Is it bad that I’m a British Nationalist and would one day like to see my country racially as it were before immigration but through peaceful means?

[Bald-n-Boastful]

Through peaceful non violent means.

[Leavesbound]

Your view is understandable but that is not likely to happen and ethically, attempting to make it happen is wrong due to the fact that the UK and before that Great Britain wrongly attempted to conquest the world, doing so obligated it to take in some of the population in each place it attempted conquest. If you don't like people from Hong Kong, Africa, India living in your country then perhaps your people ought not have dragged them from those places as a source of cheap or free labor. It is your punishment for exploiting them. Norway is an example of a nation that did not engage in this sort of behavior and therefore has a moral right to maintain their nation's ethnicity as they see fit and they do to a certain extent.

[Anonymous]

I'd guess you hark back to the '70s when the country was more white focused, national front, depression, and strikes, although blacks and Asians were there aplenty.
But you're only 25 so confused.
Perhaps you're more focused on the recent white influx from the other side of Europe.
This stuff has been going on forever.

[Jessica405]

We are supposedly one of the world's richest nations, but we will always be poor, with inadequate housing, while we allow so many immigrants. Not just my opinion, but a fact. We have opened the door to millions from Hong Kong. Where the fuck are we going to house them, when so many of our own are denied decent homes?

[Jessica405]

To the downvoter. Please suggest a suitable answer to where we will house these potential immigrants! I bet you can't!

[Yyyyu]

Most Hong Kong citizen won't come their per capita income is better than UK and working in China big cities is easier if you are from hong Kong rather than Uk

[SpiderManFan2002]

Hmmm... This you?😂

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4ZjEvd-ss

You sound like the average racist slubberdrgullion😂✌🏾

[SpiderManFan2002]

Lol two dislikes stay mad cos you can’t handle the truth😂😂How are you mad that Britain has POC when the flag of England is the St. George’s flag- breaking news: St. George was not white, he was a Turkish Arab- you celebrate a non-white dude yet you’re mad non-white people are here- not only racism but hypocrisy at its peak😂😂

[goaded]

Brilliant video. :)

[SpiderManFan2002]

I know I love Riz Ahmed- I wonder how many people actually watched that thinking it was a white British nationalist then they got to the end😂😂😂😂

[goaded]

I was asking myself if he knew he was talking like an immigrant and not an Eastender. Or do all the kids talk like that now?

God, I feel old!

[SpiderManFan2002]

He’s not a kid I think he’s like in his 30s or something😂😂

But nah he was intending to sound like your typical far-right dude who thinks the problem is brown and black faces😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️

[goaded]

I refer you to my final sentence. :(

[jshm2]

Yes as there never was such a time when Britain was "free" of immigration.

The Picts and Celts were wiped out by the German, Greek, Roman and Viking immigrants who settled to make the modern "Englanders" as you like to think yourselves.

Then you decided to invade other lands under the British Empire and a lot of those people followed you home to civilise you.

Hence the reason it's bad you dream of a time that never existed.

[FortheloveofHistory]

I think the most telling things about this questions is...
THIS is considered racist by the majority of people here..

But if another group (specifically non white, non european) were to want the same thing
it would be considered preservation, forward thinking, and a perfectly acceptable demand?

interesting isn't it?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Nah not really bro. If the reason you want someone out of your country is for it to be “racially as it was before” it’s basically saying “I don’t want X race in my country” that’s racist no matter who says it👍🏾✨

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002

Exactly my point
but not seen that way by most people sadly

[SpiderManFan2002]

I disagree, I think it is.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Not really
there tends to be a double standard held
For example,
Black Nationalism is often viewed in a very positive way (even Oscar worthy apparently)
^ even if according to the SPLC the majority of Domestic Terrorist groups in the USA are of that particular movement.
^ which according to their last report
over the 1,020 Hate Groups in the USA
264 were Black Nationalist

while only
148 were White Nationalist

The fact is, any sort of racial prejudice from other other side (Be it Liberal, or Non White)
TENDS to (not always).. BUT USUALLY.. is supported by the Mainstream

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Same issue is applied to a lot of Foreign issues where
clearly Racist/Prejudice based concepts are viewed as "acceptable"
ranging from Japanese and Chinese Immigration Laws (and Refugee Laws)
^ which are FAR FAR FAR more aggressive than American Laws
to Racial elitism held in other parts of the world
for example, the complete denial (in most mainstream corners) of the Chinese actions against Uyghurs <--- very few even open to speaking about this

