Let's face it people are gonna do it when they are gonna do it there is no law that can change that. All that will achieve is sending people to prison for something as natural as sex. So I say keep the age as it is and educate the youth to value their own bodies and dignity.
No many people have sex from 13 on with peers. Older going for younger rule most places is 18 by then they are aware of most of what life has to offer n how to protect them selves. The states where 16 is the age is questionable personally at 16 I wasn't as mature as 18 so kinda weird someone wants that. Young or old.
By your own logic, your brain isn't developed enough to comprehend or participate in a conversation on this topic, right?
First, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are making broad generalizations based on your own personal emotions and outrage.
Psychiatrists all agree on what a pedophile is and it disagrees with your assumptions.
The proper terms are: Ephebophilia to refer to the sexual preference for mid-to-late adolescents, hebephilia to refer to the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals, and pedophilia to refer to the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children"
This is how misinformation gets turned into public policy.
I don’t need fancy terminology’s a pedophile is still just a pedophile, doesn’t matter which type. And I said that because the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for decision making isn’t fully developed until the age of 21. The prefrontal cortex helps with impulse control/decision making
It's ok to be ignorant if you are willing to educate yourself, but willful ignorance will not serve you well in life. I pasted a direct quote which is the psychiatric standard when categorizing sexual dysfunctions related to persons under 18. Pedo's are very specifically people who are sexually attracted to PREPUBESCENT children.
You can generalize all you want, but you are wrong.
By referring to everyone as pedo's you are inaccurately lumping in normal people with sick people.
It's not opinion that a person who likes pre-pubscent children is sick, it's just fact based on simple biology. It's a mental illness that needs to be addressed.
At the same time, it may be YOUR opinion that a man is sick because he finds a 16 year old girl attractive, but that's your opinion and science and biology don't support it. She's young and fertile and her body is absolutely ready. Our minds are constantly growing (in terms of comprehension and understanding) and I would argue aren't fully developed until 45+ Some more than others too..
So what do you propose, we have an IQ test for clearance to have sex?
Thankyou for exposing yourself as a pedophile, yes you’re weird. Now I understand why you got so defensive over me just calling animals like you pedophiles 🤣 it’s because you are one?
A 16 year old isn’t old enough to have a baby you fucking creep. I hope you’re on a fbi watch list right now.
LOL did I say I date 16 year olds? So now when an adult refers to anyone under 18 as "cute" or "pretty" it's a sexual crime? You are a fucking idiot. Learn to use your brain and stop equating everything with rape and children, mmm'kay?
Seriously, go seek mental counseling because you obviously have either a traumatic experience in your childhood or you are simply a complete nutjob.
Are you slow? You get put on a fbi watchlist for doing suspicious stuff, and a grown ass 51 year old talking about how you find underage girls attractive definitely could get you on that. You’re the one that needs mental help, you’re a pedophile. Living a sad life as a creep, no 51 year old has any business being sexually attracted to a 16 year old. That’s gross, any sane human with more than one functioning brain cell can understand that.
You are about the dumbest fucking idiot I ever met online. Would you mind quoting exactly where I said I was attracted to 16 year olds? I've been quoting textbook psychology and you've been quoting Qanon-grade fear and culture of opinions. No the FBI isn't going to "watch" me because I'm trying to have an honest discussion about underage sex.
Grow the fuck up you stupid little girl. And using your own idealism, YOU probably wouldn't be mentally ready for sex for another 20 years or so. You are an ignorant twat and your cognitive abilities are underdeveloped much like your opinions.
No lower it. It would have been much better in middle school and high school if the guys I was with didn't have to worry about being with me by my choice. I didn't regret it then and I don't regret it now.
If you're 17 you can't sleep with a 19 year old but if you're 18 you can sleep with a 70 year old? wtf sense does that make?
you're a victim. Girl, a 19 year old shouldn't be with a 17 year old. You're literally in highschool, they're in college? They shouldn't have talked to you in the first place?
How am I a victim if I wanted it too? Back in the olden days (like 1800s) girls did it when they were 13 to have babies. What makes now any different? We're the same biological animals.
