Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been corrupted by feminism.[2] The community is a part of the manosphere, a collection of anti-feminist websites and online communities that also includes the men's rights movement, incels, and pickup artists.[3]
MGTOW logo as shown in episode "Men at War" of the BBC series Reggie Yates' Extreme UK[1] Like other manosphere communities, MGTOW overlaps with the alt-right and white supremacistmovements,[4] and it has been implicated in online harassment of women.[5] The Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes MGTOW as a part of the male supremacist ideology.[6]
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Since everyone is giving me a hard time that I used a Wikipedia description here are a few other sources that describe what MGTOW at the top of my search results. Personally the Urban Dictionary description is my favorite. Lol
"Feminism is an anti-male, misandrist, mostly unsuccessful community advocating for unsuccessful women to gain power, privileges, and perks from society without earning it, working for it, or being worth of it. The community is a part of social justice, a collection of self-described 'marginalized' people, typically from upper middle class, First World backgrounds, that also includes Communists, Marxists, and far-left Progressive extremists such as ANTIFA. No feminist has ever done anything beneficial or positive for society, and especially for women."
To answer your question: No. There's no group leader and they don't do anything harmful or dangerous to anyone in society. ... And Wikipedia has been propaganda trash for a while now.
And only extremely insecure women would dislike a group that selectively CHOOSES not to interact with women, or reproduce. That should literally be what every feminist wants (aside from the men not being miserable and slaves to Karens, that is). I'm not MGTOW, but anyone who hates MGTOW is saying more about their insecurity to how other men choose to live their own lives, then they are about the group they foolishly dislike for no reason.
@Friendlybro79 Harriet Tubman wasn't a feminist, especially since feminism was exclusively for (upper class) white women. The founders of feminism used Fredrick Douglass, a prominent 19th century black man, as a prop, stating how they as white women were superior to a "colored man." Hell, they didn't even make intersectionality a thing until fourth wave, which only began in 2012, and that was mostly because of Bell Hooks and her anti-male bullsh*t.
I don't know about a cult. It's too decentralized be called that I think. But it is full of bigotry and hate speech against women. Speaking as a man, it's a lot of fucking whining. So they've had bad experiences with women. Well for fuck's sakes what man hasn't? I lived with Jezebel herself for three years. She bankrupted me and caused me a truckload of problems. She came straight from the pits of hell. But when it was all over and I finally got out of it, I didn't declare all women to be worthless cunts nor did I proclaim that I was only gonna fuck hookers from then on. Nope, I picked up the pieces, started over, and rebuilt my life because that's what a MAN does. Then I found better women to hook up with and believe me they're out there. There's plenty of women out there who are stable-minded, patient, altrustic, faithful, and who want to treat a man right. But a man has to believe that if he wants to find one. He has to look at women positively if he really wants one. If he believes what MGTOW does about them, he'll always be alone. I think this movement is unbecoming of men. It's retarded.
Not quite. It certainly has some cult-like characteristics - like the misstatement of facts and the encouragement of self-isolation, but they're not organized enough to be a cult yet.
Wikipedia generally isn't a reliable source for actual information. Anyone can edit Wikipedia.
As for "MGTOW", it doesn't really qualify as a cult, because there's no leader, and there's no group, club, or organization to join. I believe the idea is you're a just heterosexual man that ignores women and dating. Of course that doesn't mean that there's never any cult-like behavior from some individuals, because nothing is ever an absolute. So I'm sure it happens occasionally. Also, I'm pretty sure that political affiliation or voting habits has nothing to do with it at all.
Anyway, if there are really that many heterosexual men that want nothing to do with women, good for them... and, more importantly, good for me. Why? Well that just leaves me more women to choose from. 😉👍😂
Well actually, Wikipedia is run by lunatics on the far left, so no one but them can *successfully* and permanently edit Wikipedia. But your overall point is valid.
