Why Did The Nazis Hate Communism?

[Desiboi1234]

Nazism is believes in fascism. And if my understanding of Nazism and Fascism isn't wrong than those guys believe that the government/furur owns everything and its a state run government. Concidering how Communism is pretty much the same thing why did the Communists and Nazis hate each other so much. Since their ideologies were soo similar shouldn't have have gotten along?

Why did Nazis hate Communists?

[Astarlessnightsky]

Communism is the exact opposite from capitalism.

Capitalism a few big componies own everything and do whatever they want to increase their wealth. A few ones are super rich and many are poor.

Communism, everything belongs to the people. No one is rich and no one is poor.

The government has nothing to say in both.

Nazis didn't hate communism, they hate everything foreign, and discrimminated against homosexuals, jews and other religion, sinti and roma, immigrants...

Hitler needed "space and rescources for the Aria Race",
thats why he invaded and conquered most of Europe, including parts of sovjet russia.
Hitler was friends with Stalin for a long time.

[Desiboi1234]

First of all u are totally wrong that hitler and stalin were friends. They were never friends and they never trusted each other

[Desiboi1234]

Secondly weren't Nazis Atheists or at least worshipers of a Cult of Personality like Stalin did in the Soviet Union?

[Astarlessnightsky]

Hitler and Stalin were at least allied and had a non aggression pact, "friends" were a little bit over the top and Hitler broke that pact when he invaded Sovjet Russia, thats why the sovjets joined the second world war against germany.

Religion wasn't super big under the nazi regime, but they were christians and the catholic church was "supportive" of the holocaust.

Also something else i remember what is important.
You also need to sperate a little bit more,
communism and capitalism are economic,
while fascism and democracy are political.

The nazis had a social-capitalistic system under a fascist dictatorship, that started as a democracy.

While the sovjets had a communist dictatorship.

[Passinggas]

They are nearly identical but both dictators fought to control the region or the world. I don’t see much difference between Hitler or Stalin except one huge thing that the libs latch onto; Hitler condemned abortion while Stalin supported it initially but changed due to low population because of the war. Stalin was claimed to be a feminist and Hitler was not.

[Anonymous]

They are practically the same. The fight was about who gets to be in charge

[hellionthesagereborn]

They didn't hate communism, they hated the Leninist style of communism. Basically the idea of communism/socialism wasn't the problem it was their globalist agenda that bothered them. they didn't want that kind of socialism because it wasn't state based and it would subsume (in their eyes) the culture of the state which the Nazis wanted to preserve.

[BCA6010]

Well for starters, just because ideologies share some aspects in common doesn't mean they should arbitrarily get along with each other, especially in this case where you had two megalomaniacs that wanted the world for themselves with no room for sharing.

[Desiboi1234]

So did Japan but Nazis got allong just fine with the Japanese aswell as Italy which was Nazi Germany 2.0

[MackToday]

I've wondered this. They could have , I think the real problem the Nazis had was Hitler. The guy was nuts, Stalin was nuts too but he was sly and cunning Hitler was run by anger and the need to strike out. Hitler could easily have become an ally of the Soviet Union and the two of them would have over run Europe, possibly even the US.

[4mazing]

Because the Nazis blamed Communism on the Jews. Back then, Communism was an international movement. You see a lot of echoes of it today.

That's what Trumpians mean when they talk about "the global elite", "globalism", and - less subtly - George Soros.

It's the same old nationalism and antisemitism

[Soteris]

First of all they are not the same at all but the real reason why they hate each other is to do with history. They were natural enemies and the hostilities just grew from there.

[Desiboi1234]

How were they different?

[Soteris]

Communism is about communal ownership, Nazism is about direct control and supreme leader. They are different.

[Internarchitect]

Both wanted control, therefore they were at odds with one another. The Communists had infiltrated the Western governments in Europe. The Nazis were trying to stop the Communists influence and force them back out of Europe.

