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+1 yOh, you know it will happen. When tyranny is applied that broadly it will invoke a response and they know it. Most of the military and local law enforcement will not comply because their oath does not lie with a dictator. If they attempt Marshall Law, this alone will put all on alert. Too many are "woke" on the covid-vaccine fraud now to allow forced dissemination. This is more evident by the simple fact that all MSM outlets have dropped viewership by >60% in the last six months. CNN, lol, is below 700k a day. People are unplugging from the matrix and beginning slowly to respond. FYI: Do yourself a favor and look at this video. This is it all taken from US Patent and Trade Office (PTO) tracking, the most credible thing I have seen. “A Manufactured Illusion. Dr David Martin with Dr. Reiner Fuwllmich” 7/9/21. It is still up (7/29), so grab it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/L3zryn6Hm86m/ This explains how big pharma and MSM coordinated it all and is continuing. All covid and vaccines traced as early as ~2001, are in the public PTO record including the “variant.” This is the greatest fraud and crime committed against humanity ever.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI think it's pretty clear that is a boundary that the Joke Biden administration wishes they could breach-- made obvious by their screeching anti-gun rants and attempted "confiscation by legislation". There's a reason we learned that throughout history, whenever a tyrannical dictator finds his way into office, one of his top priorities is to disarm the public so they have no choice but to bend over for the regime.
It should be fairly obvious that for now at least, forced vaccinations won't happen without a fight. Perhaps this is the reason Bidumb is pushing for businesses to require them. There they go again, fucking with small business. I hope everyone remembers this during election time. Businesses should have a choice just as individuals should have the choice. When the government is actively seeking to take away as many choices as they can, the people will stand against it in a land that values freedom above all else.
I want to point out that the "conservative" side believes heavily that violence should be a last resort. That's the reason you haven't seen streets full of conservatives rioting in the streets for the last year and a half, causing billions of dollars in damages, and loss of life, in contrast to Slow Biden's liberal groups.00 Reply
+1 ySeriously dude? You realize there are real problems in the world right? Like why are you actively trying to make shit even worse for everyone?
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Your opinion that people with pre existing conditions who are also out of shape shouldn't receive any kind of treatment nor people who don't get the vaccine due to their doctors finding that their chances of dying from the vaccine are far higher than from the virus and the fact that you own guns yet vote for the people who want to take them away from law abiding citizens.
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301 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes. And I already got the vaccine but this is America I don’t gotta do shit but stay white and die.
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+1 yPA law says that the full CDC recommended schedule of vaccinations is required for all children. That law has been on the books for 15+ years. The religious exemption was removed nearly 10 years ago, and a child cannot attend public school without being up-to-date on their vaccinations.
Nobody in PA took up arms and started firing because of it.
Your outrage is manipulated and manufactured. Stop letting your chosen sources of media dictate to you how you are supposed to feel about things.
The Constitution of the USA clearly specifies:
"Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare"
Does getting vaccinated to stop spreading disease count? Yes to both.02 Reply
Asker+1 yObviously you didn't properly read the question.
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The problem is that I did, then I commented in a fashion that calls out your propaganda for what it is.
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+1 yYep! I'm not afraid of the vaccine, I just do not tolerate people trying to force me to do their bidding. I do not tolerate authoritarianism (which always comes in the guise of whats best for the group, what is best for you (they think it makes oppression more palatable this way I guess).
10 Reply 4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Absolutely, the boys in blue wouldn't do that no matter what, the constitution is just as important to them as it is to me, it's the federal agents who are the problem and they know damn well what's going to happen if they show up at my house, which is why they don't do it.
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+1 yI would pick up my guns and use them in self defense against the ANTI-VAXX idiots. If you get too close to me and don't wear a mask regardless of vax status I will defend myself. I will defend my family.
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Asker+1 ySame goes for you. Any brainwashed moron tries to push an experimental vaccine on me, it will be a fight to the death.