Maybe not so much a cult as a possible hate group. I do t know much about these things, I’m trying to close the distances between me and women, but it sounds to me like a young fan of the little rascals wasn’t held enough, by his mother, as a kid. He developed an anger problem when the girls softball team wouldn’t let him play a game with them in high school. From there the pattern likely worsened through social shunning and pour stamina and clumsiness when he finally decided he would swear off sex for the rest of his life.
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In everything you copied from that wiki, if you replace "MGTOW" with "feminism" or "feminists", it would all be equally true/false. Feminism is the original gender hate movement that spawned MGTOW. They are two sides of the same sexist coin. MGTOW would never had existed had it not been for feminism, and if feminism disappeared tomorrow, so would MGTOW.
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It always makes me laugh when I see/hear feminists describing MGTOW as "toxic". The irony of that is precious.
@KrakenAttackin and just a quick reminder so you don't forget and before you end up blocking me like many other inadequate douches like in here end up doing
If you come at me pretending to be a bad-ass you will be deal with in a split-second accordingly, you and your bullshit will be taken to the garbage where you belong... because that's what an actual man does with nonsense like yours
Now, if you have any dignity left in your system, an actually want to have a discussion with me, then feel free to do so, but make no mistake, your bullshit, and your nonsense, your inadequacy and your flawed, insufficient, or plain wrong statements will be called out. We can always have a smarter discussion on many things but again... as the bare minimum you have to actually be smart about this things and not just a whiny mitch.
Either way you want it... you will have it... that's up to you, both ways or either way... I don't mind it.
@Subarugirl. Honest question. I am not a MGTOW but I do have sympathy for their cause. Why do women get so upset at the idea of men just focusing on the themselves and avoiding relationships?
@KrakenAttackin well I can’t speak for other women. I have no issue either people taking time to focus on them selves, I do have an issue with assholes though. As long as you’re not a total jerk we won’t have a problem.
As I see you're informing yourself from the best sources possible. Amazing and hilarious how such a tiny percentage of the male population scares women so much. No matter how much attention and money you get from your vast armies of white knights it's never enough for you.
if you were sincerely asking to know you'd be studying the works of Barbarossa MGTOW, Stardusk, Sandman and Turd Flinging Monkey. But of course they will pop your bubble and that's something you cannot allow.
To the fuckin retard who attempted to pollute my opinion: When Gag had MGTOW members you probably didn't even know this forum existed. Get the fuck out of my opinion you level 4 white knight. Reply removed.
The wiki article is bs. Because criticizing womens behavior is not misogyny. Pointing out feminist hypocrisy, its flaws in logic and its own internal contradictions is not misogyny.
Its overlaps with white supremacists?
There are non white mgtow men soooo...
Everything that the article says about mgtow could be said about feminism, but ill bet 100€ that it doesn't
Sort of. It is part of a larger right wing scatter-shot effort to create thousands of independent and even contradictory cults with only two common (though largely unspoken) themes: don't tax the rich and don't let government work for the poor.
If MGTOW is considered a cult for being anti-feminist then feminism could also be classified as a cult. It’s blatantly obvious that there is bias in that Wikipedia definition and the person who wrote it can’t stand the group. I know this doesn’t necessarily represent your opinion of MGTOW so I think it’s a really good question, @subarugirl.
No you have different subsections within MGTOW that can be considered as such. But the broad term "MGTOW" is not in any way a cult. Just a loose set of philosophical beliefs.
By definition no as a cult needs a leader and they don't have one.
Also, why does anyone care about them? They certainly don't care what we think of them otherwise they wouldn't be willingly separating themselves from society.
Call it whatever you want to call it, doesn't matter to MGTOW. MGTOW doesn't have a leader, we don't have any get together, no conferences, no home office. EVERY man does his own thing and keeps his money for himself just like women do.
Wikipedia is far left garbage. It's completely unreliable.
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And I'm sure Wikipedia is just as kind spirited when describing feminism.
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Your updated links are unkind and undermine your argument. Your attitude ironically appears to confirm some of the mantra that mgtow espouses, and implies your hidden biases in the subject.
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