Honestly the list just kinda goes on
the Media ignorance (and near total acceptance)
of racially/religious/ethnic. ETC based violence in other nations
like Iraq... or Iran.. or India
Not to many people quite open to speaking out against it
Or Turkish violence against Kurds (and vice versa)

almost a "not our problem who cares"

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Take it from a Liberal myself
There is an extreme double standard held by our side on most issues.
In regards to racial issues... ESPECIALLY

Often times there more of an emphasis on a PC type culture to the point that it ignores REAL problems.. for the benefit of not offending people.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002
sorry for all the comments
feel free to message me
if youd rather :)
it would make the conversation easier and less cluttered.
your choice

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 *Hate Groups
not Domestic Terrorism

[SpiderManFan2002]

No offense but you’re literally diverting from what you originally said.

You said: “But if another group (specifically non white, non european) were to want the same thing
it would be considered preservation, forward thinking, and a perfectly acceptable demand?”

Now if those black nationalist groups you gave an example of are considered hate groups- then tell me, who’s viewing non-white people doing the same thing what the OP is saying as acceptable?

And I’ve never seen the Japanese or Chinese immigration laws being called acceptable in fact, Japan was used as an example in my English class as somewhere that does not allow immigration- and this was not glorified. In terms of the Uyghurs in China a number of people are actually speaking out against China for what is happening to the Uyghurs- you just have to follow the right people, and actually again I’ve heard a number of people be critical about the other countries you’ve mentioned too, but worse case scenario let’s say nobody is speaking out - even though that isn’t true and I know that’s not what you said so don’t try and come for me - then that still disproves your initial claim of people seeing it as an acceptable demand? Tell me, with China, with Japan, with India, Iraq, Afghanistan- who ever said these countries behaviour towards minorities is acceptable?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Moreover, can you show me a non-white person, from a non-white country- asking to see their country “racially as it was before” and responses to that are basically everyone cheering for them, and saying it’s perfectly acceptable?

It just seems like you want to play a game of whataboutism and play victim. I don’t dispute that there are double standards within the mainstream media, but you made an incredibly bold claim that if a non-white person in a non-white country was to want what the OP wants people would consider it to be acceptable? When I don’t think that’s the case, I think the majority would view it as racist and a minority as not. And actually if you look at the responses to this question you have a number of people who also don’t condemn the question or see it as racist. Seems like you just want to be the victim real bad.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Well this is quite simply to answer
Black Nationalist groups in the United States are viewed as Hate Groups by the intellectual community
However, the media tends to support them and hail them as heroes.

As we know, CNN, Fox News.. etc have more influence over the public perspective than most.

Also, of course
We see Anti-White (Or elitist) attitudes in nations like China, Japan, South Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan. ETC.
All of these nations suffer from various ethnic conflicts, and often call for a return to how things were.

I think the issue here is that you want to be close minded
you want to play the "blame the white" game
as oppose to accept that other races do the same thing?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Give me an example of the media glorifying a black hate group then- and don’t say BLM, because:
a) there’s been mixed reporting about BLM both good and bad
b) not every person who supports BLM hates white people- unlike say the “Nation of Islam”.

Show me an example of any of those nations saying what the OP said in this post, it seems like you’re twisting things now. “Often call for a return to how things were” that could mean anything, in the past other countries were thriving- they could simply mean that- has anyone from any of those countries said that they want their country to return “racially as it was before” and the comment has been supported by the masses? You have South Africa as an example. I’ve seen several news reports about the white farmers in South Africa, and that is a devastating case of racism condemned by many.

And where did I blame white people for anything? Not you putting words in my mouth😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️I never said other races don’t do the same thing, what I said was I don’t think it would be seen as acceptable by most people for other races to do the same thing- yet you think the contrary, quite clearly, wanting to play victim.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 FIRST OFF, lets go through your reply, and show exactly WHY you are proving my point correct.

“No offense but you’re literally diverting from what you originally said.
You said: “But if another group (specifically non white, non european) were to want the same thing
it would be considered preservation, forward thinking, and a perfectly acceptable demand?””
----- My Point in this reply is that there has been a double standard held within the United States against White people on the issue of Race. FOR EXAMPLE the issue of Cultural Appropriation tends to be a VERY one sided issue, and VERY RARELY are Minorities ever reprimanded for using White Culture… HOWEVER, there are numerous articles written about “Whites Appropriating Culture” THE same issue applies to how Corporate and Government elites handle race issues.. from Affirmative Action.. to Youtube limitations (Which allow videos like the “What are Whites Superior At” from Cut to be uploaded.. which are clearly racist.. But will remove Conservative White videos?). IN REGARDS to Whites and the preservation of White Culture, it is commonly accepted by the Public as being as Racist concept.. while Black Nationalism… or other Elitist ideals are often hailed. And even consider themselves OSCAR worth (check the recent Oscars).

