I believe so, I used to know someone who never had a vaccine. Their parents didn’t believe in them but they still somehow were allowed to go to school. In fact, not only do they not get vaccines but they never in their life went to the doctors for a check up or dentist to get their teeth checked (their teeth were yellow and it was obvious they needed to get them fixed)
But their parents “didn’t believe in them” so they’re literally ruining their kids life all because of their own beliefs. Not only that but actual people who are immune compromised that can’t get vaccines for valid medical reasons are at risk because anti-Vax are bringing back vaccine preventable diseases that have already been eradicated like smallpox.
Anti vax people are also endangering infants that are too young to receive vaccinations, as well as elders that are at higher risk of disease and have weaker immune systems.
Vaccines are a reflection of how far advanced human civilization has come yet we have people that refuse to take them 😃 might as well be cave people in my opinion.
Your question’s premise does not apply at all to the Covid mRNA injection, as it is not a vaccine. The mRNA in the Covid chain application has never been used on humans before. It is an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) experimental vaccine and is NOT approved by the FDA as your referenced vaccines. It was only deployed initially for those highest at risk due to the risk of the mRNA itself. It now appears that the original concept of the mRNA remaining in the shoulder with its associated spike protein is now flawed. The spike protein is “cleaves” from the cells and travel into the lymphatic system into the bloodstream throughout the body. These spike proteins have been known to cause blood clots since their inception and it was critical that they remained in the shoulder for this vaccine to remain safe; they are not. They are slowly accumulating clots throughout the vaxxed’s bloodstream and if those clots occur in the lungs, heart, or brain, those are non-regenerative; and will cause permanent damage. This is happening on a grand scale already; and is being covered up. Others that have received the injection will potentially form these clots in the longer term. I personally hope this turns out to be minimal for most because the thought of half of the population being physically disabled or killed is not good for anyone including the non-vaxxed. Unfortunately, the vaxxed will spread the spike proteins as nano-particles, which will penetrate the skin directly spreading the Covid spike protein to all. I hope this one is inaccurate too. Therefore, not receiving this Covid jab has nothing to do with anti-vaxx at all since it is not a vaccine but rather was intended as a last resort emergency deployment only. It was not intended to be generally dispersed against a virus with a natural >98.8 survival rate. Apparently, the left higher-ups know this and are using it in combination with the MSM to spread this to the population, why? Don’t mix anti-vaccine with this Covid jab because it is absolutely false on your part and it is dangerous to propagate such misinformation given the dangers of this starting to leak out.
I literally never brought up Covid, people are the ones taking it upon themselves to act like I did when I never even mentioned the covid vaccine. I’m referring to people who don’t use any vaccines or shots
@doopayo Sure you never called it out but given that it is the most intense vaccination subject on everyone's mind today, it sure leaves it hanging out there with the implication that it is included if not central. News of the day typically takes precedence without any other specificity. Okay, it is not included.
We honestly will not know that answer for years to come to get the truth anyway the true answer the thing is is our government our higher-ups have lied to us so many times about certain things we all have our own opinion we have our own thought we're starting to change from being followers to figuring it out ourselves there's also people with just common sense and when you look at everything as a whole and you stand back and you really look at that picture there are pieces missing are too many pieces or two more identical pictures side by side and all three of them go together but they're all three different things trying to make you think something like I said we have been lied to so many times and people have that freedom that rent to choose what they want to choose because of the way they feel or the way they have been treated or the way they have been lied to in the past if they are wrong did they are wrong and they're going to have to admit that and accept it but you can't give somebody a hard time for feeling what they feel are doing what they do based on how they've been treated in the past I have to look at it like this I have done my research over 3,000 something people die every year in my city from 20 different and I can prove that by going back the last past 20 years and look the evidence that has been journal for the last 20 years and then I go back to last year and every single person died of covid-19 now either God is here and we've had a miracle or somebody is lying why would they lie why would they want to falsify documents to make people believe something why hasn't anybody died last year from gunshot wounds from car accidents from hit-and-run from overdoses from having a cold from pregnancy from being stabbed from having cancer why didn't anybody die that way last year I know two people that have cancer and they died in the death certificate it didn't say they were battling cancer they say they died of covid-19 drug deal gone bad kids get shot how come the death certificate didn't say he was shot he died of gunshot wounds instead it said he died of covid-19 something is just wrong with that Common Sense tells me it when people lie they're trying to hide something
Just for the sake of argument, let's say a covid vaccine does something like doubling your chances of skin cancer in 20 years. Which one? Only a fraction of the population will have had that particular vaccine. And there will be millions more people alive to have that problem, if nearly everyone gets vaccinated.
