Do you think women are becoming the new dominant sex?

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Increasingly, we can see a shift in the demographics in the west.

Women achieve 2 degrees for every 1 a male achieves.
Women are becoming independent and no longer rely on men at all and don't really need them whereas men need us.

Women are starting to obtain typical traditional male traits such as being independent like I said, intelligent, dominant (there are sooo many more dominant women out there now), rational, assertive when needed, ambitious and even aggressiveness, don't underestimate us.

Whereas male on the other hand and actually taking on some of the traditional female traits such as being dependent (like I said earlier), less ambitious (we can see this from data) and honestly really timid, a lot of guys are scared of approaching us or even to speak to us, they lack major confidence. Although this is true for both genders at times, I see girls/women with more confidence in this day and age on average. Even being home orientated is something we can see guys becoming more and more, there is a surge of househusbands/stay at home dads which are good to see.

It's basically a reversal of roles in my view and it's not something which is forcefully happening, it's something that has been happening for a few decades now, it's an amazing time to be alive for a female right now (in the west) but there is obviously a lot more work to be done.

So my question for you is, do you think women are becoming the dominant sex?

FýrdracaDócincel · Accepted Answer

AHAHAHAHAHA!! Yes!!! Saw this question on my phone earlier and I FINALLY found it now that I'm at a computer.
Let us discuss...
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1.) "Women achieve 2 degrees for every 1 a male achieves."
I don't think the difference is all that extreme. Sure women are more academically driven right now. However, I chalk things like that up to a societal advantage, which isn't a good indicator of dominance as it depends SO MUCH on HOW SOCIETY TREATS THE GENDER as opposed to the characteristics of the gender in question. I think if the societal pressure for women to succeed in school was absent, we would see a lot more variety.

2.) "Women are becoming independent and no longer rely on men at all and don't really need them whereas men need us."
We need you for what, exactly? A man can live on his own and be successful just fine without a woman there. I don't see where you get that from.

3.) "Women are starting to obtain typical traditional male traits such as being independent like I said {...} assertive when needed, ambitious and even aggressiveness, don't underestimate us"
This is true in a general sense. However, it seems to me like the women with that kind of mindset end up as some pack leader's sex toy faster than any other type of girl. Then they have a huge internal joust trying to figure out why they want to please him so badly etc etc. On another note, I have to say that this doesn't really phase me. Quite simply, my modus operandi is just to avoid all association with girls like that, and give the boot to girls who show signs of having that domineering mindset.

4.) "Whereas male on the other hand and actually taking on some of the traditional female traits such as being dependent (like I said earlier), less ambitious (we can see this {...} becoming more and more, there is a surge of househusbands/stay at home dads which are good to see."
This is also a bit true, yes. But also with your last point, just because other guys are like that doesn't mean I have to be... or ANY guy has to be, for that matter.

5.) "It's basically a reversal of roles in my view and it's not something which is forcefully happening, it's something that has been happening for a few decades now"
No. Most of it was forced by the rise of political correctness.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

No. The achievements and statistics of women still pale in comparison to that of males; the number of degrees in leading fields for instance is still held mostly by males even if the degree ratio on the whole isn't equivalent. That's like being proud that twice as many work than men when 75% of those women work retail and desk jobs and 75% of the males work real life changing roles.

Women "becoming" independent is also a falsehood; you could live as a single mother centuries ago and survive. It was definitely rarer but by no means some impossible feat where you had to be married or you would be doomed to squalor. Instead what happened is that financial independence became an expected norm even though it is still sought to be avoided; the very concept of a marriage with a wealthier male partner is still majorly appealing to women all around the world despite themselves being able to become high earners.

As for "don't underestimate us"; if you have to say it you are definitely going to get underestimated. Men don't say that. This isn't Naruto.

In essence women are still leagues behind what it takes to become the dominant role in politics, STEM, Ethics and Policy and a large number of actually impactful fields. No one should be too concerned that twice as many women are graduating with liberal art degrees in useless voodoo and bongo drums.