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Now if those black nationalist groups you gave an example of are considered hate groups- then tell me, who’s viewing non-white people doing the same thing what the OP is saying as acceptable?
---------- Once again, as provided above, this is due to the PUBLIC arena. This is due to the PRIVATE interest groups, or PRIVATE corporations that influence racial violence in the United States. CNN for example will openly denounce things as “White supremacy” even if they are not.. BUT will always be hesitant to use the terms “Black Nationalism” … FOR EXAMPLE for the most recent DC incident? It was difficult for them to even speak about the mans background. OR.. in terms of Anti-Asian violence it was difficult for them to recognize the perps as BLACK (which they were in most cases, and by government statistics they are).. but once a White man carried out such hostilities.. it was immediately highlighted as domestic terrorism

[SpiderManFan2002]

And again what you’re saying has some truth to it, but that doesn’t support your initial claim: who is viewing non-whites who say they want their country to be “racially as it was before” as acceptable?

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 And I’ve never seen the Japanese or Chinese immigration laws being called acceptable in fact, Japan was used as an example in my English class as somewhere that does not allow immigration- and this was not glorified. In terms of the Uyghurs in China a number of people are actually speaking out against China for what is happening to the Uyghurs- you just have to follow the right people, and actually again I’ve heard a number of people be critical about the other countries you’ve mentioned too, but worse case scenario let’s say nobody is speaking out - even though that isn’t true and I know that’s not what you said so don’t try and come for me - then that still disproves your initial claim of people seeing it as an acceptable demand? Tell me, with China, with Japan, with India, Iraq, Afghanistan- who ever said these countries behaviour towards minorities is acceptable?
--- -Within the United States, there is very much a “Don’t worry about their views” perspective that is being pushed.. and Also a Corporate Greed influence. Disney will openly accept China, and ignore the Uyghur issue for profits (from the Mulan film), because the recognition of such an even goes against the idea of them pushing their products within China. IT IS DIFFICULT for American corporations (or even American government agencies) to denounce nations like China, because of the need to not piss them off for trade. THERE is very much a mixed standard being applied (which no doubt you accept as well). The same thing applies to Japanese or Chinese Immigration laws, which play little to no influence in American classrooms. JAPAN is often hailed as a progressive nation, and has throughout many of the protests been viewed as a nation the United States should model itself after.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 - Same thing was applied to gun law issues in the United States. None the less, we will happily ignore Japanese EXTREMELY prejudiced standards for immigration and refugee status, while attacking the United States for being fairly open? What sort of double standards are these? THIS is completely IGNORING actions taken by the Chinese Government against Minorities.. the Japanese government against Minorities… the same thing applies to Iraq, India, Afghanistan….
The Fact is.. American issues take domination, while other nations that do far worse. Are often ignored by most circles.
Instead, any sort of conversation in retort is often viewed as prejudiced?
10 years ago this was not the case? Today? Yes.

[SpiderManFan2002]