As to the idea that everybody gets covid on their death certificate, no matter what happened to them is simply misinformation. One significant outcome of the pandemic is that almost nobody caught flu last year, but that's simply because almost everyone was tring to avoid all viruses.
@goaded your so very right your so very right ,, but the misinformation is being done deliberately every city and every hospital has done it and is doing it there's a reason behind it and this is the whole thing why not just write down the truth of what it is they die from why are they trying to make us believe something else like I said I've looked at my City Records 12 to 15 years I think and I've done it for 12 or 15 years is what I'm trying to say because it interested me since the first day that I seen it 12 or 15 years ago common cold takes up 3/4 of that 3,000 people I was talking about. Every single year we come up with a new type of flu and yes people die from it you are 100% correct wearing masks washing hands did stop a lot of people I'm catching a cold this year or even myself I just am curious why we're being manipulated into believing something that's not true about people dying and the way they died and like I said for 12 to 15 years I've looked up these records and now I have a here did nobody died from eating but covid 19 that's a freaking miracle I believe the inside that you were lied to or somebody's trying to manipulate you into believing something there's a reason behind it I'm curious what the reason is that's all
My cusion died from the covid vaccine. He was in his early 30s, has a two year old son and was due to me married. He probably could have survived covid but he couldn't exactly have survived a blood clot that caused him to have a stroke that caused him to have a bleed on brain that caused him to being a coma for a week before the doctor's decided to turn off his life support.
I had the vaccine myself but I do not think it is place to tell others what they should do with there body's and guilt them into something they don't feel comfortable with. Plus it's not really selfish for not wanting to have the vaccine. The vaccine does not stop people from getting covid it just minimises the side effects. I know loads of people who've had the vaccine and have still managed to get covid.
The vaccine isn't the cure unfortunately it's something we have to live with until we become immune. Some people may die and that's sad but that's life just like my cusion dying from this vaccine. They say it's rare yet I know multiple people who've had blood clots and 4 have died, one can no longer walk and luckily one came out okay so we know so far
That's there choice as long as there not choosing to do that to anyone else like their children but if it there body and they get sick they have no one else to blame but themselves
What vaccines are you actually talking about then if you are not just talking about the covid vaccine because I'm not aware of any other vaccines that prevent people from spreading viruses and diseases?
You can't really call anti-vaxxers "selfish." They're doing it for health reasons. People do have dominion over their own bodies.
It stems from fear, paranoia (lack of trust, conspiracy theory believers who are mistrusting.) It's not logic, exactly. Though there is some truth to the wariness. Some people get sucked in to others' chatter. They're gullible.
But mRNAs are new. And no one - absolutely no one - can guarantee that they are medically 100% safe. And they will be the future. Mark my words.
mRNAs are hormone disruptors, metabolic disruptors, immune disruptors, and neurologic disruptors.
Governments are doing what they can. It's a cost--risk-benefit scenario. Economies are stalled, millions are dying. They have to say "it's safe enough" because look at what is at stake right now.
But you should watch the judgement. You're too young to be this staunch. You don't understand the science.
I don't know about a menace, but they are getting very annoying. In fact conspiracy theories in general are becoming more wacky by the year. We used to have only a couple of conspiracy theories-- JFK, 9/11, moon landing, and ufo cover ups that people argued over. Now we've got all manner of lunatic horseshit. Flat earth, chem trails, killer toothpaste, reptilian shape shifters, illuminati, fake school shootings, weather manipulation by the government, ufo cow mutilation, fake space programs, and on and on. You'll never keep up with this shit. As far as vaccines go, how do these people think we got rid of polio and smallpox? A bunch of medicine men shaking a maraca? Oh I forgot, those diseases must have been fake too I guess, just like covid19. Lunacy. Just lunacy.
Lmao yeah, I've talked to some and they think vaccines are being used as population control 💀 BYE. If the elites controlled the population than their goes all the precious workers they exploit and underpay
I disagree with everything you said. Talk about disinformation.
I will say that not wanting the jab is not the same as being anti-vax. Am I anti-food if I prefer not to eat GMOs or toxic chemicals?
People have every right to decide what gets put into their bodies.
I think it's those who swallowed the covid scam hook, line and sinker who are selfish. They are the ones who ostracize friends and loved ones who don't agree with them. They are the ones who support the idea of coercing others to become lab rats in a new gene modification experiment that has already killed thousands and permanently damaged many, many more.