3.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes we would we don’t like being forced to do anything. Even I someone who is vaccinated and thinks people should get vaccinated would pick up a gun and fight for the rights of people who don’t want the vaccine it’s there choice leave them alone
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+1 yPeople: you should get vaccinated so you don't die or kill the vulnerable
You: WHERES MY GUN THESE PSYCOPATHS ARE TRYING TO KEEP ME ALIVE236 Reply
Asker+1 yThe problem is that the vaccine is for population reduction, not about saving lives. The psycopaths don't wanrt to keep us alive, they want to kill us. Anybody who supports forced vaccination should be killed or locked behind bars.
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If it was for population reduction millions of people would already be dead... You know like how millions of people have died from covid...
Asker+1 yWell thousands of people have already died from the vaccine, which you would know if you had researched it. And millions of people have not died from covid. That's fake news. If everybody stared dying all at once then the rest of society wouldn't get vaccinated. For most people the vaccine will be a slow death, or destroy their fertility.
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In the usa after millions of doses there has only been like 3 deaths linked to the vaccine. So no thousands of people have not died which you would know if YOU did your research.
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According to VAERS over 4000 deaths. There's been countless deaths and 100000s of injuries, and these are only the ones that have been reported.
There have been perfectly healthy children who have died:
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...cond-Covid-vaccine.html
Or have been disabled:
odysee.com/.../Prress-Conference-For-12-Year-Old-In-Wheelchair-from-Vaccine-Hugo-Talks-Some-More--lockdown:3
There's thought to be an under-reporting according to official sources of only 10% or less of all cases.
We don't know how many will die into the long term as we simply don't have the data to determine that. For all we know it will be 100% of people who have had the vaccines.
Just because the evidence doesn't accord with your political persuasion, it doesn't mean you can stick your fingers in your ears like the chimp in my avatar. With the greatest of respect. This shouldn't be a politicised debate. - +1 y
I take it you didn't read the two pages of disclaimers before opening the VAERS database. You know where it says that any death after a vaccine is reported and that anyone can report to it? Any death as in died in a car accident. It's not a database that shows cause of death.
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Okay, so you think its okay to force people to do what YOU want them to do? Does this apply to you then? That is casual sex is proven to be psychologically and potentially physically damaging to women therefore the government should come in and force you and other women to not have that right? Also alcohol and smoking (anything) is bad for you so the government should be allowed to beat you down and arrest you if you do these things? Or is it that you think its okay because you think that they won't come for you if you give them the power to decide what is best for other people ( a very foolish notion)?
Also people have died from the vaccine, women are suffering menstrual issues because of it (potentially sterility though not enough research has been done to find out as of yet), its caused paralasis (usually temporary) in certain people with conditions, and the companies and government and you are not liable to come in and pay for the cost of fixing these things, to pay those people who couldn't work because of being dibilitated because of the vaccine. So why do you get to decide that this is an acceptable risk for them and what will your response be when it comes to you? I mean I'm guessing your going to be real up in arms for many policies that go against your principles and I highly doubt your going to let them make life decisions for you so why do you get to do that for others? - +1 y
@hellionthesagereborn As I've said before, tyranny doesn't seem to bother people when they are in the majority.
There have been cases recently of people having to crowd fund their medical bills. I've seen some cases where they require $500000 to pay for their hospital expenses, which is a nice little cherry on top of their horrific injuries and near death experiences. Thankfully, at least we don't have to worry about huge hospital bills with the NHS here, although I doubt this is sustainable. Of course, the manufacturers are not liable. And by all accounts, it is extremely difficult to claim from the government, also. - +1 y
@Levin " tyranny doesn't seem to bother people when they are in the majority." Very true. The strange part is that they always seem to think they will remain in the majority forever which is never the case. They also love to use "its for your own good/its what is best for the group" arguments because it makes the authoritarianism seem almost humanitarian and thus more palitable (I think its a rationalization on their part because its never for the persons own good, its never for the good of the group/whole, its always in the self interest of that individual authoritarian).
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No I don't think it's ok to force people. The government wouldn't ever Force people. My point is people will say that others are trying to force them to get the vaccine when really we are just suggesting you do what's right. The most the government van do is allow businesses to ban unvaccinated people from entering their premises.