SarahsSummer · Accepted Answer

I agree with much of the advancements you've talked about regarding women but I dont see us as becoming the dominant sex. Its just been more of a push by some towards equality. I think its good. We are seeing more and more women CEO's which has brought on new ideas and rationals to the business world. Men and women will each continue to have their individual strengths but I hope that with a move towards equality both sexes can recognize they can each learn from one another.
Lastly,
I hope it was just poor grammar when you stated that intelligence is traditionally a male trait. Hopefully we all know that's not true.

contagiousinsanity · Accepted Answer

I think women are so used to working twice as hard as men that is just something that has continued therefore eventually the men fall behind and women rule the world!!! Lol I'm not sure we're the dominant sex but we're definitely getting there

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Absolutely not. Most of those degrees are useless (eg gender study, arts) . Its gonna take a very, very long time for women to become the 'dominant ' sex, and lets be honest that will probably never happen.

Ladyslipper · Accepted Answer

I'm starting to think we are superior in many ways yes

Levin · Answer

I agree with a lot of your analysis but not all your conclusions. It would be interesting to investigate why these changes are taking place. And I mean some sensible analysis, not some MGTOW bullshit. My own sense growing up was that male characteristics were always shamed in men. That was just my family dynamic, but I think a lot of it was societal too. Unfortunately, that also makes them impotent to live in the real world, and fulfill their desires.

Also, this reversal of gender dynamics presents women with some problems. If women, instinctively, seek a mate who is more realised than themselves externally, then just who are they going to find attractive? There's a reversal of sexual polarities (which arguably are vital for attraction), meaning, a worldly person needs an inward looking person in order to balance one another out. One heals the other, the other gets them out of their shell and comfort zone. They learn from one another. One tends towards being psychological, the other physical. Women certainly can't have their cake and eat it. You can't be very 'yang' yourself, and then seek out an even more 'yang' person. Well you can, but I suspect it won't be a very harmonious relationship. And it tends towards materialism anyway, if you judge someone's worth on what they have attained in the world. There are spiritual dimensions to existence, that people will ignore to their peril.

If we think in terms of 'divine male' and 'divine female', then no archetypal gender is better than the other. The problem with your way of thinking, and societal thinking in general, is that female characteristics are associated with negativity, ie passivity, being meek and not making an impact on the world. So now women are lauded for being men, and men lauded for being women, but neither party now find one another attractive =/ I'm not attracted towards women who are manly. Of course, it's important to cultivate one's independence, but one has to be aware of how one does it so one avoids the pitfalls and the extremes. It's a puzzling and unsustainable position.

The other issue is all of this nonsense can be a barrier to love and intimacy, people coming together, etc. You have two degrees, but so what? Who really thinks this bullshit matters? Of course, to some degree it does, not to put down other peoples' achievements. On the other hand, it's an extremely narrow and as I say, materialistic way of looking at the world.

Anonymous · Answer

"... it's not something which is forcefully happening..."

That's not true at all. There are enormous artificial advantages that have been put in place for women. Billions of dollars are spent every year to give women advantages in school and business.

If you have two perfectly equally qualified young adults looking for college scholarships and financial aid, one male and one female, the female one will have far more available to her simply because she is female.

If you're starting a new business or looking for funding for an existing one and you go to the SBA for for funding, it's ridiculous how much more money is available to women and how much easier it is for them to get it. Seriously, it's crazy.

In the US the public school system has been feminized to the point where boys are at a significant disadvantage from the very start.

Society coddles girls and women in so many ways, and does just the opposite for boys and men. It is part intentional and part subconscious based on the fact that we have been conditioned to believe female are weak and disadvantaged and need extra help to achieve success.

So to say it's "not something which is forcefully happening" is absurd. It's absolutely "forcefully happening". And yet we still see men earning far more than women, there are far more men in positions of leadership and power, and men still make the world go 'round in every sense. They always will because men are simply better suited to it, regardless of how hard society tries to artificially compensate for women's deficiencies when it comes to achieving and succeeding in positions of leadership and authority. Of course, even though we are all well aware of this, we don't say these hing out loud because it's not politically correct to say them. Again, that's part of the effort to artificially elevate women.