It is.. if you don’t get vaccinated you’re putting others with weaker immune systems or immune compromised people at risk. I never argued that people don’t have a right for what they put in their body, I’m arguing that it isn’t fair for these negligent people to hurt others with weak immune systems
I disagree with the premise. I don't think anyone has an obligation to put toxic substances into their body that won't benefit them in the least, just to make some people feel safer. I think the people who are afraid should lock themselves away and let others live normal lives.
One problem with your position is, people who get the jab can still contract covid and transmit it to others. So how are they making humanity any safer? At best, the jab will make their symptoms less severe if they catch covid. But it won't make the people they infect have milder symptoms. So in reality, people who get the jab should also stay away from the elderly and people with immune issues or preexisting conditions. And as far as children and babies are concerned, people under 20 years old have a 0.003% fatality rate even IF they catch covid and IF they receive zero treatment. The idea that we have to protect babies is actually absurd. They are in more danger from the common flu.
Are you fucking stupid. Vaccines are tested multiple times before being released, this is why anti vaxxers are menaces. They believe all the bull shit they see on facebook than wonder why people don’t like them even though they’re actively causing harm to others who actually can’t take vaccines for medical purposes.
America’s such a privileged country that dumb asses think that putting a vaccine in their body is toxic. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
And stop acting like im talking about covid, I never even mentioned covid. Anti vaxxers are people that reject all vaccines and shots so yes that would include taking a shot for the flu
You might consider industry that pollutes our air probably causes more of the problems you mention then not taking the vaccine. Who knows what carcinogens are being pumped into our atmosphere?
Since 1987, vaccine manufacturers have been immune from liability for injuries and deaths. There is no other industry that is immune from liabilty for damage caused by their products. In exchange for that immunity, vaccine manufacturers agreed to continually monitor the safety and efficacy of their products and send full reports to the FDA once a year. But they never followed through and the FDA did nothing about it. For over 30 years, vaccine manufacturers made more and more types of vaccines and made tremendous profit. Children today receive over 70 different vaccines. There are many injuries and deaths, but even if someone is able to prove causation, the U. S. taxpayers pay the settlements.
The bottom line is, vaccine manufacturers have a vested interest in raking in profits. That has made the vaccine industry one of the most powerful industries and lobbies in the country.
The covid gene modification treatment does not fit the legal or medical definition of a vaccine;. But they managed to get away with calling it a vaccine in order to insure no liability for any harm caused by the experimental treatment. The WHO and CDC have since changed their definition for vaccine.
Due to vaccine ingredients such as mercury and aluminum, vaccinated children are much less healthy than in the past. For example, the rate of autism used to be less than 1 in 2500. Now it's more like 1 in 54. But there are other health problems, too.
The covid jab has caused more deaths than all other vaccines in history combined. So it's no wonder that aware people refuse to participate in the experiment.
If the Covid vaccine is so important to take then why is the Government shipping illegal immigrants throughout the US without first vaccinating them or testing them for Covid? They don't seem to be so concerned with it. So I have no idea who is right or who is wrong because neither side has been able to prove anything. Like someone said when you see politicians publicly getting the vaccine shot was it really the vaccine or just sterile water? Too bad we were not in the Jim Carey movie where he was only able to tell the truth.
I never been vaccine in my life and its my freedom of choice. Not you or the goverment can do anything about.
How would like it. If they said you could no longer use your cellphone in public spaces? I bet you would be bitching about your freedom to do as you please
Say the made it agaist the law to talk about God
The police can walk right into your home and search it without your permission
The City take away your home without paying you.
Thats why we have something called THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOM
Just because they have loopholes around stuff doesn’t mean it’s good, American has loopholes on child marriage in most states. Does that make child marriage ethical or moral? No
Yes it literally is about morals, do you think it’s ok that you could possibly be putting someone’s child in danger because of your refusal to get vaccinated?
They don’t have the freedom to choose cause your choice fucked them over
Anti - Vaxers, no I don't think there's anything wrong with deciding what goes into your body. I think it's wrong to take it out of peer pressure from the government and society in general that's not genuine or honest. There's a lot of reasons for individuals not wanting to get it - from religion to health reasons, different views and takes on it.
