Demon Non-Believers, would you be able to refute this?

[Curiosity2006]

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I had expected more competition to be sincere.

[FunkyMonkee]

That's called, a ghost! My ex-sister has them at her house 2 miles from here. Her t. v. turns on blasting loud while everybody's in bed, one girl saw her dead grandfather in the living room mirror, my nephew saw a woman in the kitchen who shoved him clear across the room, grandma's rosary beads were on a nail on the door and were found on the floor two days in a row... across the room! A man walked across the second floor and then vanished and the fire alarms went off about 3 a. m. and, when they went to shut them off, they discovered none of them even had any batteries.

[Curiosity2006]

To be sincere, I believe that to be a Demon "Djinn". What your family members encountered could be either the Qareen (type of djinn) of the deceased one (s) or a Djinn shape-shifting into another form. They do that, especially what you said about the mirror, it all adds up. It's kinda a preference for them to appear in mirrors, or Pitch Black silhouettes.

[Hiroshi-Kun]

Yeah no big deal. There are plenty of ghosts and dark energies around us all the time. Just mind your own business and let them be.

[Curiosity2006]

That's bravery plain & simple!

[genericname85]

refute what exactly?

[Curiosity2006]

The demonic activity.

[genericname85]

How do you reach the conclusion that's it's demonic?

[Curiosity2006]

So is it angelic then?
Demons do what was shown in ⬆️ this video. They wreak havoc just like that. You need to believe in god to know that. It's apparent in real life, and captured in many videos.

[genericname85]

by which mechanisms do demons do these things?

[Curiosity2006]

Demons have physical bodies just like us, they don't go through walls and locked doors. They have multiple forms of existing around. 1 is being invisible, but make no mistakes they're there you just can't see them with the naked eye. And had they stood right next to you at any given day, you'd be able to harm them, and them harming you back. 2 is manifesting as pitch black silhouettes. And 3 is manifesting into a more material-like mostly distorted human/animal.
For more on this, please check my chat with user 'OfDeath' on this page.

[genericname85]

can you show any of the claims you just made to be true?

[Curiosity2006]

Sure, we can do it either here or in private. I have tons of videos depicting the 3 physical forms. For the black silhouettes, you can check my chat with OfDeath on this page. Once you're finished, I can send you more of that manifestation form or we could skip to the other 2.

[genericname85]

i can show you a bunch of videos of stuff that isn't actually real as well.

[Curiosity2006]

Watch & you be the judge.

[genericname85]

there's videos of ufos and ailens on the internet. do you believe in them too? or unicorns and all sorts of shit that isn't actually real.

[Curiosity2006]

Watch and You be the Judge.

[genericname85]

i did watch it and i call it fake. so i am able to refute it quite easily as you see ;)

[Curiosity2006]

Now proceed to the next 12.

[genericname85]

no i won't, cause i don't see the point in watching more fake video bullshit.

[Curiosity2006]

Checkmate. XDDD
Sorry had to! joking.

[genericname85]

xD lol

[OfDeath]

Clearly staged.

[Curiosity2006]

I hope you're joking.

[OfDeath]

No I'm not. The bottom of the door can't be seen. An object is clearly moved behind the couch where someone is hiding. All objects are moved in the direction of the couches which tells me fishing line or similar was used. The entire setup of the room is not believable. A stuffed toy precariously sitting on the top of a couch? 2 different angled "CCTV" cameras for one small room? Opportunity to do takes to the different cameras? Hello?

Anyone who can't see this is staged has serious gullibility issues.

Ask yourself what is more likely: that they staged this or that there was actually a spooky ghost?

Come on.

[Curiosity2006]

That's not a ghost. Ironically, I don't believe in ghosts. That's a Demon. Believers would deem this an actual encounter, whereas non-believers would call it staged. It's subjective really.
Have you checked their horror? Why would they stage that? See that dark figure behind the couch? That was the entity disrupting around the room. Demons appear as pitch black silhouettes when they choose to manifest often. I've seen it everywhere, in the forests, in houses, warehouses, on streets, cemeteries and so. Take a look at this clip for instance (60 sec.) The same dark shadowy figure appears in lots of videos worldwide.
www.youtube.com/.../UgkxLPKiFI2MIAKQcMd2KAJ394_14qx0Gbe8

[OfDeath]

I'm quite amused that you think it's real. Obviously staged. Not subjective at all.

[Curiosity2006]

I can literally litter this whole page with videos of that same dark shadowy figure nature, they'll compel you but I won't do it if you're gonna deny it after all. If you're willing to genuinely open up your heart for more evidence, then just notify me here and I'll proceed to it.

[OfDeath]

Have you ever heard of video editing? If you can show me the one you are absolutely certain is real, I will scrutinize with as open a mind as possible. But not so open that my brain falls out.

But if it is as blatantly mood setting and staged as this one, of course I will just laugh at it.