So yeah, enjoy those artificial advantages while they last, because the pendulum has stopped swinging in that direction and has already begin to swing back toward reality. It is indeed an amazing time to be alive for a females in the West. You have so many privileges men don't have, so enjoy them while they last. And you would be well advised to take full advantage of them, which is something you're not doing today. Not even close.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, as a guy working part time, who's in a relationship with a girlfriend with a better career I think so. But this isn't just about me, so lets review some trends that have already surfaced to some extent in todays society:

As you already mentioned, women are rapidly becoming the better educated gender which in turn yields better jobs and managerial positions for women.
In time, this will probably be reflected in everyday culture as well, as better jobs means more money and thus greater purchase power than that of men. This means that companies and business life in general will start catering and marketing to female rather than male buyers.

In time, this means that more products, services, entertainment and other services will be tailored to women specifically, considering the market is always responding to stakholders with the money. In my country it seems women are already making most purchase decisions, and there are some early signs that the market is responding in terms of entertainment targeted at women: Movies such as Magic Mike and the reboot of Ghostbusters represent proof that the market is positioning itself for the female point of view and the female gaze. One can often see similiar examples in product commercials that shows a male rather than a female model. Also, various femnist organisation have promoted the body positive movement for quite a while now, with increasing success in my opinion.

Crapulux · Answer

Well, it is being forcefully implemented since schools raise boys as girls nowadays. Universities have become cesspools of political correctness, which view masculinity as "toxic", so no wonder why men flee in droves...

> Women achieve 2 degrees for every 1 a male achieves.

Non-bullshit degrees (ie, STEM, medical, etc) that were traditionally male-dominated still are. Please don't count sociology and journalism as "degrees"... you're just being silly.

Now, we have several problems.

1) The thing to do if you want your civilization to succeed is to exploit its intellectual potential for technological innovation and profitability (i. e. using autists and nerds as a natural resource). Since most genius-level IQs are male, steering males out of these careers has a long-term result of slowing down innovation, and ultimately, being overtaken by China.

2) Due to feminism, smart women focus on their careers and no longer reproduce, therefore they will be selected out of the gene pool, further diminishing average intellectual potential.

3) Additionally, women are worthless as political leaders (case in point: Merkel).

Female-led civilizations will collapse and be taken over by the ones who still have balls (ie, Islam and China).

Anonymous · Answer

Well there is clearly a gender bias in both european and American education which disatvantages males and increases the drop out rates of males also. Female teachers give better scores to girls regardless if they do better than boys or not.

https://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/1281236
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Throw in the fact that there are more social programs for women than for men and you got your answer. The system advantages women but men are still expected to be independent. Women are no longer dependent on men, they are dependent on big papa government. Thats just trading one dependency for another.

If you would ever think that i will become dependent on a woman, a man or the government you are mistaken. Enjoy your female chauvimism as long as it lasts, it will be your downfall 😊

Kurodo · Answer

Kind of a rude update but... I think people are just using the opportunities given to them these days now there's lots more freedom of choice. You can choose to be a business woman or a stay at home dad and if those are your aspirations then its become easier for you to do it. Less judgment for being more feminine or masculine and being able to do what makes you happy. At least its much better than it was 20 or 30 years ago even

IHateLife · Answer

You really are a sexist and highly misinformed individual. This is shown by your "butthurt" comment. Education is designed specifically for women so of course they're ahead (which is weird since women claim to be oppressed yet have all the power). Women are better at sitting and retaining knowledge whilst men are more hands on and rambunctious. What do schools do? They drug the boys so they act more like the girls. Yay equality! You also get accepted into university because you're a woman. Speaking of "data", you are accepted into university because you're a woman. If a guy has a 4 GPA and an sat of 1400 whilst a girl has a 3.5 GPA and an sat of 1300 she gets accepted before he does simply because she has a vagina and can sue the school for discrimination if they reject her. Also speaking of "data", the wage gap and "rape culture" don't exist. Stop picking and choosing what "data" is and isn't valid just to fit your narrative.

