No, the most selfish thing is to require actions of others specifically so you can do what you want to do. So it's not just selfish it's also controlling. That's way worse.
But it doesn't even work in this case, because it's the government enforcing policies that is really dictating what people do with their lives, at least the ones who are listening to it (I'd argue moronic in doing so)
But because they've just accepted government as their God they shift blame wrongly to those who haven't been vaccinated. Objectively we know natural immunity is best. Objectively we know if you got it and recovered it's harder to get again and the symptoms are lessened just like the flu every year.
People who don't get vaccinated based on the knowledge we have now in my mind are the most mentally sound unless they're in a position of compromised health or deal with people who are.
But that's me thinking logically and not from a place of fear like many diehard hard-core pro vax people that bash anyone who says anything not in full support of their position
Have to look at it this way too. Are the ones who believe and trust in this vaccination selfish? Only believe that the ones who get this vaccination deserve to go out and about because they have it? What if it goes against their religious beliefs that all vaccinations are the work of the devil, or however they may see it. I support the ones who do, and the ones who don't. The government shouldn't be the final say in how you want to live your life. I won't get the booster shot. I got the virus from a buddy who doesn't have the vaccination and he's doing fine. I'm doing fine. If the ones who believe that everyone should get it just because of their immune system not being able to fight the virus, and them being opposed to the ones who will not, should stay in and stay out of the way of the people who want to live a regular life. Stop trying to put fear in others lives because you heard something on social media, or in the news that you want survive if you don't get the vaccination.
The ideal is to keep the number of infections down to below what the hospitals can cope with. If unvaccinated people are filling up the hospitals at 17x the rate of vaccinated people, it all takes longer, and people die from lack of hospital capacity to treat their non-covid problems.
We live in a democratic country, being vaccinated is not mandatory nor obliged. People who are vaccinated, are protected through the virus but still, chances are possible that it's not thorough, you can still get a virus, despite being vax. For those who are not vax, let's say for example, they have this doubt on vaccines, in such instances are those old ones, do they have to risk there life in getting it? It's the same with those other people who are not risk taker. If you have vaccine then it's good, you have a barrier to protect yourself from virus, but if you have not then it's better to stay at home... prevention is better than the worst... but still they are not selfish just because they are afraid of the consequences for their health.
It takes 15 years for a vaccine to go through trial, test, and study.. not less then 1 year on any vaccines. So me being called selifish because I don’t want a mRNA in my body I’m fine with that. I trust my own immune system.. I don’t rely on medicine. I take vitamins and keep my immune system up.
I am tired of vaccinated people walking around pushing their beliefs onto others.. I don’t do that.. partially why I don’t deal with vaccinated people anymore.
What are you bragging about omicrom when they're not even near as harmful as the recent variants? I can also say your fellow unvaccinated people have been affected by the previous variants and most of them died while those vaccinated are of happily working. How about you also talk about that part instead of being one sided? But you know it's also hypocritical to say that when anti-vaxxers had also been forcing their beliefs into vaccinated people.
I never had covid in 2 1/2 years. Recently got Omicrom from a vaccinated family member whose walking around coughing everywhere.. don’t care about covering her mouth.. so pls get on @Aiko_E_ Lara my my unvaccinated family ( kids ) never had covid until being around you vaccinated people. Me and my family will be leaving next month ( I’m combating this variant just fine ) may have had COVID in the past and was just fine.. I only get sick around you vaccinated people.. no bragging just know vaccinated people who are confined in the bed.. immune system is just fine and I’m ok today Day 2 of quarantine
Those people who got COVID-19 got it from you vaccinated people/ your spiked protein machines creating illness and viruses everywhere.. I can be around the unvaccinated and have no issue ! I wear my mask and distance.. I get sick around you guys !