In the 1800's they had higher rates of marital abuse, miscarriage's (13 year olds bodies are too young to be carrying a baby?) basic biology? You're a victim because a grown man preyed upon you, you were too young and they knew that. They're a bad person. 13 year olds aren't old enough to have babies? physically or mentally. I've heard a lot of disgusting filthy old men with these kinds of beliefs, but a fellow woman? That's new
lol, are you really making a fuss over a 2 year difference? and why do you keep drawing comparisons to learning levels, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
It’s a two year difference but in this specific case a 17 year old is in high school, and a 19 year old is college age. I’m also pretty sure I’m already in a thread with you
You DO understand that children "investigate", adolescents try new things, teens experiment with sex. You can't put a restriction on what children will do. Age of consent is primarily for adults who wish to have sex with underage people. Raising the age of consent doesn't change whether an adult is going to try to have sex with an underage person. All it will do is make those who wish to get married at the age of 17+ illegal.
This article explains what I believe you’re confusing better ^ basically their are laws were teen can engage in that activity with other teens but they’re not able to consent to anyone 18+ still
Difficult subject it's 16 in the uk which is quite young but has been my whole life some places in Europe are as young as 14 which I think is ridiculous but for the most part I think people have sex when they feel ready ( whether they are or not ) so age of consent is kinda mute point
Yes, the human brain continues to develop until a person is in their mid 20's so raise the age for everything until like 25. Age of consent, smoking, drinking, joining the military all of it and mandate it at the National level.
It’s been stated that your brain isn’t fully developed until 25!! It’s crazy and I’ve definitely experienced that under development first hand too many times😂😂 even at 20
I'm wondering why you even asked this question. Many people here have given you their viewpoints and all you do is call them pedophiles and outrage. You seem to be incapable of having a real discussion. You like to claim the moral high ground right? You say your intentions are to protect children when, in fact, all you want is to get some attention and validation.
I know plenty of people being 21 or older - and their ''maturity'' is more than questionable. I do support the idea about protecting 'the young' and 'the vulnerable'. But laws alone will not do the trick, when the overall culture is rotten.
It should be, if that would help, but it wouldn't. Teenagers are already having sex before legal age, but they're closer to it. If you raise it to 21, that won't help anything because they won't listen to it.
that isn't what I'm saying, there are laws for teenagers but they only regard teenagers and teenagers. I'm talking about for example, a lot of pedos the only thing stopping them is the law so if a teen is groomed and turns 18 they aren't old enough to be able to decide. But if it's raised than maybe since 21 is the age the brain is developed it could prevent those grooming cases
doopayo... Pedophiles are adults who prey on 14 and under , not 18 yr olds. Hemaphiles are 14 - 17 . By the way , prosecutors of most all 50 States say a within 5 yr range they won't prosecute if consent was agreeded upon both parties. Age of consent is only for minors or 5 yr range , not anyone else or... some states have either restricted the law more or modified its parameter somewhat. Increasing or decreasing the age of consent or adult configuerment age does nothing in regards to accually protecting future victems. So what's wrong with 18 year olds again?
There’s no difference between pedophiles and hemaphiles in my opinion society just tries to normalize and make hemaphiles seem better than pedophiles and it’s been doing it for years. I’m saying the age of consent should coincide with what biology and psychology shows us and that’s that the human brain isn’t fully developed till 20-21.
Also, a lot of pedos will groom minors and wait till they get out of high school to be in a relationship so I’m just saying if the laws were better on that it could keep that from happening.
Uh, its a very big fucking difference, for one pedophilia refers to sexual attraction to literal children, on the other hand ephebophilia refers to the attraction of at least more sexually mature people, not small children.
The fact that you’re admitting to thinking teenagers are more sexually mature is very alarming. Sexualizing teenagers is weird and just as bad as pedophiles sexualizing children, that’s my point
doopayo... Actually I don't agree to your soicialogical \ phycological view point of who's mature and who isn't and at what age. Age doesn't automatically depict victims either. Age of consent is a priviliage for a teen at a certain age to be granted of they're own decision upon they're own responsibility through choice of they're own accord. . There's a lot of grey area's depending what state your in. Your anxiety of sexual innuendos within our society's or the world around us is a victim mentality. You mention grooming adult teens for sexual activity. (How's that work? ) . And I also see you're trying to say that only same age's should only be with each other.
No because they are still going to have sex anyways. When a young girl wants sex she will go find someone to give it to her. And if she's underage it will surely be with a criminal and there is zero chance its a good upstanding man. I think its mostly about right as it. What i really think needs to be done is teach the kids not to have sex in the first place so soon.