SonOfReinhard98 · Answer

No, that is a feminist fantasy. Feminism was created by the "Global-Elites" as a tool to divide the genders. At it's core, it is an attack on the nuclear-family. Divide and conquer is the name of the game, the sheep are much easier to control when they are dis-united. Gloria Steinem, who is basically the mother of modern feminism, was an admitted CIA operative. This is a documented fact that anyone can look-up. The global-elites (who are all men btw) simply erect "female-figureheads" to appease the simple-minded masses. Female politicians (like all politicians) have no real power. And the fact that women have "moved-up" (as they see it) in the corporate-world is reflective of "affirmative-action" and similar policies. The truth is that women will NEVER be the dominant-gender. Evolution has designed them to be wives, mothers, and nurturers, not warriors or leaders.

tetris · Answer

they always were. women get everything easy than men, yes nowadays because women have more freedom and they mostly dont really desire the opposite gender as much as guys desire girls... girls tend to think guys are for personal gain such as money etc whereas guys desire girls for love and sex.

Anonymous · Answer

While the woman chooses a arts degree to get nowhere the man chooses engineering and gets paid moneyyy.
I think you need to realise that in nearly all species males are dominant and that is nature.
Nature never changes. Everything returns back to equilibrium. Trust me.
There's a reason why there's a backlash on feminism. Subconsciously a lot of women don't want to be more advanced. There's a push for tradition again.

Even if it was possible for women to exceed men. Women would no longer be attracted to men nearly as much just like men aren't attracted to dominant women. Laws will shift back in favour of men once society realises the west is fucking up. well soon have men programmes in nursing and stuff like that

AleDeEurope · Answer

No. Society favors women, but still men tend to have the higher jobs. A gender studies major isn't really gonna give you any "power" in the real world. When women start getting into STEM jobs and becoming CEOs we could argue this, but as of today, obviously, no.

I'm all for women getting on the same level as men when it comes to jobs, but like I said, you can't compare a gender studies major which only is worth to clean tables, with a STEM major... two different worlds.

trentlee1244 · Answer

I believe right now there is no outright dominant sex as both sexes have currently the exact same opportunities and liberties now and we have never had as much equality as we do now in our history ever.

But also right now we have to be careful that pendulum doesn't swing all the way over to woman becoming the dominant outright sex with all silly things the man hating femnazis are up to. Right now if you are a white male it almost feels open season.

herminipper · Answer

It's not a reversal like you think. For that to happen, men and women would have to have the same strength and intelligence. It IS forced and we're already beginning to see the repercussions of it, such as an extremely low level of happiness for women.

Unit1 · Answer

Somehow I do not see this becoming a trend but this is because I am in the third world countries.
I'd like relocating to the west and see it for myself and stay there while I am at it. It seems, that some women are really progressing.

BigBallerSodaPop · Answer

We live in a world that was set up by men. Don't forget who builds your houses, fixes your cars, and protects your borders. We gave women equality out of kindness and they took our balls from us. Having a college degree does not make one smart. No, the precious little princesses are not equal to the men who create and protect society.

JayCasper777 · Answer

women are dominating the men that can be dominated. yeah its all changing I feel sorry the men being fucked over lol :)
its all part of a plan tho. if a society is lead by women they can be controlled easily. so its what the dudes at the top want.

Anonymous · Answer

i agree with every single word you said, i actually shared this subject few weeks ago, but everyone, disagreed with me XD, i don't know why

vishna · Answer

No, I don't think so. The majority of the world is still male dominated and/or it's most advantageous to be male.

kickme · Answer

Yes, it's not accidental. All of the exclusive programs to get girls into college, leadership training groups and money pouring into girls only programs, what did you expect?

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