That's an anecdote and that's just like saying my grandpa smokes but he still lives at 90 so cigarette smoking is not bad. You can give anecdote all you want when anyone can also give anecdotes just to counteract your claims. I can also say we see more people unvaccinated suffering more to the omicron variant. But in the end you just want to show your hypocrisy to vaccinated people. Isn't that kind a like rubbing your anti-vaccine belief in to vaccinated people? Again your hypocrisy is showing
I won’t sleep , date , kiss, or be intimate with anyone vaccinated- I have to start a detox process since my mom, grandma, and niece (1 years old is vaccinated)
I don’t deal with the vaccinated and the quicker the unvaccinated people can get away we’re safe.. vaccinated are bioweapons if they don’t know ( will find out soon )
Vaccinated people better make sure their reproductive systems is ok ! Hearing that women and men are having fertility issues now ! Blood clotting , miscarriages, and monthly issues since being around the vaccinated people
Idiot @BeenThereLovedIt make sure your nuts ain’t swelling dude you vaccinated people are FUCKED- only thing we can do ( UNVACCINATED) get away from you guys before it’s too late ) packing to move next month..
In private groups where this shyt is being exposed daily.. we have to separate ASAP ! I can’t risk my family around you vaccinated people including my family and friends.. go research @BeenThereLovedIt
Continuing to show your hypocrisy again. Maybe on on the reason why anti-vaxxers don't get the job because no companies likes to hire hypocritical morons who only knows how to give anecdote as a proof
I’m self employed and not interested in working for any vaccinated employeer. I make my own money and I’m my own boss! Left the medical field of 11 years not to worry about it! I don’t have these mandate issues
Any employeer pushing this can go to hell - my old job pushed this and now need nurses back - good luck finding nurses and assistants ; not coming back
Well good for you what are you still continue pushing on your belief that i can also the same thing. Any employer pushing your unvaccinated agenda can also go to hell. I can also tell you that good luck finding nurses and assistant if you actually got covid. Sorry not sorry. You know you're not the only one who can do that. What still stands is still you are proving your hypocrisy. And of course you're still going to dodge it and pretending i never said that
I’m a holistic spiritualist / most of the doctors that I see are unvaccinated.. I see a spiritualist.. herbalist.. GTFO loser.. lol @ Aiko_E_ Lara no issue finding a provider to see me and my kids
More anecdotes. It's really hard to believe you're actually a self employer so who are you to brag when no one else actually care because what you only prove is what a hypocrite you are. So ok if we have two player game and stay away from the unvaccinated people then as a company owner myself, i'm already not hiring anyone who is unvaccinated. I thought you want me to play that game but there you are telling them to go to hell as if you cannot really make up your mind
@cth2188 If you are going to argue something, at least become familiar with the actual subject matter and not just the talking points.
But then I'm expecting you to block me just like you did Aiko. Whatever, stay misinformed and keep looking like a fool arguing about something you don't even understand because some news host on youtube tolda to.
I blocked @Aiko that dude is annoying lol 😂 it’s his normal to attack me lol! I’ve done my research @BeenThereLovedIt 2 1/2 years to be exact I don’t like what I’m seeing.. I walked away from my medical career of 11 years not FIRED JUST QUIT- the matter of the point if I didn’t care for you guys I wouldn’t be this press. Fauci is a crock of shyt simple !
I don’t watch YouTube - I don’t get my information from websites! I want y’all to call me crazy come back in a year and apologize if I’m wrong 😑.. can you do that?
Don’t you think a pandemic could speed up science to develop a vaccine faster? Also…it clearly works. It’s been a year. And the unvaxxed are 40x more likely to be Covid patients.
There is no pandemic , there is no proof COVID-19 exist , these are not vaccines administered, what you are given are mRNAs.. nothing more nothing less.. ⛔️ mRNAs if anything you vaccinated people are a danger to us / we need to separate ourselves
@cth2188 Just with regards the approval for vaccines being 15 years, that's correct but only for things like the Flu. This was a global pandemic so instead of being placed in a queue to be approved, they approved it quicker. They did sufficient trialling on this vaccine, it's one of the greatest breakthroughs in science. But, I understand why people think that, I do suggest doing some research.
@cth2188 I'd rather you use the little brain cells you have to block me, I really would much prefer that then to speak to someone so uneducated and in denial about something that is literally happening around them. I bet you believe in God though. Bye :)
@cth2188 I don't trust the government, hence why I work in the field I do and do my own research. You can spend your days waiting, like I said, I'm not going to converse with someone of your intelligence. Have a good day.
