Have you ever had a fight because of religious belief?

[Anonymous]

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I’ve started more than a few over it lol


It was back when I was in my aggressive part of the deconstruction phase as I left the church as a teenager. My grandmother is a staunch evangelist type, thinks gays are going to hell kind of woman. I’ve challenged her multiple times on those beliefs and how contradicting they are. It always just ends in us both being mad and disgruntled that we couldn’t convince the other person to agree with us or say their views were wrong lol

[Asker]

Do you have faith? I don't understand that.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I was raised in the church and left when I was a teenager. I no longer have faith in the institution provided by Christians, and their god less so.

[Asker]

Very good

[Asker]

What do you do on Sundays?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I work for the post office delivering packages

[behnam1999]

What made you turn against the Christian beliefs?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

@behnam1999 My father was on the board of my church. He let us wander around the office after service so they could divide up the offering among other business. Seeing the massive pile of cash alongside how little my church was actively involved with any community outside of its own broke the illusion that they held christ’s teachings. I also don’t like how they tried to make me sign a contract when I said I wanted to be baptized.

[behnam1999]

So, what does it have to do with the religion itself? People can claim to be religious in words, act but not according to their religion.

[behnam1999]

but not act*

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I left the church because I saw the hypocrisy in every church I witnessed. I left God when I realized that the highly debated structure of the religion was not something that fit with the ideas of universal kindness and love in its practices. I rejected dogma, which included that of christianity

[behnam1999]

You call it hypocricy yourself. That means talking good, but not acting good. People being immoral has nothing to do with religion. I refer you to what Communists did in Russia and Ukraine. By the same logic, people must convert to Christianity after watching what the atheistic Communists did. Search "Holodomor".

[behnam1999]

However, I'm not a Christian, but I'm religious.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Okay, I’m glad you found something that works for you

[Anonymous]

I am Muslim. Many people fight with me. Insulting my faith. If They want to learn about my faith then they could ask and I would reply to them. Even they don't like the answers they start to criticize it. No healthy discussion. I do know about a lot of christianity more than most Christians do. I have a bible too.

But most Christians aren't knowledgeable about my faith. I respect all religions but only ignore people approach me.

[Asker]

How well do you know the Quran? Do you speak Arabic? Also, what is your race?

[Opinion Owner]

I speak 5 languages and Arabic is one of them. I am a scholar, but I have decent knowledge of my faith.

[Asker]

Do you read the Quran in Arabic? And do you accept all the hadiths?

[Asker]

Also, what is the name of the Bible you have?

[Opinion Owner]

I have king James ver. I got it back 2022.

[Asker]

I'm using Bened, the nice King James version, I'm reading it online, I'll buy it soon.

[Opinion Owner]

Muslims doesn't accept all hadith but we acknowledge them. There's a whole science behind this. There's what we call weak hadith either due to discontinuity in the chain of narrators or due to some criticism of a narrator.

[Asker]

Yes, but you have to accept all the hadiths, you have to accept the weak hadiths, especially the hadiths of Tabari and Bukhari. The hadiths of Tabari and Bukhari are reliable hadiths that are authentic from the first hand. Taberi is a very important historian of Islam. Without Taberi, you cannot learn the history of Islam, or rather, the religion of Islam will collapse.

[Opinion Owner]

Do. you have a Quran?

[Asker]

There was the Quran, I read it at the time. I need to know Arabic to read the Quran. I don't know Arabic, I only read tafsir and the topics are very complicated, it doesn't explain anything clearly. It tells about Moses, which is 2000 years old, but the places are unclear, so I read the old covenant Torah book. The Quran is already 90% taken from the Torah.

[Opinion Owner]

Islam will collapse? Had you forgotten about Quran?

[Asker]

The Quran doesn't tell anything either. It's a 600-page book, it constantly repeats its verses, if we take out the verses again and again, we're left with the life of Muhammad, Jesus and Moses, and there are also hadiths.

[Asker]

Tabari is the main history of the religion of Islam. If you ignore Tabari, the religion of Islam will collapse because all the writers took it from Tabari, it is the most reliable source.