I think that's bullshit. Sure maybe some mentally slow people take longer to reach peak intelligence. But mentally I felt like an adult at around 13/14... I feel no different now to when I did back then, I'm the same person... Jus taller... I don't think we should raise the age for the few mentally slow people to catch up... Because I think the general population are pretty smart and mature by age of 16 17... Generally... Maybe even 15
I don't see the point of these unnecessary rules and restrictions, if it ain't broke don't fix it.. should we raise drinking age to 53? Come. on, we want to live and enjoy life... Fuck these dumb rules and restrictions. You will be missing out on 3 years of great years from your life if we do this. And time is short
Well they say women do not hit thier peaks of age by 21 and men 26-30.
Sooo that might be why you feel that way.
Scientist have actually talked about moving age limits to 26 since a lot of young adults seem to be failing at maturity then past adults. Not finding careers, getting jobs, living apart from home, being able to be a stable adult.
@JustAnj U think that's a good idea? Move it to 26? 26 is a hell of a long. time... most of your life is over by then.. and u want to ban the good parts of life? Stupid scientists
They can say what they want but I'm pretty sure it won't take me til I'm 28 to feel like an adult... I know myself more than anyone and I can tell you my brain was definitely fully developed by 15
What about if 57yr olds are. immature and not finding jobs? Everyone can be immature... I think when u pass adulthood u should be allowed to do it... It doesn't matter how immature you are
Thier not looking at this that simply, it's based on economy views, based on what keeps society going, and a few people do not counter the billions that exist. Higher percentage is more effective then the smaller that are effective already.
The fact is that immaturity plays a part in how stable you can be and grow a family properly to be a stable contributors to society. You can not view this plainly on a field of age but success in providing.
Also I actually think 21 or 23 would be better then 26 honestly.
Nah, from what I know, the parts that develope later have nothing to do with the ability to consent.
Different people mature differently and I think 18 is a standard age.
And, a person who is 18 is an adult, so I don't really understand why it have to do with pedophiles. If a person is physically able to have sex and is mentally able to handle it, that person is good to go. Whether they want relationship or just fuck is a personal choice
Most states lowered the age because courts calendars were filled beyond capacity with cases of 16/17 year old's. A female human is almost always totally ripe and ready for breeding at 16 and their brains are almost fully developed. Its the boys in their lagging just behind brain development that caused the age to be set at 18 in the first place. Biologically speaking males and females should start interacting on every level at 13.
@DianaWest "How much for the little girl?" Movie/ Blues Brothers. Sorry you can't accept the facts/reality. DianaWest. That's a name I've seen being used since the 1990's. The wall has got you now. What's it been 25 years?
No she’s right, you’re a pedophile. Disgusting sub human trash, try testing out your beliefs irl and we’ll both see how quick your ass gets sent to jail and you get murdered in prison. Just like Deandre Austin
And next your going to tell me my IP address is public and expect the FBI to bash down my door with a warrant and arrest me and I'll get killed in prison. Amazes me how you people who have a secret fetish that's illegal find your only release by accusing other people of being pedophiles.
@DianaWest I just checked your age says (15) it is morally wrong to converse with you about this topic. Your not yet old enough to understand what your reading and writing (and it shows) . Legally its fine to talk to you about this. But I am a very moral person so I will avoid you.
That map is wrong about my state. 16 if you're under 18, 17 if you're over 18..
On that same token, no it should be no older or younger than 18. If you're old enough to go to war and fight and die for the country you're old enough for sex.
On that same token you can make all of the laws you wish, and it won't prevent pedos from being pedos, and it won't stop people who are under 18 from having sex. Nothing makes people want to do a thing more than making a rule against it.
there are specific laws for teenagers. raising age of consent won't stop teens it stops adults. and I never said it would stop pedos I said it could prevent groomers from trying to get young people straight out of highschool/in highschool seniors.
And I argued the age of consent should be raised in according to what psychology and biology says about the human brain/development. And getting in the millitary is much more complicated than that, plus the lowest age to join is 17 (with parental consent) not 18.