And if you read my reply, I said that I don’t necessarily dispute there is a kind of double standard but I think it’s incredibly far-fetched to say a non-white person, from a non-white country to ask this same question and it would be supported by most rather than called racist. Read what I say, not what you want to hear so you can play victim.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Moreover, can you show me a non-white person, from a non-white country- asking to see their country “racially as it was before” and responses to that are basically everyone cheering for them, and saying it’s perfectly acceptable?
---- Sure? Nearly every Middle Eastern, African, Asian country that pushes its elitist ideals. Do you believe that “Supremacy” is a unique American or White trait? HAVE there not been conflicts throughout the world specifically on the Ethnic struggles? HAVE we not just listed some in this conversation where Governments, or People.. are in conflict with other racial groups (minorities usually) and even go as far as attempt to exterminate them? Did we not just discuss how these issues are LARGELY ignored by the West? You also damn well know there have been pundits who have gone as far as to call out such things as the treatment of the Kurds as ACCEPTABLE… or treatment of Muslims ACCEPTABLE (being a Muslim yourself clearly) within the United States itself? Don’t be so blind.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 It just seems like you want to play a game of whataboutism and play victim. I don’t dispute that there are double standards within the mainstream media, but you made an incredibly bold claim that if a non-white person in a non-white country was to want what the OP wants people would consider it to be acceptable? When I don’t think that’s the case, I think the majority would view it as racist and a minority as not. And actually if you look at the responses to this question you have a number of people who also don’t condemn the question or see it as racist. Seems like you just want to be the victim real bad.
-------- Once again, I am speaking of Western Culture that prescribes to a concept that Whites are ALL Racist, and White Supremacy runs everything, and that other cultures (non Whites). You know as well as I that there is a complete ignorance in the West, of most things going on in other parts of the world. And that BOTH SIDeS (Liberal or Conservative) are more than happy to throw certain groups under the bus. I never made the claim I am speaking about other NATIONS.. I am speaking about the degradation of Western Culture.. due to the PC/SJW madness.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Give me an example of the media glorifying a black hate group then- and don’t say BLM, because:
a) there’s been mixed reporting about BLM both good and bad
b) not every person who supports BLM hates white people- unlike say the “Nation of Islam”.
--- Well for one, considering the actions of the BLM are not quite different from the from other groups we are more than happy to label as Hate groups? I would listen.. But none the less, even the most recent movie rewards were heavily influenced by Black Nationalist hate groups (including documentaries on them) which were mix of nominees and wins.” The list is honestly endless. These groups are rarely ever made into villains, because the obsession by the media is White Supremacy.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Except you haven’t given me a specific example. You’ve just said essentially nearly every non-white country, without giving me a specific example- it’s actually laughable. You tell me what are their elitist ideals? And who has cheered for them or supported them? Where have they called for the removal of white people specifically because they’d rather it be their own race there and only their own race and everyone has cheered for them instead of condemning them?

Most people I’ve seen call the treatment of the Uyghurs in China acceptable are actually where people who are Islamophobic, there has been non-white Islamophobes too, but the majority of them in my experience has been white. In terms of the Kurds in Turkey I haven’t seen a single person call that acceptable either, like you’re insinuating.

Of course issues of racism outside the USA and white countries exist, and yes the West does ignore certain issues outside the West- I don’t disagree with you on that and that is down to our rubbish politicians, but to say the majority of people would view a non-white person asking this question as acceptable and not racist is just absolutely ridiculous and shows rather than condemning this person, you want to play the whataboutism game and play victim. I guarantee you Wallahi, if I saw a non-white person asking this question I’d condemn it- you on the other hand basically whined about how if a non-white person asked this people would find it acceptable which is just utter nonsense!

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Show me an example of any of those nations saying what the OP said in this post, it seems like you’re twisting things now. “Often call for a return to how things were” that could mean anything, in the past other countries were thriving- they could simply mean that- has anyone from any of those countries said that they want their country to return “racially as it was before” and the comment has been supported by the masses? You have South Africa as an example. I’ve seen several news reports about the white farmers in South Africa, and that is a devastating case of racism condemned by many.
--- Once again, my comment was about specifically Western Double Standards. I am speaking specifically about USA Perspectives in this list. I am not talking about foreign actors specifically. None the less, its obviously happened.. Considering many regions of the world have undergone ethnic/religious turmoil… various dictators slaughtering other ethnic groups.. ETC ETC ETC. Some of these hailed as acceptable (or non existence.. such as the Armenian Genocide.. not accepted by the Turkish government).. by various parties. IN REGARDS to global issues.. Its very clear that there are varied answers to this question. SOME WERE clearly supportive of the actions of ISIS? Others condemned it.. and most issues generally go under the radar….
However, my point was specifically about WESTERN (media/political) perspectives on these issues.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 And where did I blame white people for anything? Not you putting words in my mouth🤦‍♀‍I never said other races don’t do the same thing, what I said was I don’t think it would be seen as acceptable by most people for other races to do the same thing- yet you think the contrary, quite clearly, wanting to play victim.
--- That is good! Because other races do the exact same thing.. and that is one of my major points 😊

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 And again what you’re saying has some truth to it, but that doesn’t support your initial claim: who is viewing non-whites who say they want their country to be “racially as it was before” as acceptable?
--- I have provided examples, and stated I am specifically talking about Western issues. NOT Perspectives from other nations.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Except it’s not every BLM person out there doing crimes. A number of them protest peacefully. You could say the same thing about the Capitol Hill rioters who support the Republican Party- does their actions mean that any group favoring the Republicans or the Republican Party itself is a hate group? I think not.

