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As a Libertarian I think both of them have terrible ideas. So my vote is based off of their character.
I would never vote for either of them in an actual election but here’s my take I think Bernie Sanders is probably the most honest candidate we have in America this includes Donald Trump I will end up voting for Trump because quite frankly I don’t want socialism and you can explain to me how it’s not socialism because in my mind it’s either socialism or communism so I’m being polite.
either way I will defend Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is a lying cow who has been lying to get ahead in her career for her entire career and quite frankly I feel bad for Bernie Sanders what the left did to him on CNN during the debates I’m still not gonna vote for the guy but congratulations CNN you made me feel bad for Bernie Sanders this just shows how much CNN sucks. I will defend people when I think they are in the right
It doesn't really matter, neither is a credible threat to Trump in 2020.
If any of the Democratic candidates had a snowball's chance in Hell, they wouldn't be trying so hard to impeach him without even making a charge against him. They're just playing, "Who's on first?"
"Trump's guilty!"
"Of what?"
"His many crimes!"
"What crimes?"
"The illegal kind!"
"What law has he broken?"
"The law against being guilty!"
"Guilty of what?"
"The crimes he's committed!"
"What crimes has he committed?"
"The ones he broke the law to commit!"
"What law did he break?"
"The kind only a criminal like him could break."
"Like what, for example?"
"Each of his crimes are an example of how guilty he is of breaking the law!
"But--"
"NO FURTHER QUESTIONS!"
Bernie seems like a great gent. The old photos that surfaced from his civil rights days just say a lot about who he is, to me. I want a woman in office, but I’m not going to just vote for someone because of that. I’d rather Bernie than Warren.
I can’t answer this until I see the outcome of their liar liar pants on fire moment
Realistically I think they know this, but the biggest advantage that modern liberals have is that they don't have to pretend to follow any moral guidelines, whereas Republicans do (as we are supposed to be the more traditional, moral party). The advantage of this is that you can have women who sleep their way to the top like Kamala Harris, or even people who kill hookers like Teddy Kennedy, and nobody will bat an eye.
Still, it's strange that they've sort of contorted the world to see themselves as those fighting for what's right, which can only come from strident neo-marxist teaching at the university level.
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there both terrible options and represent the radical left of American politics , and want to impose a far left agenda on the US from the top down
the election of either as president would almost guarantee a collapse in democratic support in the future elections as such a far left agenda is surely not going to go over smoothly in a place like the US , the mid terms in 2022 would be a bloodbath and possibly even worse democratic results than the mid terms which followed Clinton and Obama victories
Neither. But if I had to chose, I'd choose Sanders.
I (a Libertarian) may wholly disagree with Socialist Sen. Sanders, but at least I can trust that (like with Libertarian ex-Rep. Ron Paul) what he says is what he actually believes. His words & convictions match.
With Sen. Warren… her track-record for honesty & credibility are in serious question.
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I voted for that OG back in 2008 😂 i feel so old now
@Meatunnel69 lol Yeah! As soon as I became a U. S. citizen in 2010, I made him my 1st ever voted Presidential-candidate. I still have to mathematically-convince myself that it was a full decade ago.
(-‸ლ) Dangit, we are old.
And I listen to the Liberty Report on YouTube™ (sadly owned by Washington's pet Google, but it's not like Apple protects us iPhone-owners as well anymore after Jobs' death).
Sanders for sure. I would actually prefer Gabbard. The ideal ticket would be Sanders with Gabbard as VP.
Warren is a twit; a straight party Democrat. She'll do exactly what she is told by the party of neoliberalism and war. Aside from not being a raving psychopath, she's similar to Hillary.
Well , the say 40 % people made their
mind up from Iowa Caucasus but 45 %
said they could change their mind who
they vote for 13 % said not sure so will
have to see. Sanders got a strong voice
and he stands out the most and he is
powerful for his age. Warren not too
sure of her. If they get 15 % or more
they get delegates award to them so
will see who makes it.. Bernie does
tell it like it is so no one can take that
from him.
Firstly, I would not vote for either of them because they would both take the US down a very bad road. Socialism is a failure and a path to mediocrity no matter where it exists.
Having said that, I trust Sanders much more than I trust Warren. My impression of Sanders is that he is honest and, despite his misguided policies, his heart is in the right place and he truly wants what is best for the nation. Warren, on the other hand, just strikes me as another slimy, dishonest politician whose motives are not pure. She makes my skin crawl.
Let's see. You have a consistent and honest man with 40 years under his belt who always fought for what's right vs a consistent liar who backstabs her friends and can't stick to an ideology.
I'm gonna go with Bernie. If you don't, you're a fucking moron.
Both of them are not suitable for office. They are Democrats don't you people understand they will destroy america. Here is a fine example of democratic policies. Your 12 year old Daughter gets raped by an illegal and is found but is soon released because ICE wants to collect him. He's on the run living like any other illegal and goes on to commit more crimes. Look at cities run by democrats the shit holes they turned into.
If that's your thing Sanders is definitely your guy. His campaign is run by militant communists who want to burn cities to the ground. Bernie is just a sly old commie who keeps his mouth shut but the company he keeps shows who and what he is.
I am Republican and would hope not to have a Democrat as president until they control their radicals, but if forced to choose, I'd choose Sanders. Her plans are more realistic and least likely to face Republican resistance compared to Sanders.
Yang. Both are wackjobs. Warren's just a fake wackjob. She lies about her race to get through college, and she has the gall to call out Sanders. If you're getting your panties in a wad about being called a liar on national tv, maybe you should stop lying on national tv?
Neither. I'm a liberal, but both of them are too liberal for me.