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“While fertility was not specifically studied in the clinical trials of the vaccine, no loss of fertility has been reported among trial participants or among the millions who have received the vaccines since their authorization, and no signs of infertility appeared in animal studies. Loss of fertility is scientifically unlikely.”
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The vaccine doesn't stay in your body forever so it will not cause some random issue in 10 years time. It's only job is to go in and tell your immune system how to fight covid then it gets flushed out of your body.
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"The most the government van do is allow businesses to ban unvaccinated people from entering their premises."
All i want to add here is this is their absolute right to refuse unvaccinated people from going in their businesses too. so these trumptards better realize that before they think about attacking this point. - +1 y
"VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, ***VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness.*** "
"Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause."
"VAERS data do not represent all known safety information for a vaccine and should be interpreted in the context of other scientific information."
You literally have to click I have read the disclaimer twice before entering and you missed all that 😬 - +1 y
Lmao. Imagine being alive in July 2021, and still believing the government cares about your health and safety. Must be weird.
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Lmao i wonder how the government gets their money 🤔
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Its funny, because your pointing out the flaw in the study i. e. they are counting deaths after the vaccine rather then whether or not the vaccine caused it, YET when it comes to the virus you ignore the disclaimer given by the NIH and CDC stating that they where taking a liberal approach to counting covid victims and thus anyone who died who had covid was labeled as having died from the disease which then artificially inflated the numbers (and resulted in the CDC having to later point out that in the US almost all the deaths listed where from comorbidites i. e. some one had lung cancer and died but also tested positive for covid) making the death toll in the tens of thousands (about 40 -50,000 give or take compared to the hundreds of thousands listed (again, according to the CDC itself)).
So this shows that your not incappable of critical thinking, your just incappable of being critical of your own tribe, ideology, and you cannot self reflect. Strange how one decides when to and when not to engage in thinking.
As for the government not forcing people. . . . they already are. The VA is already mandating it, the government is refusing to sign a bill that would make vaccine passports created by the government illegal, have actively implicated that they desire said passports, and several governors have stated they will force people to take it, one stating that the time for choice was over and that they needed to mandate the vaccine. So what your saying is incorrect, its not that they don't want to do it, its just a matter of whether or not they think they can get away with it and many believe they can get away with it.
Also if your demanding that people get vaccinated against their will (and again, you have no idea what the stats are because the mortality rate for almost all age demographics is.007%), your not trying to help them your trying to control them. Your the authoritarian in that situation and the oppressor not the good guy. - +1 y
What study? Never talked about a study...
Can you provide a link for this disclaimer?
Nobody is being forced to take the vaccine. There can be consequences for not taking the vaccine, like losing your job, not being able to enter a business or get on a flight. That isn't forcing you to get the vaccine it's just a repercussion of not getting it.
I'm not demanding anyone get the vaccine. Merely suggesting it.
P. s. I really struggle to take anyone seriously who struggles with simple grammar. - +1 y
Sure, but would you read it? No. You would dismiss it and claim its wrong because it doesn't go with your narrative of reality (because your feelings are far more important then a pesky insignificant thing like reality). Go to the CDC website, they list the mortality rate, they have amended the numbers.
www.msn.com/.../ar-BB18wrA7
But like I said you will read into what ever you want so long as it fits your preexisting narrative. Studies have shown that providing evidence that some one is wrong doesn't make them change their mind, it just makes them more certain that they are right despite the evidence. Your not going to be any different.
As for forcing people, well yes, they are they are saying that you do not get to have food or shelter if you do not comply. You do not get to have a life if you do not comply. I mean techincally your not forced to do anything, you can choose to go to prison instead of paying your taxes, hell you can even choose to be shot by a police officer if you refuse to go to prison for not paying your taxes so if you want to be technical sure no one is being forced to do anything and no one ever will because you cannot control people no matter how much you may want to.