The problem is all people mature physically and mentally at different ages. I know 16 year old kids with more brains maturity and responsibility than some 40 year olds with spouses and children
They might be mentally mature but that still doesn’t mean they’re fully mature as human brains don’t develop fully till 20-21. Most kids that “mature” faster do so because of trauma and a kid acting mature doesn’t make it right for an adult to pursue. They’re still a kid
He is right, you can't be deployed until you're 18.. At 17 you go through basic and school, until you're 18.. Source, most of my family served. Not that you respect such a thing.
Yeah that kind of thing grosses me out. We met at a concert.. It started snowing really bad, I offered her my bed while I slept on the couch. It grew from there. When my wisdom teeth were killing me, she's the only one that visited me in the hospital, we decided to formalize things after that.
17 year olds aren't fully developed mentally? Thats literally what I stated in the desc 20-21 is the age where humans become fully developed so the only reason a 20 year old would be dating a 17 year old would be because they're a pedophile that potentially grooming a minor.
Attraction to sexually mature adults of any age is not pedophilia. It's normal for adults to find some teens attractive. Traditionally young women were presented as available for marriage at 15 (quinceanera) or 16. The fashion industry regularly employs teen-age models. Pedophilia is an attraction to sexually immature children.
It’s all ambiguous, left to interpretation of the mores of individuals. States try to enact laws that protect but oft go overboard in the wrong direction or miss the mark completely
Not you changing up the definition of pedophilia? This is exactly why I say pedophilia is so normalized in society! If you’re a grown ass man attracted to teenager you’re a pedophile. That’s weird, no grown man should be liking a teen?
And quinceañera aren’t about age of consent? They’re literally just a coming of age tradition that is a little outdated but it’s cultural so don’t be comparing it to no pedo bs. As a Cuban that’s hella disrespectful.
Why do you think the fashion industry does that? The fashion industry has a pedophilic problem, do you know how many times kids have been felt up by creepy photographers? It’s because the industry is corrupt?
All this stuff doesn’t make what you’re saying any less wrong and bad 15 and 16 year olds aren’t adults? And never will be, the brain isn’t fully developed till 20-21 so adulthood in regards to maturity begins at that age
Don't police people about the definition of pedophilia, pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children, meaning kids, meaning under the age of 13-14. At the most you could argue they are ephebophiles which like older teens (15-19), most people by the age of 16 are at their sexual maturity for the most part, 17 is when it starts to become definitive and set in stone, 18 is complete.
I find it funny how we neglect data in growth when it applys to sex.
21 for women and 26 for men. Why is this an issue to begin with. Who cares if an adult can not respectfully have thoughts or sex with someone under the age of 21. It's like saying just cause you can enter me we should be able to have sex. Guys need to chill and enjoy being respectful not predatory. Please know these are learned traits and with the knowledge and intelligence we hold today it's ludicrous to not want the best for kids and teens.
"Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children"
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Let's face it people are gonna do it when they are gonna do it there is no law that can change that. All that will achieve is sending people to prison for something as natural as sex. So I say keep the age as it is and educate the youth to value their own bodies and dignity.
(On a side note what manga character is that?)
No many people have sex from 13 on with peers. Older going for younger rule most places is 18 by then they are aware of most of what life has to offer n how to protect them selves. The states where 16 is the age is questionable personally at 16 I wasn't as mature as 18 so kinda weird someone wants that. Young or old.
I'm mildly disturbed from reading all these opinions 😭💀
Chile I’m VERY disturbed at some of these comments, lol
By your own logic, your brain isn't developed enough to comprehend or participate in a conversation on this topic, right?
First, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are making broad generalizations based on your own personal emotions and outrage.
Psychiatrists all agree on what a pedophile is and it disagrees with your assumptions.
The proper terms are:
Ephebophilia to refer to the sexual preference for mid-to-late adolescents, hebephilia to refer to the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals, and pedophilia to refer to the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children"
This is how misinformation gets turned into public policy.
I don’t need fancy terminology’s a pedophile is still just a pedophile, doesn’t matter which type. And I said that because the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for decision making isn’t fully developed until the age of 21. The prefrontal cortex helps with impulse control/decision making
It's ok to be ignorant if you are willing to educate yourself, but willful ignorance will not serve you well in life. I pasted a direct quote which is the psychiatric standard when categorizing sexual dysfunctions related to persons under 18. Pedo's are very specifically people who are sexually attracted to PREPUBESCENT children.