I'm no anti-vaxer by all means but pushing people into one corner to take something the government is forcing upon them of which they're wary of is never going to end well and will undeniably cause conflict and division when they do legally have the right to deny the jab as per the Nuremburg code
I do however think it's wrong to set out convincing others that vaccines are a hoax when in reality millions have been saved with it. I think it's an important topic that needs discussion with muting respect
I'm not American and even I can see this is a characterisation.
It was Trump who advised people to take the vaccine his government created through "operation light-speed", and it was the Democrat politicians who said they would never take it, so take those lies and push off.
The difference between Trumpists and Socialists is that Trump didn't want to force people to take an injection they didn't want to take, the Socialists do - they want to make it impossible for people to live their lives without taking a rushed drug that we still don't know the long term side effects of.
@goaded There are videos out there of them saying they wouldn't. My second paragraph is the most important, your country's Democrats have resorted to bribery and coercion to force people to take the vaccine, treating those who do not want to (or cannot for medical reasons) take the vaccine as 3rd class citizens.
When I took my last vaccine it caused permanent sensory loss; and since every biological entity is different, ignorant people with superiority complexes will not care about the damage they deal to those who experience side effects.
@goaded why would I believe a self obsessed narcissist who doesn't care about the health and wellbeing of others and supports those who bribe and coerce people by taking away their freedoms and only offering them back if they submit to their will - that's authoritarian.
@goaded What lies? All you have done is avoided the main argument and argued over semantics.
Coersion: By taking away people's civil liberties and only giving them back if they submit to your will. cnbc. com/2021/08/13/unvaccinated-people-face-more-covid-restrictions-in-future. html
Bribery: Offering something to weaker minded people in exchange for submitting to your will. ft. com/content/9955d68a-6bd9-4530-b103-afc034243cb3 BBC. co. uk/news/world-57201111
Treating the unvaccinated (mostly minorities and poor people) as 3rd rate citizens, and giving already privileged people (demographically speaking) even more privileges sums up the American left.
I focused on the obvious lie in your opinion, sue me. To me, a lie overshadows any other point you might have tried to make. Refusing to admit you were wrong just proves there wouldn't have been any point in a discussion.
Nah your way off. All the current science shows that we simply do not need vaccines at all. They have been made superfluous by things like chlorination, refrigeration, Soap, proper cooking, cleaner methods of animal farming and sewage disposal. We just dont need them. Back in the 50s, yeah sure, a lot of people were still living rough. Its a common misperception people have about how nature works. Germs are not trying to kill you and they are not evolving to be more deadly all the time. Our immune system is not in an arms race with germs. Quite the opposite in fact. All life forms are evolving healthy co-dependant relationships. Everyone has Covid living in them right now, It cannot exsist outside of a host so we all have it and good luck getting rid of it. Might as well try to weed a flower bed the size of texas with a pair of tweezer!
Getting the vaccine doesn't stop one from passing it on to another, as far as I'm aware.
I don't see what's so selfish about not trusting information that's shoved down our throats by the media and the politicians, the most honest of them all (!).
If nothing else, I don't see an issue with waiting around to see if the vaccine has long term effects or not, not everyone wants to take the chances and I don't blame them.
Well, I understand where you're coming from, but I think I see where they're coming from, like from what I've HEARD (I'm not 100% on this, so I'm not saying it's true), that many years ago, a lot of diseases/illnesses simply didn't exist and nowadays, there's one for everything now that jabs and general vaccines are common, as well chemicals in our food and food being processed. Sorry if that sounds unclear, but it's hard to explain and I am going by what I've heard some say.
Many years ago people died younger because many illness did exist and Medicine wasn’t as advanced so humans had a lower life expectancy.
Now a days considerably less illnesses are as deadly as they were before because of the development of vaccines and shots/ of course the American healthcare system isn’t the best mostly because it’s one of the least developed in the western world but that’s mostly because of pricing.
If you can’t afford medical expenses, the US doesn’t care and you’ll die. Healthcare arguably should be free in the US.
And the chemicals in our food are just a result of capitalism and consumerism in America. Businesses processing and making these foods aren’t concerned with the quality of the food but they’re concerned with the money they get from selling the food.
Farmers are literally going out of business and having a hard time to make a living, not to mention the fact that farmers are being forced to over work their soil to meet the demands of their sellers which is causing irreversible damage. This isn’t really related to vaccines but it is an interesting topic
People think the chemicals in the food are what causes issues and vaccines/shots may help prevent one illness whilst causing another. Good information though, thanks.