As for the not taking me seriously for grammer, if all the most famous writers in the world managed to get by with poor grammer and spelling (F. Scott Fitzgerald, Hemmingway, Agatha Christie, jane austin, even presidents like George Washington), then I feel I can live with my poor spelling and grammer.
Also, you act as if your approval or respect is in any way meaningful to me. To clarify, it is not. - +1 y
I do have to say that something curious is happening. Or perhaps it has always happened but we just never noticed it before. Reality and facts no longer matter. Reality is determined by a kind of collective consciousness, to which most people are wholly passive. The construct as unconsciously imposed upon us frames our reality, and the bounds of potentiality. When we are children our potential feels limitless, but slowly and surely as adults, our sense of what is achievable by the year dwindles, until we fall deeper and deeper into a hopeless kind of morass. Finally we're left clambering over each other for what scraps we can get, what extra pay we can get, what shred of material comfort, what pension scheme.
That's why 'evidence' provided in a funny sort of way, is a waste of time. So long as one's prejudices and paradigm inbuilt filters see it as a kind of noise that can't be processed within the context of the 'true' reality.
Again, people need to learn the hard way, through bitter experience. This is part of the reason why people can't understand anything else until something horrible or extremely shocking happens to them. The destruction of the ego and one's sense of truth is too unbearable for most people, or at least as a prospect to take on lightly.
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There was an interesting article in the offguardian a few months ago incidentally, about what reality is in modern times. One consequence of the gaslighting and 180 about uturns that we've seen over the past few years, past decade even, under Trumpism too, is that reality no longer has a fixed quality, a firm foundation, or any kind of underpinning facts that we can be secure in. This makes it even easier for the powers that be to frame and distort reality for their own ends. Some of the things that we've heard during this pandemic have been so laughable and patently false, that the phrase 'beneath our dignity to even respond to that' should be our immediate go to response, instead of getting sucked into their tricks and games. - +1 y
That article doesn't say what you claimed. Everyone knows that people with underlying health conditions are more at risk of dying from covid. Covid isn't written as the cause of death if it simply wasn't. There will be multiple things listed as the cause of death, what the person who decides has to think of is If this person didn't get covid would they still be alive. But again that simply saying most deaths are people with underlying health conditions. Even the people without underlying health conditions is a lot of people, considering you are in theory afraid of a vaccine that has "killed 7000" people (again it hasn't, bit if that number were true most of those people would have underlying conditions) but not afraid of a virus that has killed according to that article at the time 9000 otherwise healthy people.
Listen to experts, it's insane to thing the government, scientists and health authorities world wide are conspiring or lying to us. Half the countries don't even like eachother it doesn't make sense. I just want people to be healthy and to stop fucking dying from a preventable illness. I don't want to have to fucking worry about my friends who have health conditions. And call me selfish but for goodness sake I don't want my surgery pushed back even further because of covid. - +1 y
The Western sickcare system keeps people sick in perpetuity. It has failed to keep people truly healthy before covid, there is definitely no reason to trust it now.
It's each of our moral duty and responsibility to keep asking questions of scientists, governments, academics, and their overall response, especially when they have been patently insane. This is an interesting article that has some very good points about just how ineffectual and ludicrous these so called experts have been. We have to question and think critically to hold these kinds of institutions and individuals to account. It is a part of democracy, not some kind of conspiracy.
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@Levin interesting site you got there
here's what I found on their about page “ The temptation when debunking ‘the Science’ behind these policies is to see sinister cabals at work, bent on some secret plot to subvert democratic institutions and usher in a New World Order in which they control every aspect of our lives. ”
So yeah… hi Qanoner - +1 y
@Still-alive Which site?
I'm running on little sleep, but if I've understood you correctly then really, A. you haven't read the article (since it was more than reasonable), and B. that's a poor strawman which cheapens your position. - +1 y
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@Still-alive thedailysceptic? Yes, it's an opinion piece. Did you read it? Can you read it and then tell me what you find unreasonable about it, please?
Everybody has an agenda, we've found that out much to our cost the past 18 months.