Moreover can you give me an example of a Oscar nominee that was inspired by a black nationalist hate group then?

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 And if you read my reply, I said that I don’t necessarily dispute there is a kind of double standard but I think it’s incredibly far-fetched to say a non-white person, from a non-white country to ask this same question and it would be supported by most rather than called racist. Read what I say, not what you want to hear so you can play victim.
--- Once again, I am not talking about people from other countries. I am speaking about how an Iraqi would view something, or how someone from Turkey would view something.. THAT is another topic in itself. Prejudice exists everywhere obviously
I am speaking specifically about WESTERN perspectives, and double standards on this topic.
I am not including other nations perspectives, because that would make the conversation more complex and cluttered than it is. . and We both know there are PLENTY of examples of it.
However, that is not the topic I am bringing up, ONCE AGAIN
I am speaking about WESTERN perspectives specifically
The double standard in the West in how Whites are viewed, as opposed to others.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002
Except you haven’t given me a specific example. You’ve just said essentially nearly every non-white country, without giving me a specific example- it’s actually laughable. You tell me what are their elitist ideals? And who has cheered for them or supported them? Where have they called for the removal of white people specifically because they’d rather it be their own race there and only their own race and everyone has cheered for them instead of condemning them?
 Once again, I am not speaking about these nations or there perspectives. I am talking about Western media perspectives.. Or Western double standards. WE BOTH KNOW that in the history of conflicts, there have been MANY MANY MANY examples of genocide… persecution.. etc.. ACCEPTED by various parties… Or outright denied to have existed.
 That is not the topic I am talking about…

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Most people I’ve seen call the treatment of the Uyghurs in China acceptable are actually where people who are Islamophobic, there has been non-white Islamophobes too, but the majority of them in my experience has been white. In terms of the Kurds in Turkey I haven’t seen a single person call that acceptable either, like you’re insinuating.
--- Precisely! THANK YOU. As we can see, It is acceptable to others. But once again, Not exactly the topic im trying to bring up.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Of course issues of racism outside the USA and white countries exist, and yes the West does ignore certain issues outside the West- I don’t disagree with you on that and that is down to our rubbish politicians, but to say the majority of people would view a non-white person asking this question as acceptable and not racist is just absolutely ridiculous and shows rather than condemning this person, you want to play the whataboutism game and play victim. I guarantee you Wallahi, if I saw a non-white person asking this question I’d condemn it- you on the other hand basically whined about how if a non-white person asked this people would find it acceptable which is just utter nonsense!
 I am glad you would! Great!
not what im talking about.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Well I’m sorry but what are you talking about?

I’m talking about how your original opinion is BS, because what you’re essentially saying is that if a non-white person asked this question it’d be seen as accept, complete BS and wanting to play the victim rather than actually just condemning the OP for his question.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002
Except it’s not every BLM person out there doing crimes. A number of them protest peacefully. You could say the same thing about the Capitol Hill rioters who support the Republican Party- does their actions mean that any group favoring the Republicans or the Republican Party itself is a hate group? I think not.
---- Considering the amount of damage in comparison it is debatable.
Moreover can you give me an example of a Oscar nominee that was inspired by a black nationalist hate group then?
- Judas and the Black Panther to name one, which is about the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party.
- The entire Oscars was more or less the “Black Oscars” .. where there put up standards that required films to have a certain amount of Black people in it (or production crew) to even meet the standard… WHICH is the bigger issue I think
- TOKENISM is not acceptable.. it shouldn’t be acceptable.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Well I’m sorry but what are you talking about?

I’m talking about how your original opinion is BS, because what you’re essentially saying is that if a non-white person asked this question it’d be seen as accept, complete BS and wanting to play the victim rather than actually just condemning the OP for his question.
---- The Fact we are having this discussion is a proof of the power of this double standard?
When can we start being honest about these issues, instead of blaming the White man for everything?

I THINK you ultimately agree with me on most issues

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002
CAN YOU JUST MESSAGE ME
it would be easier
than going back and forth on this stupid thing hahahaha

and it would be FAR easier to explain
than having these long ass replies
where you are missing a lot of my points.