No they aren't. You should always have a choice. If a vaccine is required for a holiday or workplace then it's a given. But if you feel you dont need the flu vaccine because you dont get ill from common viruses then that should be fine. Some peoples immune systems are very good and some are not. But why should a strong immune system be interfered with? With age it changes and then the person will decide again what's best for them. Most people know when they need something.
I’m not really referring to those, anti vaxxers are people who refuse to take all vaccines. Meaning vaccines that are mandatory to prevent certain illnesses. By not taking those they can harm immune compromised people, babies that are too young to take vaccines, and elders
i get there are religious folk who are anti-medicine, the question mark is if they are a minority in which case it won't matter because they couldnt cause an epidemic. In my school kids just got them anyway because the parents werent there. It was sort of peer-pressure as everyone else around them were getting them and they felt left out.
The amount of anti vaxxers are rising, you can give a big thanks to Facebook being crack for adults. If more people are anti vax it definitely can bring back more bs. Anti vaxxers also literally puts children at risk as their immune systems aren’t as strong yet.
It’s not fair these peoples “choices” are harming and have the potential to harm others
If the vaccines work so well, what do you have to worry about? If the vaccines work, my not being vaccinated should have zero affect upon you. The information that I have seen tells me that the vaccines are a DNA bioweapon that has 100 per cent kill rate within five years. Enjoy what time you have left. Anyone who attempts to vaccinate me will be killed, as an act of self defence. What happened to 'my body, my choice'?
Yeah I think they're selfish. If they're endangering the lives of infants that are too young to get the vaccine or people with compromised immune systems then they're a harm to society. Some people are not getting the vaccine because they have some stupid beliefs or agenda they want to keep up
I think it should be considered neglect if parents withhold their kids from getting the vaccine without any valid reasons. I mean the first and foremost important thing in that scenario is the kid’s wellbeing.
It’s unfortunate. There’s two type of people who say the vaccine is a hoax, the ones who believe it and the ones who don’t, and typically it’s the one who don’t that are convincing the ones that do.
Not all vaccines are the same. Not all are safe. Not all are FDA approved or time-tested. Every drug you take has side effects of some sort, some small, some big. I don’t think you can broadly call anti-vaxers a menace to society. It’s a delicate balance between individual rights and societal well-being. The greater question is who makes or should make that determination. Just sayin.
To preface, I'm vaccinated. While I was hesitant about getting it due to it being a new, untested medical procedure (particularly how it may effect us many years from now), I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had all other prior vaccines without question. But I'd argue that it's selfish of others to think they can control other's body's or their medical procedures just so they can feel safer going outside.
In a way yes and no. You have to understand some people just aren't comfortable injecting somethings into their bodies for medical and religious reasons wheather you agree with it or not.
I got seriously sick once by taken medication which the doctor told me to go see her after 3 days which I didn't obey and paid for it big time which felt I was about to die, so I don't want to inject something into my body unless it's a serious emergency on my behalf.
Who is trying to force you to get vaccines in the first play, and yes I’m gonna act condescending to anti vaxxers cause their beliefs are actively putting others in danger and that’s the issue
Good, that is the proper definition. First, let's stop calling anyone who refuses the vaccine an "anti-vaxxer" because that is inaccurate.
There are those that get vaccines for certain diseases because of the lethality it brings. Choosing to not receive one does not make them an anti vaxxer.
A lot of individuals who chose not to get the vaccine wish to take their chances. It is a decision that has been made unpopular all across the board because it is against the current push for the status quo on what expected on the global population. How is it we get a choice to choose to decide which vaccines we may or may not get because of perception on how it will affect us or refusal for medical or religious purposes? We can refuse others, but you are suddenly demon spawn incarnate for choosing not to get just one specific vaccine? I find that ridiculous. You don't mandate people to get flu shots every year. You don't mandate people to update their booster shots. It is advised, but it is not a big deal in they eyes of others that refuse those others. But if you don't get the COVID vaccine, you are a terrible person who doesn't care about anyone or the world and god help you otherwise. That is what is being thrown back at those who refuse it, which is not only disgusting and rude behavior, but manipulation to the highest degree. Civil disagreement is something people need to be able to have without wanting to become hostile over something simple like that.
You got an opinion different than mine? Fine, cool. Let's leave it at that. Just because we differ on an opinion doesn't make us terrible people. So let's get away from that.
They are selfish. That's why they die. I am loving it at the moment. A ton of them are dying or become crippled. Too bad some innocent people have to die because of them but it's the anti-vaxers fault.