The golddigging jew who married into a rich family vs white Pocahontas. Seems like a shitshow.
Voted warren so trump has a better chance, they are both bad but warren is worse.
highly debatable that ANYONE is worse than trump... the fool.
@Sabretooth I like trump on foreign issues (Even if its bad for me as a european) but dislike him on domestic issues. He is an average president. Warren is a compulsive liar and bernie a socialist so those rank way lower on my expectations.
Foreign policy? Like: abandoning allies? Locking kids in cages-allowing suffering of all types-including death? Trying to instigate wars? You like policies that are bad for you?-that makes zero sense.
@Sabretooth 1. The one time he caused turkey to invade by pulling back to early is regrettable but other than that i don't see him doing anything wrong. 2. Technically domestic policy but if you had a credible news source you would know those pics where from the obama era. 3. What war did he try and instigate? Because i know he so far has prevented full on war with Syria, North Korea and Iran.
I think your using unreliable news sources if thats your view of trump. Try independant media and comnentators (Literally commentators on YouTube) if you find sone good ones you get a much clearer world view.
first-that sloppy unauthorized move freed isis. 2nd: that... is no defense-wrong is wrong. 3rd: trump launched an unauthorized drone strike against soleimani with laughably poor Intel ( "Did it exactly say who, what, when, where? No," Milley continued. "But he was planning, coordinating, and synchronizing significant combat operations against U. S. military forces in the region and it was imminent."https://twitter. com/i/status/1216359717607481350) -prompting iran to fire missiles at 2 of our bases-and in spite the pentagon's assurance that no one was hurt-that has been proven to be a lie tonight-there's also talks about war with north Korea. 4th-actually, i do follow independent media, msnbc and cnn.
@Sabretooth msnbc and cnn are not independant journalists but media serving shareholder / advertiser interests and especially cnn often blatently lies. Such as the russian pawn stuff and the kids in cages lie. I am not saying obama did it so its alright if trump did that. I am saying that picture was literally confirmed to be during the obama era since its older than trumps predidency but i am glad we agree that obama puttimg kids in cages is wrong. But ofc the corporate media won't tell you that because those like i mentioned serve war mongering interests but also cheap labor interests. They create an artificial narrative and try to manipulate what you believe. You are literally more informed by not watching their propeganda.
So how about that time the war mongerers wanted to invade syria? Trump took out the involved building with a missile strike during the night to prevent bloodshed. War prevented. No idea why you think there is gonna be a war with north korea given so far Trump is the only president in modern times who understands the push and pull respect based Asian political culture. And that time when Iran took down a drone trump ordered away his attack. So no, he is working against the war machine, in case of the now invaded region with isis fighters loose maybe to a fault. But all the stuff they organize to envoke wars trump is acting against and i respect them for that.
I'd say try Tim Pool's channel out, he reads news articles including those from CNN and comments on them and talks from a left wing bias (Pro Tulsi and pro Yang). Contrast it with Styxhexenhammer who is pro trump (And very good on the korea stuff) and you will start to see why not to watch cnn.
https://youtu.be/Dx57Mx0uGJk
never said they were-but those ''lies'' well, those can be proven russia: twitter.com/.../1134066371510378501?s=21 trump taking the words of Putin over intelligence : www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uhKQE91lw....list goes on. kids in cages: www.youtube.com/watch?v=59lwppXzjvo&t=1s-among many other videos and such. again, it was a an unauthorized attack with no real evidence of briefing-just guesses. as for North Korea-negotiations are failing: www.theatlantic.com/.../ www.cbsnews.com/.../ talking about killing families: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_qEBwwET0s , saying that that he's militant... in a very ironic video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdBPP7nMfI&t=10s so no-he is not ''going against the war machine''
in fact-in 2016-he wanted more nukes. i don't even think he knows what a nuke is-seeing as how he wanted o nuke a hurricane... he just knows it causes things to blow up.
@Sabretooth Alright i had some time, so here we go.
Video 1: Loading error so i can't comment.
Video 2: Propaganda piece already debunked by the video i posted, given my video is from a later date yours does not contain any new info. Scandals with the border where inherrited from the Obama era and are now mostly resolved.
Video 3: Utter bullshit, trump looses points big time here from me. He knows there was no attack on the tower by these foreign powers just as well as he knows that planes can't have crashed the building down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlPhFIE7w
Video 4: He is saying here how Obama has the need to probably just attack Iran and he wants to do it trough negotiation. Thats not funding the war machine at all.
video 1: trump believes putin over are intelligence in regards to russia interference. 2: no, it has not been debunked-it's still widely being talked about by msnbc, the ring of fire, the young turks and Thom Hartmann and others-last i heard about it was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcvgrH2PG7A-farron has covered this a a lot-this is the most recent. 4: he says he's more militant and more militaristic than obama.
speaking of farron and the ring of fire-i want you to watch this and think long and hard about what this might mean of the republicans proceed with their fake trial and acquit trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgItgXnNyfc
These two can't even lead themselves to the bathroom at night and you want one of them to run this country? Fucking idiot.
I don't know. Personally, I think he did say it, but not in that way. But she made an issue out of it in order to score political points. But he made a mistake by denying it outright, which was a lie. So they're both guilty.
What’s your question? Do you mean which I’d rather kill?
They're both terrible picks for president, but I think Warren is a worse person.
Arsenic or Strychnine?
Drowning or Asphyxiation?
I prefer Sanders, but wouldn't be upset if Warren got the nomination either.
Neither, not a kid.
Maybe one day you'll see the world differently because I know all you see on twitter and facebook and tv etc is all aimed towards Democrats. You sort of grow up in that bubble and are oblivious to anything else
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