[Curiosity2006]

Very well. It's gonna take me a while to gather some of those apparition videos. In the mean time, I need your take on one that I've posted quite a lot now.
www.youtube.com/.../UgkxhnptzHZeLfEnyEuZBaQ-AD0HeEWSB4el

[OfDeath]

Lol seriously? Come on, this is a video with creepy music added on and a kid saying he has to take his brother to the bathroom "over there". And then the shodowy figure actually looks like a chicken.

This is laughable. Clearly either staged or there was actually a chicken there and the light used cast the shadow behind the chicken.

Both explanations far more likely than that being a spooky ghost.

Come on. You're not really thinking about this very much are you.

[Curiosity2006]

I'm in the middle of compiling up the video clips I promised as we speak.
I didn't get your take on the second clip by the way, but no need given that you've checked it out.

[OfDeath]

The second one is also a clear hoax. The video starts with some stuff moving so you can't say it was moving on its own. there's also clearly soneone hiding behind a door. Then another thing starts to move off camera and then the guy throws himself on the ground and pretends to be dragged on the floor. Obviously staged. Amateur hour bush league psyche out stuff. Laughable.

[Curiosity2006]

You think that's a guy pretending to be dragged? I'm speechless! Genuinely!! That 'someone' hiding is the demon causing those activities. That metal ball on the floor weighs a Ton, and nobody 'apparent' was there to move it. It wasn't off camera, it was recorded in plain sight.
Though never mind that, I'll re-post shortly.

[OfDeath]

He is obviously pretending. I can do exactly what he did. The ball is a sphere, the floor is flat it is very easy to make that move with vibrations on the floor or some hidden fishing line or something. Or VIDEO EDITING.

This is a clear hoax video. How can you not see that?

Again, ask what is more likely? Any of the above mentioned, you also need to account for the sort of trickery magicians use which can trick you into seeing illusions, those things? OR A SPOOKY GHOST?

Don't think so. Clearly fake.

[Curiosity2006]

It is not a Ghost, it's a Demon. 'Djinn' to be exact. Here's something you should know beforehand,
Everyone from around the globe reported witnessing them as Pitch Black Hooded Figures, they don't reflect light. Had one of them stood under a flashlight you'd literally see nothing but a black hooded silhouette. I'll show you, if you want. Bear in mind though that they can manifest into other material-like forms that do reflect light. Animals are a type of it, And even human beings But also bear in mind that the apparitions they manifest themselves into are all mostly deformed.
Here's some of them. Just skip through them quickly, it's not a tall order. Should you wish for any more just let me know. :

[Curiosity2006]

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youtube.com/.../UgkxsU3rqZB62U9eWhGPNrAd8OowO71K-zz4
youtube.com/.../UgkxLvsR5A5lzH7499hVV8t3ECd2VPXLVJw3
youtube.com/.../Ugkx2i8Ce388QtirgNzOUIi8ABKlkqqt9mR4
youtube.com/.../UgkxjMTCn0R6vFdmtB_VrPy6yHCypw5mPDfe
youtube.com/.../UgkxOTj8nv1W6W4m7_v0EqWe0c_d6JpQicat
youtube.com/.../UgkxbvOn8bZLUcMtCnq4m2m4j5qLBrILBS5F
youtube.com/.../UgkxIbsCsDwUQyxwTVUZ-CcxvJkTrZBFp0bN
youtube.com/.../UgkxyDqvETQQ6q8V0Naj34bSgQLssHtkVTZZ
youtube.com/.../Ugkx2MVD5AwoQDZj1ApwlB1Tun8M0dnOnROg

[Curiosity2006]

youtube.com/.../Ugkx3_rK1PJtqJhVS0_rIkbUgqEGpkO44dJO
youtube.com/.../UgkxXjAOuAe13slUocB83MxnNFjCvLL61nJB
youtube.com/.../Ugkx9hI37P1q12IPPAY4WmMFeXaKt4TEnGh2

[OfDeath]

All clearly fake.

[Curiosity2006]

You're funny

Like you clicked on any of them

[OfDeath]

Don't have to after the quality of the ones you thought were most convincing. Youtube is full of these fake "ghost" videos. Or demons or whatever you think they are. May as well be sentient farts for what it is worth.

There are also plenty of videos debunking them showing how certain effects can be achieved.

[Curiosity2006]

You be the judge. I just sent you few videos of demonic apparitions, all you have for defense is 'it fake. clearly fake' not even watching them and giving impossible explanations. I defeated you, don't you think?

[OfDeath]

No I don't think you did at all. You posted a bunch of videos you claim to be demons and yet multiple more likely explanations can be thought of at the drop of a hat. You have no clear or reliable evidence of demons whatsoever. And it is because demons don't exist. They are fictional entities held only in human imagination. You can show me anything and say "it's because of a demon" and yet you cannot rule out the multitude of more likely explanations. So you are irrationally jumping to the most absurd conclusion. Anyone can see that and as I have already pointed out, there is a wide selection of videos on YouTube with experts in VFX telling exactly how things such as light orbs, shadowy figures, object manipulation is done. Therein lies very much more likely explanations than spooky ghosts.

You have not shown me anything even mildly convincing. So no, you have absolutely not "defeated" me. And you haven't defeated anyone else either.

[Anonymous]

Call a priest