It was definitely not made up. The vaccines are not 100% effective, they just open your body to the virus, to fight it off easier, since the antibodies were already created into our systems, this doesn't prevent the virus from entering our bodies. Also, not 100% people are vaccinated, so even if vaccines were some how 100% effective, it could still spread through the people that are not infected. Covid has a higher death rate than most viruses that we know of, and is one of the most transmittable virus that we know of, Covid is also a fairly new virus, Covid is a cousin to SARS, in which the first outbreak happened in 2002, So with it being generally new, there isn't a whole lot we know about it.
In conclusion, there was no hidden agenda, there is no brain washing happening, they are also not forcing their beliefs onto people. If someone wanted to brainwash people, you do it through Schooling, controlling what can be seen on the internet, and why make up a virus that kills over 5 million people, when you could just bomb your enemies, or use the CIA to take people out secretively.
For sake of discussion however, I would like to know, if there is hidden agendas, what is their goal with their brainwashing and forcing beliefs on to people? Is it to have complete control over the citizens in their countries? Is it to make everyone a democrat so democrats can win elections since they are basically rigged? What is the reasoning to brainwash everyone?
You mean those rich and powerful business people who have lost a shit load of money due to global lockdowns, having ti put employees on furlough.
Yeah never ended like erm flu, Hepatitis, Yellow Fever, and half a ton of other vaccines that you have to keep taking.
There are very few one shot vaccines in existence.
For example meningococcal vaccine.
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It is also recommended that young adults receive the MenB vaccine before attending college or other settings in which they will live in close quarters with other people. This vaccine lasts for one or two years, after which you will need a booster shot to keep up your immunity. Since bacterial meningitis is contagious, vaccinating young adults can prevent the spread in dormitories, boarding schools, and military barracks.
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https://www.medicinenet.com/how_long_does_the_meningitis_vaccine_last/article.htm
If COVID-19 was created on purpose or not I don't know but what I know is that
Covid is REAL and it KILLS people.
A very close and dear friend of my parents died by cause of covid.
He was a pastor.
He left behind his offspring, wife, family and friends. And everything...
Others acquaintances of my parents and family also died.
So it's impossible for me not to believe.
Better take the jabs not to pass Covid on anyone and minimise the virus effects if you ever have.
At least, that's what I've been told.
SARS and COVID are both from the coronavirus, and are very similar. Google it ☮️ 🇺🇸
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You know, I might not be anywhere near famous yet, but after starting to meet and hang out with some fairly big names in the entertainment and modelling world recently it fucking makes me laugh so hard every time someone starts talking about Illuminati and how big they think the conspiracy theories are and the elite and influential rule the world and are fueling all of these big fucking deep rabbit holes. 'Cause, big shocker to everyone but... the "elite" and influential and people with pull in the world are probably dealing with a lot fucking bigger problems in their lives than trying to keep you and the rest of the "masses" down and at the heel of whatever conspiracy you imagine they sit around all day cooking up. They're likely dealing with a lot of the same shit you're dealing with just on a much smaller but still impactful scale and a lot of their families and friends are normal everyday people just like yourself but no, idiots never fucking think about any of this.
And of course it's still going after 2 vaccinations (not injections). If you clearly know nothing about the development of vaccines and research into new viruses and their variants work then please shut the fuck up and just keep your stupidity off of here.
And for the love of fuck, please don't breed.
Someone disagrees but isn't big enough to tell me why.
I'll be waiting.
No politician's imagination put me in a coma for 3 months, caused every organ in my body to fail leaving me susceptible to kidney failure that may mean I could need a transplant eventually - a death sentence for me in South Africa: I'm the wrong age, nationality and colour here.
If your ignorance means you risk your life then I wish you the same torture-filled existence I've had over the last 20 months, including kidney failure, heart failure, four hours CPR to restart your heart after it stops, fifteen months (so far) physical therapy to recover your strength and the loss of your leg below the knee...
Conspiracy theory fuckwits spreading uncontrolled ignorance to the nth degree seriously need to be blocked from access to the internet.
You definitely had something. Those aren't typical Covid symptoms as far as I know.
Covid was made more contagious in a lab during gain of function research. That has been proven. Why would they do that? Probably for money🤑, the reason everybody does everything for the last 100 years or so🤯. All the fucking ass 🤡 clowns still think it came from people eating bats🦇🍽️. If that were the case, we would have been getting covid from bats since people started eating bats, which was around the same time people started living in fucking caves. So we would have already been immune to it by now if it really came from people eating bats. There will always be a new covid variant you will need a vaccine for, because the drug companies will not want to stop soaking up your tax dollars the gov is giving them for the vaccines.
Oh! So I got sick with a made up disease?
And when I got PCR tested after getting sick (despite me never getting sick with flu), the test was positive because of what? "Them" faking results? I didn't report being sick before test results since I didn't know if it is COVID.
I'd imagine it was man made. I wouldn't be surprised if China has, or had, intentions of modifying it to affect certain demographics, but I don't think it's likely that this was a globally coordinated plan by the world's top elites to do this. It very well could be, but as of now, I'm not convinced. It seems more likely that it was simply gain-of-function research that went wrong and got out of control.