[Opinion Owner]

What there's translate out there. Or do you need some links? Moses is a most mentioned prophet in Quran, Muhammad was mentioned 4 times. Quran talk about Moses, jesus, all prophets. You haven't read the Quran, still claiming Quran is taken from Torah. That doesn't make sense. Read it the holy Quran. We have one version of Quran in Arabic, but there's translations out there.

[Asker]

90% of the Quran is a quote from the Old Testament Torah book, what is it doing with Moses or Jesus? Jesus is not a prophet anyway, but God himself. In the Quran, the Old Testament Torah book is constantly explained and the topics are very fragmentary, places, time and place are not given much, so go and read the Old Testament Torah book. you need to read

[Opinion Owner]

- Tabari is the main history of the religion of Islam. If you ignore Tabari, the religion of Islam will collapse because all the writers took it from Tabari, it is the most reliable source.- omg you can't be serious right now. Lol. Okay. Whatever put you to sleep.

[Asker]

Jesus already said in the Bible that false messengers and false messiahs would be born, and Muhammad is one of them. I am a follower of Jesus.

[Asker]

Well, I don't know what is keeping you awake, but you are on the wrong track. Taberi is a very important resource, you can't throw it away.

[Opinion Owner]

We believe jesus is prophet of God. There's one God and he isn't a man. You don't have to agree with us muslims.

[Asker]

Jesus is not human either, you are already denying the divine feature of Jesus, your god is a stone in Mecca, her name is al-ilah, the god of the moon, Muhammad, continued idolatry.

[Opinion Owner]

Here's a conversation between jesus and God almighty in Quran. There's a link : https://youtu.be/8bnrhQn7dlk?si=Q4HxtIZ5moJN6IvQ

Brave enough to what they are talking about? In English of course.

[Asker]

Do you understand what I am saying, and do you know how many years there are between Jesus and Muhammad? The New Testament was made with Jesus. Jesus is the embodiment of God, the real God is Jesus. I am telling you that there are exactly 600 years between Jesus and Muhammad. After 600 years, a book called the Quran came and says that Jesus is a prophet. Which religion is the prophet? Jesus is the prophet of Islam. The religion of Islam. This book did not exist in the time of Jesus. It came to the Arabs. He had no contact with anyone other than the Arabs.

[Opinion Owner]

I will not respond anymore. I shared with our beliefs. Let be a educational experience. At least you learned one thing about Islamic faith. Hate Islam or don't give fuck about it. Your opinion. Peace.

[Asker]

I know the religion of Islam down to the smallest detail. Unfortunately, you believe in this religion without knowing it. Goodbye.

[Billlewis]

I have a lot of respect for Muslims and Islam. A lot of people have misconceptions about the religion and culture, but I'll say this -- it takes discipline to live the culture, and they live a clean lifestyle, no drugs or heavy drinking, etc.

[Opinion Owner]

@Billlewis thank you.

[Asker]

@Billlewis Unfortunately, my friend, you do not know this religion, this religion does not respect you, if you do not believe in the god of this religion, there is an order to kill you, anyway.

[Billlewis]

I'm not that far along; in fact, I'm a lifelong atheist and have no interest in religion whatsoever. But of the most commonly practiced faiths , at least the follwera of Islam have something to show for their faith, by leading a healthier lifestyle.

[Billlewis]

Yes, sir, I'm aware of that. I didn't know it was frowned upon to say something nice to someone.

[Opinion Owner]

@Billlewis the asker, is spreading hate. Yes. Islam is Most practiced faith in world. Christianity is dying ANYWAY sad reality indeed. The asker, hadn't read the Quran, he is ignorant of it. Still spreading nonsense without educating himself. He doesn't have a bible for god's sakes. He should spend his time on educating himself on christianity first & save his faith that's declining. Churches are empty.

Islam is the most practiced and fast growing religion. @billlewis you already know discipline Muslims are. Islam doesn't promote hate. I may advise you to inform yourself what Islam teach as way to educate yourself. Rather to take his random opinion besides on ignorance.

For the asker, jesus didn't claim divinity. You don't have even bible to being with. Preach us the beautiful world of christianity. Get educated.

[behnam1999]

Are you Shia or Sunni?

[Opinion Owner]

@behnam1999 I am Muslim. That's the answer.

[kellytheman]

No never really had a fight but I did if this one co worker said she was sorry that I dint completely believe in gif. I do believe in god but I also believe in science and evolution. It kinda bugged that she felt sorry for me for not having her beliefs.