Remove the spaces and look at who is actually dying. It damn sure ain't us we are fine. htt ps://thevaccinereaction. org/2021/08/vaccinated-people-are-being-hospitalized-for-covid-and-dying/? fbclid=IwAR0zmGptaelQ08KQ_PE0sRWjLKw6No8_p0WPgEEZnTnJVq9z7spgHghV16g
@goaded None of that is true I know people who lost family members after getting the shot. It is Russian roulette. Spreadable viruses aren't real and if this hoax was real you would be seeing everyone sick in public dropping like flies during the past 16 months. You would be seeing nonstop ambulances and a hearse driving by all the time. How much have that have you seen? It is s scam.
@Solstice77 "Spreadable viruses aren't real" Oh, thank goodness, a nutcase online has told me that there's no such thing as colds, flu, warts, measles, mumps, etc., and doctors have all been wrong for the last couple of hundred years!
@goaded No it's all real just not caused the wsy they tell you it is. Germ theory has bern used to bring tyranny to the world and crazy people like uou accept it. Viruses are your body's natural reaction to toxicity. The flu is s drtox. Fuck doctors they parrot what thry are told. Oh yes you gonna answer my question or just ignore it because it proves me right? No pandemic and you know it but since you lean liberal the truth doedn't matter.
They die they die its their ball game. Now I did get my two vaccines and now, a third that is being suggested... If my company is going to make me go for it I am not going to. I already had my fill with two already and they sucked also I am getting the plastic q tip shoved up my nose every two weeks for general job safety.
I am not an anti vaxxer nor do I believe covid is a hoax. I got fully vaccinated 5 months ago. But I feel that mandating vaccines for very low risk people is government authoritarian bullshit. Kids your age should NOT be getting the vaccine unless you are obese and/or have a major contributing factor (immuno complications). More kids die of the flu every year than Covid. That is what bothers me.
You are brainwashed. Vaccines contain heavy metals, formaldehyde and other dangerous chemicals. All anyone needs to do is read a vaccine insert to see that they are poison. Your doctor is not gonna tell you to read a vaccine insert or tell you about possible side effects.
That is literally the point, you get sick so you get an immunity. That’s how the shot works.
Flu vaccines cause antibodies to develop in the body about two weeks after vaccination. These antibodies provide protection against infection with the viruses that are used to make the vaccine.
That’s why after getting it you don’t get a worst version of the seasonal flu or risk getting it again
No the shot makes people sick because it is attacking their immune system. It is a reaction to toxicity you are being brainwashed to believe something that is ridiculous because paid liars on TV say so.
I got Pfizer, Different types of vaccines work in different ways to offer protection. But with all types of vaccines, the body is left with a supply of “memory” T-lymphocytes as well as B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus in the future.
You can literally check the ingredients, none of them are harmful. What’s weird is that you think we live in a dystopian society with a tyrannical government that wants to murder us with vaccines. Trust me, global warming will probably take out humanity way before the government can
The psycho pro-vaxxer crowed isn't any better. There's just as much blind trust. People who are finger wagging at anti-vaxxers will also just put whatever the fuck they're old into their body. Those people have no business telling others what to do either. Just try to make an informed *individual* choice for *yourself* then sit the fuck down and be quiet.
I didn't stay vaccines where bad, I said people's attitude about *these* vaccines are fkn creepy. And your reaction is just the kind of thing I'm talking about, stop being so creepy about it.
The reality that you have no idea what testing what done or if it's anything other than saline. They just say things and people reply with "sure, stick it in me" but you have no idea. The point is don't get all uppity when you know as little as they do.
I'm fully vaccinated, but you don't see me going around being a freak at people for not getting it yet. If everyone chilled the heck out about it then more people might be comfortable with getting it, but the natural reaction is to not trust frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics. So when people start screeching about getting vaccinated then many others are naturally going to want to lean away from that craziness.
Ignore the peer pressure to get vaccinated and instead consult your personal doctor first to see if it's right for you. Many people have allergies or illnesses that prevent them from being able to take it, but they won't know that until they talk to their doctor, meanwhile the psychos are offering vaccinations to random people in the street. That's lunacy. Talk to your doctor before accepting a needle of who-knows-what from a stranger in a gas station -- and yes that's actually thing people were doing with the vaccines.
* many people; dude 3% of adults in the US have a suppressed or weakened immunity.
No ones peer pressuring you to get vaccinated lmao. Lmao who tf is over here giving counterfeit covid shots like they’re BBL’s.
If you want to get covid shots in America we’re privileged, all you need to do is sign up than get you get your appointment literally a day later at your local cvs or something.