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 Send me a message
I can describe my perspective on this issue and what I am trying to describe

I think ultimately you agree with MOST of my points

[FortheloveofHistory]

@SpiderManFan2002 I am only 1xper so you will have to message me first :)

[Soteris]

Not sure what you expect. If there is one place with more immigrants than USA it is the UK. Your whole history and pre-history is one of immigration. There is actually a funny standup comedy about this.
https://dai.ly/x5vzbk0

Sadly its been removed from youtube so thats the best link I have for you right now.

[goaded]

That is hilarious! Thanks!

[Soteris]

@goaded Its one of my favorites and an excellent example of how comedy is an art. He is one of the few comedians who can just re-use the same joke over and over again and it just becomes funnier.

[Anonymous]

At what point did the British isles not have foreigners? Y’all had Romans back in the day, along with their Spanish and German auxiliary forces. Y’all brought Native American Indians back as “citizens”, along with those you’ve conquered.


Need I go on?

[Bald-n-Boastful]

There’s no Native Americans in the U. K...

[Opinion Owner]

Y’all kidnapped pochahontas and kept her there until the day she died. So yeah, there was. God your ignorant

[Bald-n-Boastful]

That was over 500 years ago and she’s buried in Gravesend

[Opinion Owner]

And yet it still proves my point.

[_Troian_]

Well its bad for you because either if you want it or not, its in UK's destiny to be bred by immigrants ( Pakis, Arabs, Kurds, Blacks ) and have a diffrent demography :D Maybe 20 years later or maybe 50 years later but one day u will even witness your new queens getting married with an immigrant/Black.

[NamerOfStars]

So, no English people, then? Just a bunch of proto-Celtic folks building giant stone circles and fighting to keep the mainland barbarians out? No Scandinavians or Romans?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Lol check out the dudes profile he’s super racist😂😂See he says “immigration” what he really means is “non-whites”✌🏾✌🏾😂✨

[Yyyyu]

Immigrants also includes East European just not North West European

[SpiderManFan2002]

Your point is?

[Yyyyu]

They don't only want non white out also East European it is just North West European like German French are genetically are similar to them. Their values and culture is quite same this is why it is called West. East European are also white but they don't want them

[SpiderManFan2002]

He said he would like to see his country “racially as it was before” are we really going to pretend we don’t know what that means? Look at the questions on his profile it’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together lol

[jjj101010]

Which immigration? Roman? Viking? French? Throughout history for over 2000 years we have been invaded and had people settle here who were not indigenous to the country. They all brought cultures and practices that seemed alien to the original inhabitants. Immigration has taken place pretty much forever. Do u want to go back to just the druids living here or do u just mean brown people?

[ChrisMaster69]

Racially before immigration

you ain’t that clever are you.

I appreciate you are racist, but which of the many waves

[Jessica405]

Wanting to limit immigration is not racist. I suggest you stick your hand in your pocket to finance housing for the myriads of immigrants we potentially have.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Jessica405 the question is not about limiting it’s about resetting

There is a huge difference.

I fully agree with limits across the board, however re read the question.

So this is basically pre 1940’s or even 1900’s

[ChrisMaster69]

@Jessica405 also this is a UK question, so it’s very specific to UK immigration.

The bit that is racist

see my country racially as it were before immigration

That’s removing anyone from India, Pakistan, Caribbean, etc.

That is racism not controlling immigration

[Jessica405]

I agree it would be difficult, but we will never have adequate housing if something radical happens. No government here is able to keep up with demand. With student debts of thousands, my guy and I will never be able to buy. We can't afford private rental, and there is no social housing to be had. We have seen the latter go to European immigrants. So we live with my family. No chance of anything else!

[Jessica405]

delete "if". Make it... unless something radical...

[NikolaiIvanov]

No brother you should be proud of your nation and your history, God save the Queen and RULE BRITTANIA!!

[Anonymous]

Are you talking
pre-Windrush
Pre-potato famine
Pre-Hanover
Pre-Norman
Pre-Caeser

Just so we can work on what we are dealing with here

[SpiderManFan2002]

He’s a racist, so he probably just means anyone who isn’t white😂🤦🏾‍♀️

[Anonymous]

I don’t care the UK looks like a miserable place to live I don’t understand why immigrants choose such a miserable island filled with miserable people.

[jamesgoldman]

Free healthcare and free money is a hellava draw

[Opinion Owner]

@jamesgoldman free money? Lol

[msc545]

It isn't bad. I personally cannot wait to see pigs fly. Peacefully, of course.