I gave you the floor @acooke-13 😑 I’m not playing with y’all stop challenging me or underestimating me / you have no information just say that / I live and breath science
@cth2188 That came across as full of anger and stress. Prove you got covid from a vaccinated person. You say you got Omnicron (a varient of covid) then say "There is no pandemic , there is no proof COVID-19 exist." Either you have Omnicron because covid is real or you don't have Omnicron.
I said there is no proof a pandemic don’t be stupid @MysteriousDarkness we didn’t have these issues until the vaccines were introduced- shorter terms when your little immune system went down you started created all kinds of viruses and illness passing that shyt around to the unvaccinated- how do we combat this we avoid you guys
Yes, I got omicron from my vaccinated family member.. I am always at home 24/7/365 you guys are the carriers and passing illness around. Why we have omicron is because you vaccinated people.. the vaccine should be working should it? Clearly people are dying and getting sick even with the vaccine. Why is that? Doesn’t seem to be working - you guys literally have no immune system bud.. your open receptors for all kind of illness and viruses @MysteriousDarkness
@cth2188 You just called me vaccinated without knowing if I am vaccinated or not. If there is no pandemic then explain how you got Omnicron a varient of Covid?
Vaccinated or not you sound ignorant to information I’ve researched. Idc what you are.. I didn’t ask you about your vaccine status because I don’t care. Maybe you should research.. I am waiting on the information to come out that’s all ( the truth )
Mines either - I want the vaccinated to provide some information to back up what they’re saying @Deserter no one can it’s great! I have 3k on tik tok who are open to what I have to say
I'm sick of arguing about it, nothing gets through to these people. I just can't believe it's been almost 2 years and I have to still wear a mask at work. The fact that people don't see a problem with that and support it is frankly disturbing. They don't act like human beings but aliens.
Their rationalizations are dumb. Less chance of getting sick with the vaccine and masks? People still are getting sick. The virus is also piss weak, always was. Viruses mutate down and this is what, the 5th variant? It's super super weak now.
Yes another one will be created Covid will never stop.. the only way this shyt will cease to exist if humans die.. we can stop transmuting and transferring it around.. when vaccinated people got vaccinated they became open receptors
What’s your tiktoks need someone who’s reliable and is an antivaxxer cuz we can’t trust these vaccinated especially with the fake study on miscarriages
No but I do find pro vaxxer sycophants to be selfish, tyrannical and hypocritical.
You are vaccinated good for you!
You are not vaccinated good for you!
Maybe if you commiecrats stopped making the Covid vaccine political, perhaps more people would get vaccinated?🤔 Either way I personally don’t care if you are vaccinated or not because unlike you I mind my own business and I do not appreciate authoritarians trying to intrude in my business.
You don’t see the contradiction do you? Even your own “credible” sources have shown that it’s rare for fully vaccinated people to get Covid and that it’s mostly the unvaccinated that get Covid.
So your idea of “public endangerment” is bullshit. Typical collectivist tyranny.
What’s funny is that I am vaccinated but even like that I still think you democrats are getting annoying with your authoritarian attitudes towards the vaccines.
Seems like we’ve been done this road before ADF. The Economy is suffering because the markets are afraid of the next Covid spike of unvaxxed idiots. So yeah it affects me.