You can generalize all you want, but you are wrong.
There’s no point in generalizing pedos in my books, I only call them pedos cause it obviously has more weight. No one even uses the word ephebile?
By referring to everyone as pedo's you are inaccurately lumping in normal people with sick people.
It's not opinion that a person who likes pre-pubscent children is sick, it's just fact based on simple biology. It's a mental illness that needs to be addressed.
At the same time, it may be YOUR opinion that a man is sick because he finds a 16 year old girl attractive, but that's your opinion and science and biology don't support it. She's young and fertile and her body is absolutely ready. Our minds are constantly growing (in terms of comprehension and understanding) and I would argue aren't fully developed until 45+ Some more than others too..
So what do you propose, we have an IQ test for clearance to have sex?
Thankyou for exposing yourself as a pedophile, yes you’re weird. Now I understand why you got so defensive over me just calling animals like you pedophiles 🤣 it’s because you are one?
A 16 year old isn’t old enough to have a baby you fucking creep. I hope you’re on a fbi watch list right now.
LOL did I say I date 16 year olds? So now when an adult refers to anyone under 18 as "cute" or "pretty" it's a sexual crime? You are a fucking idiot. Learn to use your brain and stop equating everything with rape and children, mmm'kay?
Seriously, go seek mental counseling because you obviously have either a traumatic experience in your childhood or you are simply a complete nutjob.
Are you slow? You get put on a fbi watchlist for doing suspicious stuff, and a grown ass 51 year old talking about how you find underage girls attractive definitely could get you on that. You’re the one that needs mental help, you’re a pedophile. Living a sad life as a creep, no 51 year old has any business being sexually attracted to a 16 year old. That’s gross, any sane human with more than one functioning brain cell can understand that.
You are about the dumbest fucking idiot I ever met online. Would you mind quoting exactly where I said I was attracted to 16 year olds? I've been quoting textbook psychology and you've been quoting Qanon-grade fear and culture of opinions. No the FBI isn't going to "watch" me because I'm trying to have an honest discussion about underage sex.
Grow the fuck up you stupid little girl. And using your own idealism, YOU probably wouldn't be mentally ready for sex for another 20 years or so. You are an ignorant twat and your cognitive abilities are underdeveloped much like your opinions.
And you are only 15.. you are at the exact age where you know nothing but think you know everything. I'm wasting my time with you and I'm done here.
No lower it. It would have been much better in middle school and high school if the guys I was with didn't have to worry about being with me by my choice. I didn't regret it then and I don't regret it now.
If you're 17 you can't sleep with a 19 year old but if you're 18 you can sleep with a 70 year old? wtf sense does that make?
you're a victim. Girl, a 19 year old shouldn't be with a 17 year old. You're literally in highschool, they're in college? They shouldn't have talked to you in the first place?
How am I a victim if I wanted it too? Back in the olden days (like 1800s) girls did it when they were 13 to have babies. What makes now any different? We're the same biological animals.
In the 1800's they had higher rates of marital abuse, miscarriage's (13 year olds bodies are too young to be carrying a baby?) basic biology? You're a victim because a grown man preyed upon you, you were too young and they knew that. They're a bad person. 13 year olds aren't old enough to have babies? physically or mentally. I've heard a lot of disgusting filthy old men with these kinds of beliefs, but a fellow woman? That's new
lol, are you really making a fuss over a 2 year difference? and why do you keep drawing comparisons to learning levels, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
It’s a two year difference but in this specific case a 17 year old is in high school, and a 19 year old is college age. I’m also pretty sure I’m already in a thread with you
They have a big mental gap/maturity gap which can open doors for possibly predatory behavior is what I’m saying
The way you think is hella messed up 💀
@TheOracle10 -- so if i'm 15 and he's 17 it's ok, but if i'm 16 and he's 18 i'm a victim? and if i'm 18 and he's 100 that's ok again?
You DO understand that children "investigate", adolescents try new things, teens experiment with sex. You can't put a restriction on what children will do. Age of consent is primarily for adults who wish to have sex with underage people. Raising the age of consent doesn't change whether an adult is going to try to have sex with an underage person. All it will do is make those who wish to get married at the age of 17+ illegal.
The age of Consent and what you’re talking about are two different things, I’m not talking about that.