[7771999]

Not bad at all. We're in the same struggle brother 🙏🏻

[Anonymous]

satan is the ruler of this world

you have no say

[FakeName123]

You are literally Hitler, bro.

[tartaarsaus]

It’s racist, which is bad. So yes, it’s bad

[Jessica405]

Like I said in my comment, where are we going to house all the potential immigrants from Hong Kong?
When our own have inadequate and decent homes?

It is not racist to want to limit immigration. I still have relatives in Oz, and they are damned strict on who they let in.

[7771999]

Someone says "racist", I go 😴

[ChrisMaster69]

@Jessica405 you have relatives in Australia, this question if you supplement UK with Australia means removing all people prior to immigration, which means turning it over to the aboriginal inhabitants.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Jessia405 Lol firstly his comment was not aimed at you, secondly genuine question for you. Can you read? Because if you could read you’d see the OP said he: “would one day like to see my country ***racially*** as it was before” doesn’t take a genius to work out what that means, but if you need that extra help check out dude’s profile and I’m pretty sure you have at least one brain cell to contemplate he means get rid of the non-whites, which is racist- I mean many non-whites are born in Britain, I’m non-white England is the only country I’ve ever been in- where does he want to send me back to? A country I’ve never been to before?😂

Honestly it’s always “immigrants taking our jobs/our houses” yet people like you so conveniently forget many immigrants were called to Britain to work, like the Desi community after WW2 for example. Without them, and many other immigrants who helped rebuild this country Britain, like it or not. But instead of seeing a community who sacrificed so much to come help rebuild this country while also getting chased and beaten and sworn at by fascists despite doing essential work for this country, all people like to OP and perhaps you see are is a non-white face.

And some people claimed “we could have done it without them” A) I think not otherwise the government wouldn’t have called them over
B ) Even if you could have which I doubt, you didn’t they contributed whether you like it or not that is fact so stop invalidating essential contributions to this country just because you can’t accept immigrants have done good for this country

[ChrisMaster69]

@SpiderManFan2002 well said, I had thought it was just me seeing just how wrong the statement was.

I wonder what the ethnic split would be if it was simply, get rid of those to lazy to work, that’s telling and I can imagine what it would be.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@ChrisMaster69 Lmao I think my opinion on this question pretty much sums up every person with their mentality😂😂

[Jessica405]

@SpiderManFan2002 I do realise what he said. I am simply adding my thoughts that we have to stop all immigration, and repatriate those that arrive illegally. I want a fucking home of my own, and I have seen 4 or 5 go down the pan to some immigrant family, that seem to get preferential treatment. What do you propose?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Then I guess you want your family from Australia to be deported too? Lol stop all immigration?😂😂But who’s going to do the work in the nursing homes when over half this population is over 50? Many young British born people don’t want do these job, so who will?😂😂 Are you sure they went to immigrants or did they just go to non-whites or just people who’ve worked harder than you did?

Bet you voted Boris😂😂Lovely how you won’t blame the Tories and their policies as to why the homelessness rate is increasing, but sure, blame tHe ImMiGrAnTs that’s exactly what they want you to do then, they’ll use the same scare tactics and anti-immigrant rhetoric to win you over in the next GE and screw you over again and then you’ll blame the immigrants and round and round we go😂😂😂😂

[Jessica405]

@SpiderManFan2002 Yes, I know they went to immigrants! You only have to hear them talking for a start! It is nothing to do with Boris or politics. Labour, in power, did nothing, or very little. The coalition was the same. Whatever YOU say, we have too many immigrants. It is like pyramid selling. The more immigrants we get, the more we need. Everyone is too politically correct to say otherwise. I am pissed off with the whole system of trying to bid for a housing association flat, that ends up being given to a foreigner!

I trust you would be willing to put up with tax increases to fund a massive social housing programme? I am not the only person in our locality that feels the same way. Those that can afford to buy or rent privately just do not really know what it is like.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Ahhhh your racist bitterness is showing!!!😆😆😆😂😂😂✨✨✨Blame the immigrants but I don’t see you saying anything about wealthy upper-class people who have empty houses and flats in certain parts of the country😂😂

Love how you just ignored all my points about immigrants contributing to the economy and doing the jobs the born British public won’t😂😂😂✌🏾✌🏾

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Jessica405 As a passionate anti-immigration activist I think the first thing you should do is tell your family to move out of Australia so they can stop taking the jobs and houses of the indigenous people😂😂

Then take an ancestry DNA test to see where your family were before they immigrated to the UK and then, you can “go back” to wherever that is😂😂Life was said to have started in Africa soooo if you want I could start you a GoFundMe so you can go back to Africa?😂😂😂😂👍🏾👍🏾😝😝

[tartaarsaus]

@Jessica045

Housing is clearly not even marginally relevant to the original asker of the question.