I don’t see how I’m keeping this pandemic going as I’m not vaccinated and haven’t gotten COVID yet and I haven’t gotten sick since before Covid started while a lot of the people I know have been getting sick a lot more then usual and I dont tell anyone to not get the vaccine even though I’ve been told countless times to get the vaccine by people who are vaccinated
Everyone has their right to do it or not to do it and those that judge others for not doing it are pretty fucked up people. It's their belief to not do it and I didn't get it done and I'll tell you why because then all these fucking years there's no cure for cancer there's no cure for AIDS there never will be and yet magically and one fucking year there's a cure for a virus that is so fucking powerful yeah okay sure. And then you've got the piece of shit Democrats oh and if you're a Democrat I'm sorry but you're a piece of shit I'm going to go along with the way you guys are judging people so fuck it. You got by and saying well if you get vaccinated you'll never catch the virus again bull fucking shit I know people that have gotten both vaccinations and boosters and the second and third time they got sick it was the same as bad as the first time so whether you get it or you don't get it it doesn't really fucking matter and I've never had it nor do I plan to have it I've got a good immune system and a great healthy system going for many years and I very rarely ever get sick so fuck that. Oh and if you comment I'll never fucking read it anyway so yeah whatever
I don't have a problem with anti-vaxxers not wanting to take the vaccine.
I just have a problem with the types here who think they are entitled to a job, a youtube account, facebook, access to restaurants, private establishments etc. . .
because they think they have a Constitutional right to violate other people's Constitutional rights.
Vaccination is a procedure far beyond being pro or anti. It's just a tool against diseases. Set aside real personal health issues preventing efficient effects of vaccination, there's no reason at all to be against. Whether the anti-vaccination people are selfish or not has no relevance. Some of those people may perfectly be convinced to be against for religious reasons, others because of some idiotic political short sighted reasons, maybe to create instability in society for some imaginary idiology, or just to be against something for the fun or for the sake of some hidden social frustration. I don't know what really motivates those people, medical incompatibility set aside, but they're missing an essential point.
"There's no real reason to be against" 1. They haven't been properly and thoroughly tested for either effectiveness or long-term consequences. 2. They don't actually work. Are two reasons enough? Do you need more?
@Gal67 I do not agree with you. 1. Having been properly vaccinated three times, and having felt no side effects, I can tell you that the advantages are by far more advantageous than possible problems. 2. Who says they don't work? Hypocrit politicians and fanatics. Even not for 100% effective, let's say worst case scenario 60%, that's already an improvement compared to doing nothing. Think of the vaccin against cholera, which works only in one out of two cases: 50% people protected, but also those who nevertheless will get cholera have also 50% chances of survival. That's also an improvement.
I wasn't talking about the immediate side effects, but the potential long-term consequences. Do you understand the difference? The vaccines do not work, because if they did we would not have people constantly whingeing about how all of those nasty, unvaccinated people are "selfish" and prone to kill all those healthy doo-gooders who "did the right thing" and got vaxxed. If you can still die from the commievirus after being jabbed, then they either don't work at all, or don't work as well as they should.
@Gal67 No offense meant, but such discussions are completely pointless. What is actually sure, that is that vaccinated people are less likely to die from the Covid. That's enough for me. Concerning long term effecs, indeed not to be completely excluded, it concerns all existing vaccins. Absolute security does not exist, and I don't think that would be a good thing by the way:perfection is not from this world. Best wishes anyway ;0)
How is it "selfish" to simply defer a treatment that one is weary of receiving due to the inherent confusion and misinformation about said treatment, the extremely short development time for that treatment, the fact that if such a procedure has severe side-effects one cannot sue the developers of it, and which was introduced in order to combat a virus that has an approximately 99.6% survival rate, where approximately 80% of people who have the virus don't even know they have it to begin with, and which actually has a lower death toll than other similar coronaviruses like the flu?
If they want to die then there shure on the right road but all their doing is making us people who got vaccinated keep getting booster shots so their taking parts of our freedom away an making us mount up on boosters till there's the cure but the big question is would they take the cure if it was out I feel once we get a cure will have to wear a plastic card showing were cured so we dont have to wear mask any more an look at how much this an cures an vaccines will have cost our government we pay taxes to
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The Republicans have been trying to turn back time to the 50's before Keynesian economics since Regan. The wealthy is really the only group the GOP serves.
The GOP, the RNC have been lying and pandering to mainly White Christians, Libertarians, the working class and honest Conservatives who can't understand why they have become poorer under the GOP's policies.
I could go on. However, if you don't understand college 101 economics, capitalism's shortcomings and accept the fact that Conservative Christians and the working class AND public education have been victims of the GOP for 40 years. I would be waisting my time trying to convince you that Democrats are not the enemy.