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This article explains what I believe you’re confusing better ^ basically their are laws were teen can engage in that activity with other teens but they’re not able to consent to anyone 18+ still
Difficult subject it's 16 in the uk which is quite young but has been my whole life some places in Europe are as young as 14 which I think is ridiculous but for the most part I think people have sex when they feel ready ( whether they are or not ) so age of consent is kinda mute point
Yes, the human brain continues to develop until a person is in their mid 20's so raise the age for everything until like 25. Age of consent, smoking, drinking, joining the military all of it and mandate it at the National level.
It’s been stated that your brain isn’t fully developed until 25!! It’s crazy and I’ve definitely experienced that under development first hand too many times😂😂 even at 20
I'm wondering why you even asked this question. Many people here have given you their viewpoints and all you do is call them pedophiles and outrage. You seem to be incapable of having a real discussion. You like to claim the moral high ground right? You say your intentions are to protect children when, in fact, all you want is to get some attention and validation.
I only call the grown men talking about underage girls pedophiles?
I know plenty of people being 21 or older - and their ''maturity'' is more than questionable.
I do support the idea about protecting 'the young' and 'the vulnerable'.
But laws alone will not do the trick, when the overall culture is rotten.
It should be, if that would help, but it wouldn't. Teenagers are already having sex before legal age, but they're closer to it. If you raise it to 21, that won't help anything because they won't listen to it.
Changing laws isn’t going to stop pedophiles. Nor is it going to stop teenagers from bumping uglies.
that isn't what I'm saying, there are laws for teenagers but they only regard teenagers and teenagers. I'm talking about for example, a lot of pedos the only thing stopping them is the law so if a teen is groomed and turns 18 they aren't old enough to be able to decide. But if it's raised than maybe since 21 is the age the brain is developed it could prevent those grooming cases
i know it isn't a 100% solution but it's a start
doopayo... Pedophiles are adults who prey on 14 and under , not 18 yr olds. Hemaphiles are 14 - 17 . By the way , prosecutors of most all 50 States say a within 5 yr range they won't prosecute if consent was agreeded upon both parties. Age of consent is only for minors or 5 yr range , not anyone else or... some states have either restricted the law more or modified its parameter somewhat. Increasing or decreasing the age of consent or adult configuerment age does nothing in regards to accually protecting future victems. So what's wrong with 18 year olds again?
There’s no difference between pedophiles and hemaphiles in my opinion society just tries to normalize and make hemaphiles seem better than pedophiles and it’s been doing it for years. I’m saying the age of consent should coincide with what biology and psychology shows us and that’s that the human brain isn’t fully developed till 20-21.
Also, a lot of pedos will groom minors and wait till they get out of high school to be in a relationship so I’m just saying if the laws were better on that it could keep that from happening.
Uh, its a very big fucking difference, for one pedophilia refers to sexual attraction to literal children, on the other hand ephebophilia refers to the attraction of at least more sexually mature people, not small children.
The fact that you’re admitting to thinking teenagers are more sexually mature is very alarming. Sexualizing teenagers is weird and just as bad as pedophiles sexualizing children, that’s my point
Society is normalizing this crap, if you’re ok with sexualizing teenagers than soon society’s gonna start going for even younger
doopayo... Actually I don't agree to your soicialogical \ phycological view point of who's mature and who isn't and at what age. Age doesn't automatically depict victims either. Age of consent is a priviliage for a teen at a certain age to be granted of they're own decision upon they're own responsibility through choice of they're own accord. . There's a lot of grey area's depending what state your in. Your anxiety of sexual innuendos within our society's or the world around us is a victim mentality. You mention grooming adult teens for sexual activity. (How's that work? ) . And I also see you're trying to say that only same age's should only be with each other.
No because they are still going to have sex anyways. When a young girl wants sex she will go find someone to give it to her. And if she's underage it will surely be with a criminal and there is zero chance its a good upstanding man. I think its mostly about right as it. What i really think needs to be done is teach the kids not to have sex in the first place so soon.