And if you lack housing, build more. It ain’t difficult.

[tartaarsaus]

The government has the power to easily redirect fiscal spending and start large housing programs. Except they don’t, and that in essence is due to the voter not caring enough about it.

[ChrisMaster69]

@tartaarsaus this has been the case for multiple governments, there is no great desire to go back to building council housing.

[Jessica405]

@SpiderManFan2002 There is plenty of housing and land for everone in Oz. It is not so here. Housing is so much better out there than the rabbit hutches we have here.

I will ask you some questions:

1. When do you think we will reach our limit of immigration?

2. What will that level be?

3. What do you think my boyfriend and I should do about being able to live independently?

4. Can YOU come up with some workable solutions instead of being critical, which is only too easy?

[Jessica405]

It is the Margatet Thatcher attitude. Blow you, Jack! I'm ok! There is no desire to fund social housing. A basic tennet of our various governments. Why? It is not viable. Pass the buck onto the private sector. Flog off council housing to the occupiers at knockdown prices. Funded by the taxpayer.

I have yet to see some sensible ideas.

[Jessica405]

@SpiderManFan2002 I am an amateur genealogist. DNA and public records show I am part English, Welsh, Scots, Irish, French, and Asian. The Asian bit is documented as being from North Borneo. There may well be others yet to be found. I can settle in a lot of places! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Jessica405 So at some point, someone in your family would have been an immigrant here but now immigrants are getting houses and you’re not you don’t want them here? Got it.

There isn’t millions and millions of immigrants coming to the country, like the propaganda you get fed tells you lol, there’s a few hundred thousand- we’re not being ‘pushed to our limits’ at all. If an immigrant comes to this country and works hard which they do, I see no issue with them getting a house, they came here, worked, contributed to the economy- so I see no issue.

If anything Britain needs immigrants with our aging population and shortage in certain industries, such as the trucking industry, farm work, immigrants fill most of them jobs because they’re willing to do such jobs whereas the vast majority of British born people are not lol.

[Jessica405]

@SpiderManFan2002 Because we are too willing to support people that sponge off the state! That is why so many economic immigrant come here. Have a look at some of the urban spread happening in our towns. Small houses at hugely inflated prices, partly because land IS in short supply!

There appears to be much easy criticism, but very few practical suggestions. Sure, I am bitter! Both of us 7 years at uni, and no chance of a home while we pay off enormous student loans etc.

[Jessica405]

Like I said, the more we let in, the more we need to look after them. When will it end?

[tartaarsaus]

The practical solution is fairly easy. Direct government funds to building more houses. Job done.

And lol, it is actually quite difficult to immigrate to the UK with no job or a very low-paying one. Asylum seekers are the exception to that. However, you’re basically bound by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and various international treaties to accept the right of asylum by legitimate asylum seekers.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Except they don’t all sponge off the state, many of them help fill our skills shortages in many areas of work- and the government simply needs to invest more in housing, immigrants aren’t the problem here.

Many economists conclude that immigration is good for Britain’s economy. Studies suggest that immigrants actually boost public finances because they spend more in direct taxes and actually make much less use of benefits and public services- but hey I suppose you know better than economists and people who study these things because you read an article in the Daily Mail stating otherwise lol

[tartaarsaus]

And if we’re talking about EU

“EU immigrants are more educated, younger, more likely to be in work and less likely to claim benefits than the UK-born”

“Changes in wages and joblessness for less educated UK- born workers show little correlation with changes in EU immigration”

“EU immigrants pay more in taxes than they take out in welfare and the use of public services. They therefore help reduce the budget deficit. Immigrants do not have a negative effect on local services such as crime, education, health, or social housing”

https://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/brexit05.pdf

[7771999]

Damn, this thread is more cancerous than Twitter 💀😂

[SpiderManFan2002]

@7771999 I think the original question is the most cancerous thing if anything💀💀😂😝

[ItsMeItsMe1989]

About as bad as hitler, if not worse

[ItsMeItsMe1989]

Huh, I pointed out the truth, and yet didn't get MHO

go figure

[Anonymous]

It is okay