This is true: Nixon said on camera, "I guess we're all Keynesians now." George H. W. Bush had to raise taxes on the rich, criticizing supply side, "trickle down" "Reganomics" saving us from a recession and terrible inflation, calling the Larffer curve, "voodoo economics".
Hell yes! This purely political death cult would not have happened without Trump, and FOX and the other fascist propaganda of the GOP since Bush 43 sold a truckload of crap to evangelical Christians, and the then popular libertarians.
For goodness sake we are a community of misfits, America. This anti-vax crap is not selfish. It is an all out violent attack against our MOST fundamental right. The right to life. It is nothing short of political violence sponsored by those mentioned above.
And I agree... to a point. I see the virus the same as an invading army. Almost a million deaths, perhaps we should think about our country over our own rights. For now...
Do the two of you actually believe there is ANY difference between the Democratic and Republican parties? They're the two sides to the same ugly monster, pretending to be opposites so people won't see what's really going on behind the scenes.
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They are just dumbasses.
They are what happens when you let "freedom of speech" get to peoples heads. They think whatever bullshit they can come up with "must" be supported by the laws of the land regardless of the majorities freedoms.
They forget that democracies work by majorities. If you're not a majority - you don't matter much.
They put the lives of children, women, and men at risk, so yes, they are inherently selfish. Where you find opposition, however, is in their motives. Some people may believe that not being vaccinated is helpful to the immune system, so even though their actions are selfish, their intentions are not
The decision to not put an experimental drug in one's body has nothing to do with politics. That's especially true when science tells us that the experimental drug is not very effective and doesn't prevent anything.
If you look at the history of COVID, you'll notice something very interesting. There have been more cases, and many more deaths, since the vaccines were introduced than before, when there were no vaccines.
If nobody in this country ever took vaccines, then you wouldn't be here, your parents would be dead from polio, chicken pox, rubella, etc..
It's beyond selfish, it's putting everyone else at risk, and you are allowing variants to breed in the unvaccinated. I'd say it's criminal negligence on top of selfish.
"Everyone else at risk" - What, you mean even those who have been triple-vaxxed and who should, therefore, not have to worry at all about dying from the disease or even getting ill, because the vaccines work so well? People like you are protected from the virus, right? So why worry? Unless... You people can't even get your shitty story straight!
@Gal67 I don't even know where to start. People "like me" are more protected, it's not black or white. Anyone can get it, and anyone can die from it, but triple vaxxed people are statistically 5x less likely to contract the virus, 10x less likely to be hospitalized from it, and 10x less likely to die from it. It's simple math.
On your suggestion of why worry, well, you people (unvaccinated people) are dragging this out. If you all had got vaxxed 9 months ago, or 2 variants ago.. then we wouldn't be dealing with these varients in the first place, and we would most likely be at the end or near-end of the pandemic. You can't see that, but maybe the words might sink in while you sleep. Who knows.
On your final point, it's not a story, and nobody needs to keep anything straight. The fact that you are viewing real-life events as a narrative is rather disturbing and tells me that we're not playing in the same sandbox. You are only hurting yourself and others like you. Oh, and the elderly and children you come into contact with. Or who come into contact with anyone you come into contact with.
"Anyone can get it, and anyone can die from it, but triple vaxxed people are statistically 5x less likely to contract the virus, 10x less likely to be hospitalized from it, and 10x less likely to die from it. It's simple math." If that's the case, then the vaccines DON'T WORK! Do people, for example, still die from diseases we eliminated via vaccination (ex. smallpox)? The entire purpose of having a vaccine in the first place is to ensure that people do not die from whatever illness the vaccine was developed to prevent. No, I'm not hurting anyone. That's what people like YOU are doing, when you demand that people either receive the shots or lose their livelihood. It isn't people like me who feel the need to use blackmail in order to "convince" people to be jabbed. You are selfish and childish.
@Gal67 do you not get it? 10x less like on top of 10x less likely... That means the vaccines turn a deadly virus into a minor flu for the vaccinated. That is supported by the fact that the vast majority of both hospitalizations and deaths are the unvaccinated.
