancient times, and still often is today. Any historian could tell you as such.
I don’t believe in your god. Not would I serve a go who was proven to exist who slaughter the innocent. Or have you forgotten the flood
Dude ignore her she’s literally lost and if she chooses to Follow Jesus one day whether it be a personal choice or a last second request as she’s fighting for her life she will find him.
I always believed in the LORD GOD and in 2020 he came to me and spoke into my subconscious Son of David followed by exalted days later, note I never owned nor read the Bible, just believed, prayed and repented.
I’ve had dozens of ‘prophetic’ dreams since that actually do become reality whether directly into my life or that of another’s in the world. The dreams are symbolic and tell the events in such a way.
She believes in weak small Gods like Baal
@Unfortunateguy27 if you were a true believer you would act as Christ did, as you have been called to. Your behavior and the way your treat people are anything but Christ like…
@Subarugirl IF you are indeed a Believer and acts as Christ does then you should know the Gospel well.. WITHOUT A DOUBT very well. Give me the Gospel please, Subarugirl
@Subarugirl I treat people quite well actually it’s the world and people like who made me like this. Distant and cold
Give me the Gospel. You have nothing to do with the living God. You are simply a False Teacher who is at enmity with God. Jesus is about Wrath too. And you are cursed at enmity with God, and hell bound. unless you accept Jesus as Savior and Lord. But, you can not give me the Gospel so clearly you are Dead in your Sins.
@Unfortunateguy27 oh so you’re blaming someone else for your actions
The gospel is John 3:16, Jesus died (or more accurately was murdered) so that you would have a chance at “heaven” but Jesus whole message was to love others. It wasn’t about the letter of the law it was about the heart of it. He said that of you have hat in your heart you have already murdered, if you list after someone you’ve already committed adultery. That no one person is better than another and that it not your place to judge. You’re not Christ like, you’re more like the one who killed him, and you should be ashamed to call yourself Christian.
John 3:16 is ONE part. There’s Holy, Righteous, Judgment, Sovereignty, Wrath, Grace, Mercy. Give me Gospel as if I was lost.
This, Gospel Sharing in Great Commission, if you are in Christ Jesus is one of your greatest Biblical demands…. for those who know Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior.
—There is no other example of sharing LOVE than when Jesus says to his disciples ,”Matthew 28:16-20”.
—And v18-20 saying,”And Jesus came and said unto them,’All authority in heaven and in earth and has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
—JASHER is not part of His teaching and to include it in any discussion related to the Bible when it is clearly in opposition to the WORD, Himself is to be a cursed False Teacher at enmity with a Holy, Righteous, Long-suffering, Loving, and Judging Creator, God.
And how do you know god? Has he spoken to you?
I know God from submitting to His leadership, living In and Through Christ Jesus, and Walking In the Spirit.
I “know of” God from knowing all His Attributes both in Blessing and Cursing.-the totality of God.
—I know God from the Buddhists that have come to “know of God” that I walk with.
—I know what the power of scripture, from a submitted vassal unto his Lord Jesus, can do.-in the case of 1Samuel Witch of Endor dynamic.
—I know of God from the once Islam followers that I walk with.
—I know of God from “Christian Wiccans” , original out of Catholicism, learning that Savior is Lord/Ruler…and then finding that movement they tasted was meniscal when fully Walking In the Spirit through submission to Christ Jesus as Lord/Ruler and Savior.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Who are these people?
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Sheesh at least post the picture of what they was really supposed to look like now 😭😭😭
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bean2k21, founder of the Church of America. If you believe the founding fathers of America were dieties, then you may have heard of it.
Depends. People forget that the abrahamic religions are basically saying the same thing and horrible people with agendas wage holy wars on each other. I thought the Wesley Brothers (Methodist denomination) were good people.
Such a funny post. What do these pictures have to do with founders?
If you dive deep enough you'll find value in any religion.
As you see the pictures have hidden symbolism.
some i do, some i don't most were litteral cult leaders. some were attributed with creating a religion, even tho that wasn't their intention.
Actually, the 1st 2 have the same founder. There are only 2 founders, God and Satan. This question is flawed.
Abraham is mythical. Jesus may be mythical. Muhammad, Zoroaster, and Buddha are not. Do I like them? I don't much think about them.
Yes, religions have kept women in check, to prevent them from degenerating society.
To bad it didn't do the same with men, and my in check I think that you mean oppress kiddo.
@Subarugirl Men damn near built everything in this world for you women to enjoy. Even your Victorias Secret underwear. So keep going down the path you’re headed. I warned you years back about you Democrats and those that align with their ideals, you guys worship Satan and his agenda.
Life is a test between good and evil, those are the spirits at play and our bodies are the vessels in this world to carry out their actions. I don’t blame you for who are as GOD has said, I knew you before you were.
@Unfortunateguy27 and what have you done specifically that benefits society? Hmm?
@Subarugirl Who knows, maybe my time is yet to come. I’ve been suppressed by my peers through bullying all my life so it has been difficult to find work, keep work and climb in promotion.
@Unfortunateguy27 oh so let me get this straight, your lack of ambition and success is everyone else’s fault but yours…. That’s what’s wrong with people these days, blaming everyone one around them instead of taking accountability.
Doubtful any of them are like the marketed versions we read about today.
Yeah it's an interesting history before we were all born.
I can't say, I haven't met the guy but I am happy they exist, it's interesting!
I like Jesus better than the pedophile and the guy who offered his son as a human sacrifice. The others I don't know.
Jesus was the one testing Abrahams faith
@Unfortunateguy27 No, Jesus hadn't been born. Are you a Roman Catholic?
Yes, I am Roman Catholic
Jesus Trump. MAGA Cult Religion.
I don't know I never met any
Where's Xenu at? How DARE you? 😂
No idea, never met them.
No. They're all just cult leaders.
Yeah...
So they name the religions after themselves?
Why is Christianity in there?
@Snsl153 it’s not a religion
@Snsl153 I don’t remember there being any rituals here
no,.
abraham my G
you mean the fallen angels not really
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