And I already specified I’m specifically not talking about immune compromised individuals that are unable to take the vaccines for medical purposes
“ dude 3% of adults in the US have a suppressed or weakened immunity.” Yeah, that’s a lot of people. Way fewer people than that die from the virus, so if you expect that 3% to be an effective argument then we’re better of just letting people get the virus.
“No ones peer pressuring you to get vaccinated lmao.” Oh bullshit. B u l l s h i t. No way. Vaccine shaming has more infected cases than the virus itself. It’s constant and it’s everywhere. It’s obviously all over the news, but even if I go watch a Twitch stream or something there’s often these snarky comments about vaccines. And look, here we are on social media hearing it again.
“ who tf is over here giving counterfeit covid shots like they’re BBL’s.” They there real shots as far as we know. They put it on YouTube. It was more of that vaccine moral superiority BS. If it was an actual drug dealer trying to sell you happy times in a needle they aren’t being smug about it like “look at me and how benevolent I am”, like the weirdos pushing the vaccines.
“And I already specified I’m specifically not talking about immune compromised individuals that are unable to take the vaccines for medical purposes” And I specified that I am talking about the people don’t consider those people and want to make it rain vaccines as a virtue signal. These people will get their shot and then post a video of it on Twitter and pair it with some snobby barb about people not getting vaccinated. It’s all just social capital.
The vaccine literally does not protect you against the virus lol. My mom got it and she still got the virus, for some reason I didn't show any symptoms and I'm not vaxxed
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Of course anti-vaxxers are a menace to everyone they come in contact with, as well as to themselves. They cannot be reasoned with at all, because their arrogance and narcissism get in the way of any critical thinking on their part.
If we are talking about traditional vaccines they definitely have value. If we are talking about flu shots and Covid shots, they don’t work. You’re better off just getting the flu or Covid and building the natural immunity.
Apparently the experts don’t really trust the vaccine either. Since they are talking about a third shot. And making everyone vaccinated wear a mask. There is no incentive to get the vaccine if life doesn’t change! by the way. I have both shots
I just don't believe that this vaccine is on worth putting into my body. I believe that the severity oh covid-19 is a hoax. Covid-19 is more about politic control than saving lives.
I never said anything about covid 19 in the first place but covid isn’t a hoax, I've had family die from it. Just because you’re not vulnerable to it doesn’t mean a family or friend isn’t and that’s what matters
All your pictures are in reference to covid-19, so yes you did. The have even said the vaccine does nothing to keep you from carrying it and giving it to others
Anti vaxx has been around longer tham covid-19, there definitely are ones not involving covid-19. But I understand its probably hard to find now because its not relevant
I don't like wearing clothes. I like the freedom of walking around with nothing on. I don't have to wear clothes when I go and pick up my kids from school, do I?
What does this have to with the vaccines? But I heard there are a tons of nudists in the Quora site and I am speaking to a few of them. I guess if you aren't to worried about others opinions and probably having people try to and arrest you I say be free from clothing. If this is a real question or not?
The very simple point is that you're not entirely free of sociatal rules outside your own home (and then only if the curtains are closed). If it's deemed better for society that I wear clothes around a school, why can't it be deemed better that I should be vaccinated (which is required for multiple other diseases).
Society is inherently built for selfish menaces to prosper... not sure why anti vaxxers are being focused as selfish when there's billionaires amongst other things in existence.
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brainwashed child thinks she knows shit XD where you get your faith in these politicians and business people I’ll never know. You are religious, just like the fanatical muslims
Me being anonymous has no bearing on my argument. The fact is that your belief is faith based. There is tons of evidence contradicting your belief but you ignore it because it doesn’t come from the right priest
Lmao they still think the election was fraudulent 😭 like they can’t take the L for this one. You didn’t see democrats go an raid the capital when Hillary loss in the previous election
Please don't get injected with unapproved drugs that are deliberately designed to hurt you or kill you. The TAKERS of these dangerous injections are the menace
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It's not about being "anti-vax". It's about being against a dangerous drug that is NOT a vaccine. These injections do NOT prevent you from getting ANYTHING.
If you look at the history of the rise of authoritarian regimes, the boogeyman that they used to consolidate state power was a hostile country or a subversive faction (cough *China cough *BLM), not a force of nature. However, downplaying the danger posed by forces of nature has a long history of being used to consolidate private power by limiting collective efforts against it and allowing businesses to take advantage of the public in a time of crisis.