But finally someone got on camera and explained it in your own language to you, so I can end this utterly pointless conversation with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLteSt0k3XY
Couldnt be further from the truth. You accually think GODS chosen have to worry about the pestilence that sweeps the earth against those who deny him? Think again...
Are you suggesting the vaccines don't work? You should have ZERO opinion of unjabbed people as they have zero affect on you... unless someone is lying.
The experts:
I need like 12 more Spidermen to fully encapsulate the last 2 years of horseshit from "the experts."
Your own health is your responsibility and nobody else's. Forcing an experimental vaccine on people violates a person's rights. Especially when it causes health issues and could kill that person. It was rushed and NOBODY knows what the long term effects are.
I keep forgetting my vitamins and I also flush out my sinuses. Flushing the sinuses gets a lot of bad stuff out as that is generally how things get in.
I have seen to many negative reactions, up to and including death. I have clotting issues already, no chance will I ever consent to receiving the poison shot.
So sorry AnthonyJ01! I hope you get better ! I won’t take the jab ! I had death wished on me and mines last year- I avoid the vaccinated and their cultist mindset!
I know people who have taken it and work with some. I have coworkers who refuse. The higher up's know that if they decide to push it, they will lose like 50% of us. Since we drive school buses and there is nobody to take our place.
Exactly I think we can start suing some people who are pushing this BS ! Exclusively if you have been medical exempted like I have ! Maybe the vaccinated will stfu !
I refuse to date or be around the vaccinated ! There is no way.. we would have to keep our immune systems up daily to combat these illnesses daily.. just don’t risk yourself.. Handmaidens Tales would explain this !
Being single isn't all that bad, but I miss having the sort of friend I had when I was stationed in Italy. My best friend was a woman. Always there for each other.
I hear you. I refuse that shot. It I everyone's right to either accept or refuse. Forcing, threatening of coercion to take if is not legal. Especially when the government grants immunity to the faulty vaccines.
All this crap about employers forcing everyone to take that damn vaccine is BS. I have seen posts about forcing unvaccinated people into internment camps.
No, you moron. Firstly, choosing not to take the Covid shot doesn’t make anyone an “anti vaxxer.” Many people have gained natural immunity by having the virus. Also, the purpose of the shot is to prevent someone from getting deadly sick. If you aren’t elderly or don’t have an underlying health condition, it’s basically pointless. The phony narrative of painting people who won’t take the shot as “selfish” and the reason people are dying is really getting old.
No, people who think that they are so right that they get to coerce and control others are selfish. I mind my own business, the pro mandate folk should try that
Agreed these people walk around all day policing what others do! I don’t police what vaccinated people do ( Don’t care) if they are vaccinated why does it matter what others do with their body !
@OddBeMe comparing covid shots to driving drunk is one of the most asinine things I’ve ever heard in my life. Do have any self awareness of how dumb you sound?
OddBeMe - Is that the best you can do? Insult others who make you look foolish, and constantly bring up your supremely silly seatbelt/drunk driving analogies?
OddBeMe - "I'm for isolating the unvaxxed from society". So you're in favour of scapegoating those who defend the concept of bodily autonomy. How would you propose to do this? Open up concentration camps perhaps? Make us get tattoos on our arms? You people are worse than the Nazis!
Simple: because you can still get the disease and die to it. The alleged risk reduction is extremely minor. A vaccine that doesn't make you immune does not work by my definition.
There seems to ve a very slightly lower risk to die. But the science on that is wonky and publicly available metrics are all sorts of skewed and partly even intentionally faked. So many politicians have been caught lying about those numbers but they keep acting all if it's facts.
I am saying that I'm not accepting to be told it's raining while one pisses on my leg. If the government wants to tell me that this vaccine is necessary for me but then I see that it only reduces a very low chance of having a serious cases by a tiny bit, i don't think that this vaccine "works" they are playing with the meaning of vaccine. You might as well believe in homeopathy, cause there are measurable effects too.