I think that's bullshit. Sure maybe some mentally slow people take longer to reach peak intelligence. But mentally I felt like an adult at around 13/14... I feel no different now to when I did back then, I'm the same person... Jus taller... I don't think we should raise the age for the few mentally slow people to catch up... Because I think the general population are pretty smart and mature by age of 16 17... Generally... Maybe even 15
I don't see the point of these unnecessary rules and restrictions, if it ain't broke don't fix it.. should we raise drinking age to 53? Come. on, we want to live and enjoy life... Fuck these dumb rules and restrictions. You will be missing out on 3 years of great years from your life if we do this. And time is short
What age did you feel like a adult?
Did it really take you tol your was 21 to feel matured?
Ask yourself that
Maybe I'm jus smarter than most and grew up fast. But honestly can't feel a difference in my head from now to back when I was 13
Well they say women do not hit thier peaks of age by 21 and men 26-30.
Sooo that might be why you feel that way.
Scientist have actually talked about moving age limits to 26 since a lot of young adults seem to be failing at maturity then past adults. Not finding careers, getting jobs, living apart from home, being able to be a stable adult.
They don't hit peak until*** I need to turn off my auto correct lol
@JustAnj U think that's a good idea? Move it to 26? 26 is a hell of a long. time... most of your life is over by then.. and u want to ban the good parts of life?
Stupid scientists
They can say what they want but I'm pretty sure it won't take me til I'm 28 to feel like an adult... I know myself more than anyone and I can tell you my brain was definitely fully developed by 15
What about if 57yr olds are. immature and not finding jobs?
Everyone can be immature... I think when u pass adulthood u should be allowed to do it... It doesn't matter how immature you are
Thier not looking at this that simply, it's based on economy views, based on what keeps society going, and a few people do not counter the billions that exist. Higher percentage is more effective then the smaller that are effective already.
The fact is that immaturity plays a part in how stable you can be and grow a family properly to be a stable contributors to society. You can not view this plainly on a field of age but success in providing.
Also I actually think 21 or 23 would be better then 26 honestly.
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Also, in my opinion, the age of 18 is OK.
Nah, from what I know, the parts that develope later have nothing to do with the ability to consent.
Different people mature differently and I think 18 is a standard age.
And, a person who is 18 is an adult, so I don't really understand why it have to do with pedophiles.
If a person is physically able to have sex and is mentally able to handle it, that person is good to go. Whether they want relationship or just fuck is a personal choice
Most states lowered the age because courts calendars were filled beyond capacity with cases of 16/17 year old's. A female human is almost always totally ripe and ready for breeding at 16 and their brains are almost fully developed. Its the boys in their lagging just behind brain development that caused the age to be set at 18 in the first place. Biologically speaking males and females should start interacting on every level at 13.
okay pedo.
@DianaWest "How much for the little girl?" Movie/ Blues Brothers. Sorry you can't accept the facts/reality. DianaWest. That's a name I've seen being used since the 1990's. The wall has got you now. What's it been 25 years?
No she’s right, you’re a pedophile. Disgusting sub human trash, try testing out your beliefs irl and we’ll both see how quick your ass gets sent to jail and you get murdered in prison. Just like Deandre Austin
And next your going to tell me my IP address is public and expect the FBI to bash down my door with a warrant and arrest me and I'll get killed in prison. Amazes me how you people who have a secret fetish that's illegal find your only release by accusing other people of being pedophiles.
Your sick
@Fuentes Doopayo sure is. Sick people always getting off calling people things they are.
No man you are sick where do you stay
@Fuentes Give it up. It doesn't work on me.
Ok where do you stay i wanna meet with you fist to face
Ayyye I’m coming to the fight to record this dumbass pedo getting beat up
@DianaWest I just checked your age says (15) it is morally wrong to converse with you about this topic. Your not yet old enough to understand what your reading and writing (and it shows) . Legally its fine to talk to you about this. But I am a very moral person so I will avoid you.
Look at the creep backdialing you better run sicko, when you end up in prison your not gonna like it
Fr, dude over here admitted he finds 13 year olds attractive? I bet this mfs on some type of fbi watch list now
@doopayo He never said that he's attracted to 13 year olds? He simply stated it's okay for a 13 yo boy and a 13 yo girl to interact sexually.
@Xumatro your sicckself made a whole brand new acc today to defend yourself disgusting just disgusting
@ Xumatro can you not read?
That map is wrong about my state. 16 if you're under 18, 17 if you're over 18..
On that same token, no it should be no older or younger than 18. If you're old enough to go to war and fight and die for the country you're old enough for sex.