[Internarchitect]

There are similarities. In both cases they targeted the intelligentsia as internal enemies or threats to their power. That is why they targeted the Jews as a threat. The Jews would have shown them for who they were and gathered support from others to over throw the Nazis in time.

The Communists murdered the intelligentsia as well.

[Desiboi1234]

So it wasn't a fight of ideologies?

[Internarchitect]

It was, the Communists were for world domination for sure. The Nazis were more for controlling Europe in my opinion. I don’t think they really cared about the world beyond Europe.

[Internarchitect]

Like the US, they would need oil, so the German Empire would have influence in the Middle East.

[Internarchitect]

Communist influence spanned the globe by the 1980’s. Nazism died in 1945 with the exception of a few odd hate groups.

[Desiboi1234]

If Germany defeat USSR today we would have had Nazism instead of Communism

[Internarchitect]

Maybe, but I don’t think Nazism is as transportable as Communism is. Nazism is close to capitalism. Communism is like a night and day shift that appeals to many of the less fortunate. I think that is why it was so wide spread even at the time of Nazism. Communism is a form of feudalism. It is an old idea that has never worked that well, but is still appealing in theory.

[Desiboi1234]

doesn't Nazism also promote a state run economy? How is it capitalistic?

[Internarchitect]

It does, but it allows private businesses and property ownership as long as it supports the state.

[DJZest]

Dear zombie tentacle of the machine, know that you cannot be saved, because your nature is that of a cuck, a sell-out who submits to the system raping his individuality, and enjoying it.

The very thought of cultivating individually is utterly foreign to you, therefore all you see is the prospect of, perhaps, one day, arriving at that fantasy construct of a world that you worship in your idealistic-petty mind.

[NaultD]

Colonialism was a big factor. In the early Hitler era he wanted to colonize Russia but once Russia went communist they would be the power that rolled over Berlin to end the war.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You know there are a lot more axis on the political spectrum than the one that you're looking at right?

[Desiboi1234]

Japan and Italy?

[October808]

National socialism is not fascism. Nazism is a slur given to Germans by zionists and perpetuated in media.

[Desiboi1234]

Are you implying that Nazis were good people?

As far as Zionism is concerned even I hate them. They are the Jewish version of Isis.

Both Nazism and Zionism are fascists

[October808]

There were no nazis. That was a slur given to Germans. The Jewsh communists were the bad people. Look up Red ctober, Bloody Sunday and Holodomor, Katyn Massacre and other atrocities committed by them. They did not sign the Geneva Convention. They killed 66 milion people. They NKVD was Stalin's kill squad.

[Desiboi1234]

What about the holocaust?

[October808]

Also Judaism = communism. fascism, socialism and capitalism. Read up on the communist manifesto.

[Desiboi1234]

U have a problem with Zionism or the entire jewish religion? I mean even i hate those pathetic Zionist Terrorists but Judaiam and Zionism aren't the same thing.

[October808]

I hav a problem with communism which is communism. Which the UN is a front for.

[October808]

Zionism which is communism rather.

[Desiboi1234]

And why exactly do u hate communism? Communism is supposed to give equality and low wage workers their rights? Whats wrong about that?

[October808]

Dude go watch 'Europa: Last Battle'. It will answer all your questions. Then follow it up with '1/3rd of World War II' and 'History of the Jews In Russia'. Then you can have the facts and make up your own mind.

[Laozi]

Why would two tigers fight with each other? Because they both want whole jungle for them.

[bangyourhead]

Nazis blamed the Communists for the Armistice that ended WW1

[Desiboi1234]

Did russian withdraw from ww1 ?

[bangyourhead]

www.theholocaustexplained.org/.../

[Internarchitect]

The Russian withdraw allowed Germany to focus all of its forces on the Western Front.

[Pamina]

Lose that wrong premise, then you'll understand.

[Anonymous]

Because commys hate nazis