Yes. A total risk reduction from 0.04% to 0.005% are roughly 95%. That's how maths works. But you have to understand what the numbers mean... can we at least agree that in total numbers, this is not a lot? Or do you think that is actually impressive?
"Depending on how the effect size is expressed, a quite different picture might emerge" this is exactly what i'm saying. this source you showed. they are even using the terms "relative risk reduction".
i don't have the source at handy and i'm not willing to sift throught he internet for an hour. i read the original pfizer/moderna phase 3 studies. they had roughly 60.000 participants. only 200 got a confirmed infection with corona. and of this tiny number, the vast majority happened to be in the controll group (the unvaccinated)
so what i'm saying is: what they did is use statistical double speak to bullshit you into thinking that you're taking a highly effective medicine.
if you don't know what i mean with statistical double speak, here's what i mean explained in an example:
this is exactly what relative risk reduction does it basically ignores the absolute or "total" risk and just compares vaccinated vs unvaccinated. ignoring that your risk is extremely low even without the vaccine to begin with.
OddBeMe - Ha! He got you there! ;) Hey, why don't you just trawl out your asinine "seatbelts/drunk driving" analogy again? Maybe that will get you out of the hole you've dug yourself into. :D
Sure by like 90%. That’s why the unvaxxed are 40x more likely to get and spread Covid. And die from it. And that’s why our economy is floundering. Because of shits like you.
I dont even live in the same fucking country as you, I dont buy any American products so I am literally nothing what so ever to do with your economy.
You really need to calm down and get some perspective and quite apart from anything else, just mind your own fucking business.
Its nothing to do with you.
You dont worry about getting caught up in a gun fight every time you get in your car and that shit happens all the fucking time in the States and you have probably never even given it a single thought.
The reason you are so bent out of shape about this is because your television told you to be, stop being so easily manipulated by people who literally couldnt give less of a shit about you.
You cannot possibly know who has passed on the virus from one to another.
You have to be fucking mad to think you can know that, its ridiculous.
Think about it, if you have the virus and you go home and give it to people you live with that nothing to do with some guy who lives in another fucking country who hasn't been vaccinated.
The fact of the matter is that if no action had been taken and you hadn't been told about it you wouldn't have even noticed anything had even happened.
Because we’re not all assholes who want millions to die. You think it’s best for govts to do nothing and let tens of millions die from a viral pandemic. I don’t.
The vast majority of people who have died are literally like 80 years old, you many times more likely to die if you are 80 than even 70.
So what this also means is that if you looked at the deaths over 5 or 10 years, the averages, the amount of people lost might be extremely small indeed.
A small percentage of people who have already lived almost all of thier lives would have lost a few years.
You seem to be under the impression that I am some sort of monsterous cunt that doesn't give a single fuck about anyone.
Nothing could be further from the truth, I simply understand the situation as a whole.
When this thing landed there was a cost to be paid, you have to fucking pay the piper, the question is only how you pay that cost.
I value the freedom of people and the quality of peoples lives, their business and lifes work of younger people who are still trying to live their fucking lives and raise their families etc over, for the most part, reducing the lives of people who have already had an opportunity, who have already lived most of their lives.
If you are not putting EVERYTHING in the fucking scales and weighing the whole cost you are not understanding the situation at all.
The government responce to the virus was more damaging than simply letting it run its course and that was very clear, very early on.
You dont fucking grasp anything about the world or what is happening in it.
You want to know why such a big deal was made about this?
You think it is about protecting you or your fucking interests?
Why the fuck would you matter to the fucking shot callers?
They dont care about you.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU.
You are a fucking slave on a people farm and the herd got sick and that could make the real people who actually matter sick. THAT IS WHY there is a fucking clown fiesta going on.
It's nothing to do with saving the lives of plebs.
You think the rich have lost everything? You think their economy is fucked?
They are all fine.
It's the common man who got fucked, because the common man always gets fucked.
How is ANY of this news to you?
How fucking ignorant do you have to be to be utterly incapable of grasping this?
You dont even have fucking health care in the States, so dont try to tell me that your fucking nation gives a single fuck about saving anyones fucking life.