There's no problem with people asking critical questions, questioning policy, it's a normal function of science and democracy. Demonising people who ask questions, strawmanning them is the kind of tactics authoritarian governments have used for probably, millennia. - +1 y
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I mean I agree there's nothing wrong with questioning things about the vaccine, I was skeptical at first but then I read about it a lot and learned to just trust the experts in this case. There's not really any hard evidence for the vaccine being bad and at this point we are well aware of the long term side effects. (Vaccine long term side effects don't really go past 6 months as the vaccine doesn't stay in your body that long)
Asker+1 y@Still-alive Then businsesses should also be allowed to ban vaccinated people.
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absolutely and we have the right to never go there ever
Asker+1 yYou're as dumb as a rock.
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@asker lol why cause i believe in free agency? you right wingers do it all the time.
Asker+1 y@Still-alive Absolutely, just as the unvaccinated don't have to go to businesses that won't allow them in.
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cool so im not dumb as rocks then? since you are advocating the same principle?
Anonymous(36-45)+1 y" Psychopaths pushing the vaccine" ?>?
How about you morons who don't want it?
Let me ask you this - If Trumptard were President and TOLD YOU to take the vaccine because it's safe, you'd do it, wouldn't it? Sure you would. And yes, I do assume you're a trumper.00 ReplyThis guy has the general sentiment down...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/foR5kBVONDbJ/00 Reply11.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nope. I believe in and trust the science. Besides I already got it by choice, no need to force it.
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Asker+1 yThat wasn't the question. I guess the vaccine has prevented you from being able to read.
27.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It is really sad that it has to come to this but if I had no choice I would have to take somebody's life to protect my own.
10 ReplyNo, since I'm relatively pro-vaccine.
There are other issues I could see fighting against violently.00 Reply411 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. FBI? Is that you? Trying to organize violence and the pin it on some hapless dupe, again?
10 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Hey Liberals! If these psychopaths keep refusing the vaccination for no real reason whatsoever, should we invade and force inject them with our science?
No? We liberals are pro-bodily autonomy? And we’re for personal choices? Damn!04 Reply- +1 y
Except they are not as they are advocating for it and democrat governors (because your not liberal) have actually begun pushing it on officials and public workers. They have also been calling for vaccine passports to force people to take it just so they can live. So what your saying flies in the face of reality (I really don't know why leftist refuse to call out their own side. You would think that their was something, just one thing you could criticise them about and yet even when they state things that are in direct conflict with your expressed beliefs, still you defend them and act like they are not doing exactly what others and they themselves say they are doing).
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@hellionthesagereborn you don’t have to be a public worker or imbibe public businesses. you're confusing vax mandates for doing business in public with plain old “forced vaccinations”.
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Not at all, your just trying desperately to down play the situation so that you can keep telling yourself that your the good guy, your team is good. Its not true but your desperate to believe it. They have mandated workers be vaxinated, they have talked about vaccine passports and the government rejected a bill that would make it illegal for the US to allow for the use of vaccine passports. So I'm not mistaken, I'm not confusing anything, I'm just rejecting your claims as they are patently false.
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@hellionthesagereborn Yeah. No one is forcing their way into your home. But the govt has the right to tell you to get fcking vaxxed once you step outside.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yyes, i voluntarily got vaccinated but if they were attempting to force me they I would use deadly force to stop them
20 Reply4.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. At that point something is obviously very wrong with whatever they're trying to inject me with so I would fight with lethal force.
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+1 yYes, and im well armed.. On a side note though i am already vaccinated.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWith attitudes like this, it is no wonder the USA is fucked.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThe communist Biden regime is already heading in that direction.
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+1 yI would take the vaccine first because you cannot win against the state when it becomes that oppressive, better to live chipped than shot
00 Reply 4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Look at france? People will do worst than just pick their guns and fight.
10 ReplyI'd come out guns blazing
10 Reply4.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well i hot both shots after France i think anything possible
00 Reply662 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That would never happen
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+1 yI already took the vaccine by choice
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+1 yI will refuse and go to jail
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yId use my fucking hands
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+1 yYup.
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