Why are you anti-vax?

[OddBeMe]

Please explain your reasons.

[Anonymous]

Okay. Our national campaign sounds "get vaccinated. Think on others". They repeatef the following and still do : "If you get vaccinated, you will not be able to spread the virus and infect others, even if you already had covid and survived, even if you again get corona and get symptoms of covid and then you also might have less chance of dying in future".

Problem :

Literally several times on national press conference, those same idiots that are there from beginning and say these things and coined the mottos for the campaign etc : said also "well, now we know that vaccinated people ALSO SPREAD THE VIRUS JUST LIKE NOT VACCINATED PEOPLE..." (Heureka, we knew that for decades with experience with regular flu), "that vaccinated people ALSO get sick from covid, both if they get infected first or second or third time..." And "that no matter whether you're vaccinated or not, death is possible". 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🤔

So what is then the benefit.

I mean they even admitted it several times. Later they just continue to pretend they never told it and say usual things "better think on others and get vaccinated". But I have a feeling they still have a little bit of consciousness and sometimes still do want to warn the citizens about what they are aware of : they just spread what they are told to spread by larger forces. We are tiny country, many larger countries pressure things, and EU has large impact alltogether. So they can only once in a while allow themselves to say what they know is true, hoping that in those moments their big bosses from EU and pharmacology lobby, won't watch our TV at that particular moment when they warn vaccines are in vain anyway.

You're welcome.

[Stoner710]

Ok so this is where we come into conflict with what anti-vax means

1. Definition of anti-vaccine,

thoughts who are anti vax in general meaning that you should not get any vaccine

2. Should get a vaccine but if they refuse that’s their choice

3 those who choose to get the vaccine but it would not force others to get it

I fall into number 3 I have gotten the Covid vaccine. But at the same time it would not force people to get the vaccine

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Option 3 is no different than one when you give the virus opportunities to mutate into new strains by not imposing a mandate.

And before you go off on how this is America, not China, the CCP letting people do stupid shit at the expense of public safety is what landed the world in this mess in the first place.70

[Stoner710]

@Ad_Quid_Orator b first part I agree with what you said second parts of me some links I haven’t read that one yet.

From what I have read is the Chinese vaccine is 35% less effective than what we have in the United States

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

I'm not talking about the Chinese vaccine.

[Stoner710]

@Ad_Quid_Orator

So we’re not talking about the Chinese vaccine which one are we talking about then? The Pfizer vaccine got that.

[Anonymous]

Funny how the left claims only right wing won't take the vaccine, but during trumps era every democrat and liberal politician said they were NOT going to take the vaccine. Both Harris and Biden said it on national news... So why should we trust them under Bidens era?

The left is so hypocritical

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme you're nothing but a clown, go cry in the corner

[OddBeMe]

Don’t believe we said that. We were complaining about the lack of leadership and potential for trump to use the vaccine to his advantage. Rightly as we now know….
www.businessinsider.com/trump-associates-wanted-sell-veterans-medical-records-profit-report-2021-9

[Opinion Owner]

https://youtu.be/p7WD8l0Dc1I

Lmao 🤣

[Opinion Owner]

You’re so full of it…. Oh the hypocrisy…. So tel me, why should I believe you or Biden or Harris the same woman that locked up millions of my people for weed?

Please tell me?

[InspecturGajit]

The same reason I'm anti hand-washing, anti seat belts, and anti looking both ways before I cross the street. It's ma freedum

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Just like in China it was there freedom to force bats to shit on pangolins in the wet markets.

[InspecturGajit]

@Ad_Quid_Orator lol freedom to force bats to shit.

[InspecturGajit]

@Ad_Quid_Orator you're bat-shit alright

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You're bat shit if you think "freedom" means you shouldn't face repercussions for endangering public health.

[goaded]

@Ad_Quid_Orator Dude, he's teasing you!

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

@goaded I see, sorry some anti vaxxers are so crazy that it's hard to tell if they're a parody or not.

[exitseven]

I am not anti vax. I was vaccinated a long time ago. I am however in favor of people having a choice of what they put into their bodies.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

They have the choice (if they refuse people aren't going to barge in their house, pin them down and inject the vaccine in them), but they can't pose a public health risk by working in public spaces.

[exitseven]

@Ad_Quid_Orator If you do not want to catch Covid, then get the shot. This should not be any different than getting a flu shot.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

The difference is that the flu isn't causing a pandemic that has killed over 600,000 in the US.

[exitseven]

@Ad_Quid_Orator THe flu kills a lot of people every year but it is never reported because it happens every year.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

The flu kills 250,000 people per year and COVID-19 has killed 18 times as many (and would have killed tens of millions more had we not limited the spread).

[msc545]

We may not know the long-term health effects of the vaccine but we do know the long-term health effects of covid. Those effects are death.

[OddBeMe]

What are longterm health effects of every other current vaccine?

[msc545]

I'm sure you can look this up.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I'm not anti vaccine or medicine for others but I just don't like injecting stuff into my body unless I seriously need it.

[OddBeMe]

The pandemic thinks you need it.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

People who have weak immune systems or lung problems need it, not me.

[OddBeMe]

how do you measure immune systems?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

The elderly have tend to have weak immune system and people should know their health status if they have lung problems etc.

[goaded]

Are you as fit as, say, a gold medal winning Olympic swimmer?

www.cbsnews.com/.../

[Snakeyes7]

What definition? The 2015, 2020 or 2021 definition?

[OddBeMe]

Oh, the questions too hard…Why are you anti Covid vax?

[Snakeyes7]

I'm not, in fact I have gotten it. I don't like the mandates.

[Anonymous]

the virus is fake lol

and they have literally used dolls in videos

faking like its real people lol

[OddBeMe]

What’s real people? Trump voters?

[Anonymous]

We don’t know the long term health effects

[OddBeMe]

What are longterm health effects of other current vaccines?

[Opinion Owner]

Cáncer

[Mango-man]

Cancer, joint pain, wrinkles, and other symptoms commonly called "ageing", coz can't age if one dies.