On that same token you can make all of the laws you wish, and it won't prevent pedos from being pedos, and it won't stop people who are under 18 from having sex. Nothing makes people want to do a thing more than making a rule against it.
there are specific laws for teenagers. raising age of consent won't stop teens it stops adults. and I never said it would stop pedos I said it could prevent groomers from trying to get young people straight out of highschool/in highschool seniors.
And I argued the age of consent should be raised in according to what psychology and biology says about the human brain/development. And getting in the millitary is much more complicated than that, plus the lowest age to join is 17 (with parental consent) not 18.
i know what you're saying and i agree to an extent, just nothing older than 18
also your state laws probably changed, the maps from 2016
My state has been like that since i was born.
The problem is all people mature physically and mentally at different ages. I know 16 year old kids with more brains maturity and responsibility than some 40 year olds with spouses and children
They might be mentally mature but that still doesn’t mean they’re fully mature as human brains don’t develop fully till 20-21. Most kids that “mature” faster do so because of trauma and a kid acting mature doesn’t make it right for an adult to pursue. They’re still a kid
Joining at 17 is to prepare for training, you can't be deployed at 17.
What?
He is right, you can't be deployed until you're 18.. At 17 you go through basic and school, until you're 18.. Source, most of my family served. Not that you respect such a thing.
And by your logic, I'm a pedo, because I met and started dating my wife when she was 19, we married when she was 21 and I was 30..
I’ve already explained as long as you didn’t groom her the relationship should be fine
Yeah that kind of thing grosses me out. We met at a concert.. It started snowing really bad, I offered her my bed while I slept on the couch. It grew from there. When my wisdom teeth were killing me, she's the only one that visited me in the hospital, we decided to formalize things after that.
Maybe, but with close-in-age exceptions. We don't want to prosecute a 20-year-old for having sex with a 17-year-old, but 24 and 16? Maybe we do.
No? a 20 year old with a 17 year old is gross. 20 year olds are literally in college? 17 is a highschool senior-junior?
17 year olds aren't fully developed mentally? Thats literally what I stated in the desc
20-21 is the age where humans become fully developed so the only reason a 20 year old would be dating a 17 year old would be because they're a pedophile that potentially grooming a minor.
Attraction to sexually mature adults of any age is not pedophilia. It's normal for adults to find some teens attractive. Traditionally young women were presented as available for marriage at 15 (quinceanera) or 16. The fashion industry regularly employs teen-age models. Pedophilia is an attraction to sexually immature children.
It’s all ambiguous, left to interpretation of the mores of individuals. States try to enact laws that protect but oft go overboard in the wrong direction or miss the mark completely
Not you changing up the definition of pedophilia? This is exactly why I say pedophilia is so normalized in society! If you’re a grown ass man attracted to teenager you’re a pedophile. That’s weird, no grown man should be liking a teen?
And quinceañera aren’t about age of consent? They’re literally just a coming of age tradition that is a little outdated but it’s cultural so don’t be comparing it to no pedo bs. As a Cuban that’s hella disrespectful.
Why do you think the fashion industry does that? The fashion industry has a pedophilic problem, do you know how many times kids have been felt up by creepy photographers? It’s because the industry is corrupt?
All this stuff doesn’t make what you’re saying any less wrong and bad 15 and 16 year olds aren’t adults? And never will be, the brain isn’t fully developed till 20-21 so adulthood in regards to maturity begins at that age
Don't police people about the definition of pedophilia, pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children, meaning kids, meaning under the age of 13-14. At the most you could argue they are ephebophiles which like older teens (15-19), most people by the age of 16 are at their sexual maturity for the most part, 17 is when it starts to become definitive and set in stone, 18 is complete.
I find it funny how we neglect data in growth when it applys to sex.
21 for women and 26 for men. Why is this an issue to begin with. Who cares if an adult can not respectfully have thoughts or sex with someone under the age of 21. It's like saying just cause you can enter me we should be able to have sex. Guys need to chill and enjoy being respectful not predatory. Please know these are learned traits and with the knowledge and intelligence we hold today it's ludicrous to not want the best for kids and teens.
You are the one changing the definition. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
"Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children"
@JustAnj exactly.
How you were able to look at her jumble of words tied together into a cryptic message and say "exactly." is beyond me.