[Asker]

What was your friend's belief?

[kellytheman]

She wasn’t really a friend just a co worker but she was very religious. She would listen to Christian music and sermons on the radio, she wore a cross, and read her Bible during lunch break. I think she was a. born again Christian or maybe catholic.

[Asker]

I am a former Catholic, now I am a non-denominational Christian and a devout Christian. I read the Bible and listen to prayers all the time. I listen to Judah Smith every Sunday. We have video chat prayers on Wednesdays. I join them every Wednesday. I read the Old Testament Torah and the New Testament Bible all the time.

[Lliam]

Verbal fights only. Only a few times.

One in-person fight was with some girl whose roots were Northern Irish. She was talking shit about the IRA and acting like the Orange supporters were victims. That's like Israelis acting like victims.

[Kaneki05]

Can't fight over what I don't have.
But even if I did believe in some god I would never as it would be pointless to argue about something based on faith and within time I would be proven wrong or right anyway.

[TommyMountainFigure]

No, but in fairness not many people start fights with me about anything.. Not in person anyway!

[Iron_Man]

Mostly online Arguments but not fistfights in person just discussions

[Asker]

What happened? Can you give an example, my friend?

[Iron_Man]

Arguing with. Hard core Muslims mostly

[Asker]

Never argue with Muslims, my friend, I was a very stressed person because because I discussed religion with Muslims, they believe without knowing it, especially Turks.

[Iron_Man]

They are pretty tough when arguing they get mad

[Asker]

Yes, they get angry a lot, that's why don't make friends with a Muslim, they believe in this religion without knowing it, that is, they have not even read the Quran, they constantly twist the verses of the Quran, they are all freshwater Muslims.

[Asker]

In order for a person to be a Muslim, he must come from the Arab race. Those who are not Arabs cannot become Muslims because the book of the Quran has come to the Arabs.

[Iron_Man]

It’s a fake religion. There’s only one God the Lord Jesus Christ. ✝️

[Asker]

Exactly my friend, only those who follow the path of Jesus Christ will reach the father and those who come after Jesus Christ are false messengers, false messiahs. Muhammad is a false messenger. ✝✝

[Iron_Man]

Yes sir

[Iron_Man]

if you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior and believe that he died on the cross to save you from your sins , thou shall not perish, but have everlasting life

[Danisa]

You can't fight over beliefs any more than you can fight over weather.

You actually just fight over your opinions and interpretions.

Hence why both sides get laughed at when they claim to be "fighting" over religion.

[Account]

A disagreement yes. Not a fight. He changed his views after years but whatever. Doesn't concern me

[Caroline91]

No. I believe the purpose of religion is to promote unity among us. So, to fight over religion is the antithesis of being a true believer.

[strateguy632]

sure! i try to be academic but most peopel stoop to name calling or shouting to "win" the argument so i ended the friendship.

[behnam1999]

I try not to get angry in a debate. Anger means defeat!! Try to talk to people as peacefully as you can. It's more effective that way.

[DrPepper12]

Yup! Many times. Im still right.

[LiamJHayden]

Debate / disagreement, yes. Actual fight? No, but then I'm not a psychopath nor will I engage with one.

[IslaTheWitch]

I'm not a believer, so no need for that :D

[dustybiker2]

I've had people try. I shut them down.

[Paris13]

All of MY "Strife,'lolxxoo

[handsomelad70]

No. Guess we Catholics don't fight often.

[Asker]

What are you doing to strengthen your relationship with God?

[OtterMan68]

because we know we have to bless those who curse us

[Asker]

@OtterMan68 How so, can you explain?

[OtterMan68]

Jesus says to bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you
It's pretty self-explanatory

[Asker]

@OtterMan68 Yes I know

[handsomelad70]

Eyeing buxom babes !!!

[MemeSupreme]

yeah when i was a teenager lol

[NathanDavis]

nope

[Staximus]

No, religion is not that important

[Ladsin2]

Fight? No. Argument? Sure. Lots of them.

[Kingofkings1992]

No, I don’t give a shit about religion

[In_Trance]

Never

[Agape93]

Yeap

[Ryannnnnnnwithtwo-N]

A lot

[Dongie]

No..