Oh, what was that like a year ago that you had it -_- It's not like you never get the flu two consecutive years in a row.
I care about complacency giving the virus an opportunity to evolve into new variants which is why new case numbers are at their highest point since February 2nd and deaths are at their highest since May 30th.
@Ad_Quid_Orator sorry, science says it’s a likely a lifetime immunity. The Indian variant was out before the vaccine. Your vaccine also doesn’t prevent you from spreading covid-19, hence the CDC reversing it’s mask recommendations. So, do you want me to get the shot because of science-based knowledge or because you want to control me? It’s an either/or proposition.
It's a lifetime immunity to the alpha variant, not the delta variant but science also says that you are 15 times less likely to contract the alpha variant if you were vaccinated and 8 times less likely to contract the delta variant. But since the vaccine isn't 100% effective, while the virus is still prevalent in large quantities, it's still best to wear a mask in case the vaccination is unsuccessful.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You have no evidence that natural immunity doesn’t work against the delta variant. None. The real issue is you’re upset you got suckered into taking a shitty vaccine. So you’re taking your anger out on those who didn’t opt to get the vaccine. Now you suckers need a booster. A booster for a vaccine they told you was 96% effective less than a year after getting the original stick.
"You have no evidence that natural immunity doesn’t work against the delta variant. None."
Apart from the fact that new variants of every other pathogen can re-infect people so until you can show data that it doesn't re-infect people who had the alpha variant the default assumption is that it does.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Only if the variant is too different and the immune system doesn’t recognize it, which you have ZERO. Let’s say it again, ZERO evidence it does. So you’re back to only wanting me to get vaccinated because you’re having buyer’s remorse.
If exposure to the alpha variant made you immune to the delta variant, than the decrease in risk of contraction from vaccination would be the same for both variants.
@Ad_Quid_Orator so let me get this straight. I should get vaccinated with a shot that doesn’t protect me from the delta variant to achieve the same immunity I have from a prior infection? You do realize how fucking stupid that sounds, right?
And do you not realize how stupid you sound when you conflate the vaccine not being as effective at preventing infection by the delta variant as it is against the alpha variant with it being ineffective against the delta variant?
@Ad_Quid_Orator psst. You’re going to need a third booster, soon. So I think you got lied to. And you know you got lied to. Your vaccine was sold to you with a 97% effectiveness. Does your brain recall that, still? Or does the spike protein and mask wearing cut off oxygen to your brain cells?
I recall them also saying that the effectiveness will decrease over time after the initial vaccination (like from 97% to 93.5%) so you lacked the brain cells to comprehend basic medicine even before this pandemic started.
@Ad_Quid_Orator lmao. So then the vaccine is not as effective as natural immunity as you so state. And really? You’re not even 6 month since you got your vaccine. Lol. Like I’d almost feel bad for your stupidity at this point. If you knew you needed a booster when the shots first came out, you’d have been told you need three. Weird how people with natural immunity don’t need boosters.
Except just because the effectiveness of the vaccine decreases as time passes after the initial vaccination doesn't mean that at some point it will become less effective at preventing an infection than a previous exposure dumbass: www.wtol.com/.../512-cb25aabe-055c-4094-8ac8-fd879097cef7
@Ad_Quid_Orator That’s 100% what it means, moron. Otherwise you wouldn’t need a “booster” less than a year after two rounds of the vaccine. It’s you dirty vaccinated people spreading the delta variant.
@Ad_Quid_Orator absolutely not. Not on any realm of reality. But considering the amount of bullshit you’ve swallowed for a year and a half, This extra scoop isn’t surprising.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You are the one who says - without medical evidence - that I need the vaccine. You have no medical basis for me getting the vaccine, you only want to control the people who don’t get the vaccine. You want my compliance. You don’t care about public health. This is your bed you made, no matter how much gaslighting and mis-using phrases you do.
It's not about you needing the vaccine any more than it's about control. It's about limiting the number of people the virus can infect and thus limiting how many opportunities that the virus has to mutate or recombine into a new variant and pushing us backward. You know like the delta variant is?
@Ad_Quid_Orator You’re the one who wears a mask after being vaccinated. The CSC reversed it’s guidance on masks for a reason. There’s covid breaking out on fully vaccinated cruises for a reason. Any one who is remotely intelligent knows this reason.
@Ad_Quid_Orator lol, I’m not wasting time searching through all your bullshit. Go ahead and play. But you’ll be playing by yourself. You know I know the truth.
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