You are the only fucking country in the western world that doesn't have guaranteed access to fucking health care.
I haven't quite been fair to you, I shouldn't say that you are stupid, its not about being stupid, its about being indoctrinated.
Your enslavement, your prison, it doesn't exist in the world around you, it is inside your own mind and you are the guard.
Just look at how you have defended your overlords, you think what they tell you to think and you repeat it to others.
I am trying to show you that there is a hole in the fence that we can escape through together and you are attacking me, trying to destroy me and fill in the hole to maintain your prison, its precious to you because its all you have ever known your whole life you have been lied to, like everyone is lied to.
Open your eyes, wake up and see the obvious truth which has been staring you in the face since before you could write your own name.
I didn't check this video before linking it but i suspect it is much the same as the video i wanted to show you.
You say that I am crazy but you are the one with an extreme and utterly implausible world view, because in order for you to you right what has to be the case is that all of the rich and powerful people in the world must be uniquely selfless, because the position you are taking up, what you are arguing is that they dont persue their own interests.
You do, why wouldn't they?
How is your crazy looking now?
No different? Because you have so much dick in your throat you can't think straight?
They're not selfish because everyone gets infected anyways. Except it doesn't affect those vaccinated. It would just make them morons and of course i am in for those companies who don't hire them.
Nothing wrong with having a negative opinion about vaccines. And even MORE OK to have a STRONG negative opinion about shots that are not even vaccines, such as the COVID-19 injections
The only bad thing about being unjabbed, is the potential persecution that will come from the jabbed... which will undoubtedly be fueled by our Communist govt
You never bothered understanding what flattening the curve meant, did you?
It prolongs the epidemic, but keeps the numbers to a level that the hospitals can cope with. And yes, by and large lockdowns did that, even if it took a bit longer than two weeks.
In 2020 democrats were the ones against the "Trump"vaccine. Never heard them being labeled as selfish. When Biden won , they did a 180 for political points. Now you acting like some moral gods. lol
People were against taking Trump's or Atlas' word for its safety, not the vaccines themselves. Why would you trust a known liar and a radiologist when it comes to vaccines?
@goaded you're so deluded. Did Trump manufacture the vaccine? NO! It was not his vaccine and his word on whether it's good or bad would have been irrelevant.
Nothing changed except the President and liberals did a 180 because it suited them politically. Don't forget the fact that the vaccine roll out started under Trump.
You really think Trump was above pushing things past the limit to increase his chances of re-election?
One of his scientific advisors testified before congress that she thought Trump's reluctance to listen to scientific advice led to 130,000 unnecessary deaths in the US.
No, not really. We should have the right to freedom of choice. But these religious types, are the worst. Believing god will save them, yet people die every day from stupid things.
@cth2188 I honestly do not give a F. You people can "believe" I what You want. Yoh can believe in Santa, tooth fairies, lepercauns, Easter rabbits all Yoh want. Your choice your life. But it does t make it real, just because you do believe it. Crazy how you don't see how you have been brainwashed.
That’s your business @Paul09 just because I believe in God doesn’t make it your business to attack my religious and spiritual beliefs.. you vaccinated people are cultist. I didn’t ask you about your medical status.. you vaccinated people need to mind your own business
@cth2188 um religion is a cult, and yes religion ruins this world. So your pretend man created gods just create problems I the world. Believing magical powers that will protect You because You chant every night? You can't even think for yourself, You need religion to tell you what to do. And again I'm usually anti Vax, for myself.
I didn’t say I was religious ! I am a spiritual believer in God doesn’t make me a religious person! Clearly your faith isn’t in God ! That’s your business ! My spiritual or religious beliefs is my business !
Anyone who says anti vaxxer is racist, selfish, and a danger to society. We identify as pure bloods. Anyone who mis identifies us should be locked away. CNN told me so.
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Just because they don't want to take this vaccine doesn't make them an anti-vaxxer so no they aren't.
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Selfish, dumb and in some cases pure evil.
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with all the blood clots, heart problems and narcolepsy and stuff who would want a vaccine
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