So... just to be clear... China manufactured this and then... released it on themselves?
And then caused 8 months of civil unrest and a full-blown riot throughout Wuhan?
What's the endgame in this conspiracy narrative of yours?
And you realize that SARS-COVID was discovered as early as 1997?
Yes. And in order to weaponize a virus it first has to be reverse-engineered just like capturing stolen enemy weaponry.
In other words, it has to be cultured (i. e. grown in a lab from it's own cells).
This hasn't even been successfully done with Ebola and that's been around since the 1970s so the notion it could be done with SARS-COVID is kind of absurd if you know even a little about cellular biology and viral research. But people always prefer fiction over fact.
Your initial post.
"I imagine it was man made".
Is what I was arguing against.
But you've seemingly backtracked on that completely so you've already folded on that one. We're good here.
No, you're mistaken. I haven't backtracked at all. You're arguing that the virus was not weaponized, and I didn't say the virus was weaponizes. I said it was man-made. Bring made by man and being made as a weapon are not the same thing. I'm referring to gain of function research, which is man made, which in nearly all cases is not weaponized. You seriously need to chill the hell out because you're having a fit over your own delusions.
No fit. You're just making a lot of assumptions.
So what was the endgame of this, if this is where you think it came from? Avengers references will be shot down.
I'm simply trying to figure out how one believes it's man-made when there were already about 50 different variants of SARS running around even before 1997 that were doing fine without any Human interference. If anyone wants to argue that SARS itself was man-made, that's a WHOLE other can of worms because SARS itself originated from a Batcave like Batman. This is a fact. SARS was traced back to a specific colony of Bats shortly after the 2003 outbreak in 2005.
Because that's the scientific consensus. And it's the most reasonable answer. A novel bat carona virus occurs where their natural habit isn't, coincidentally by a high tech virology lab that just so happened to have the world largest collection of bat carona viruses that was already doing experiments to make viruses more potent.
But no, that's just a big coincidence, right?
Okay, certainly the bat was found in an area it wasn't supposed to be in. But again you're talking about coronavirus specifically. But this is an offshoot of SARS and that in itself has been around for decades and did not originate in the same location as COVID19 near this supposed biohazard lab.
My assumptions are less conspiracy based. I'd hate to say it, but by nature, conspiracy-aligned claims and theories are generally less reasonable than the usually more rational and simple alternative that's often presented. And, if history has taught anything, it's that history takes the simple path, rarely the outlandish path.
Quite frankly, your stance is the conspiracy. Despite overwhelming evidence that it is man-made, you're asserting it is of natural origin.
And yeah, I'm not claiming Sars was a result of gain of function research getting out of hand. It's like you think "if SARS is naturally occuring, then anything related to it must be naturally occuring too" as if gain of function research isn't a thing. The logic quite literally is not there.
And I'd love for you to address each point in my third most recent response (not including this one), and then explain to me how it's more reasonable to assert those are coincidences and that despite all of that, it's just a natural occurrence. And please provide more rationale other than "it's just naturally occuring 🤷♂️." Because if that's all you've got, it doesn't stand a remote chance against all the reasons I stated it is likely a man-made virus gone wrong.
Nope, nothing to work on, you're the only one who seems to be picking up any combative vibes. You're trying to antagonize me for some reason and find reasons to that aren't really there.
If I wanted to be combative with you I'd call you a fuckin' moron or something. Haven't even flown to that destination.
But I'm getting tired of this thread showing up in my notifications and it's really not going anywhere so I'm gonna cut this short.
And I'm not going to address every point in your third response, I already did and you just dismissed them because you apparently hate facts that don't align with your shit. See? You're the one being combative.
Frankly I gave multiple points for my view and you dismissed them so I'm kinda done here. Logic has flown the coop here.
Please look up the history of the SARS infection to educate yourself better on the origins and biology of the virus.
Have a good night.
Yeah, I'm sure the (wrongful) elipses here weren't intended to be condescending:
"So... just to be clear... China manufactured this and then... released it on themselves?"
And I'm sure regarding my perspective as "absurd" was meant kindly.
And using terminology like "backtracked" and how I supposedly "folded" my argument (rather than talking normally) aren't remarks typically used firmly oppositional disagreements (put lightly).
I assume "no fit" was a typo for "no shit." (Though I could be wrong on that one, I was unsure when I first saw it)
And you have other subtler remarks I could elaborate on, but I'm sure you get the point. So with all due respect, I'm not so sure I'm convinced that these combative vibes are all in my head.
And I've already stated you're being passive aggressive, not aggressive, so your remark that "you're clearly not being combative because you're not calling me a fucking moron" is just a silly strawman.
And you quite literally did not address my points. If you have, which you haven't, please reiterate them (or point me to where you did) because I would genuinely be interested in hearing them. You say "I gave multiple points to my view" but "giving points to your view" is not addressing my points. Additionally, your "points" don't support that covid-19 wasn't man made, it asserts that all other SARS-like viruses aren't man-made, which you hope implies covid-19 couldn't be man made, but it doesn't imply that. Because as I've already refuted, a number of strains being natural doesn't inhibit a virology lab's ability to perform gain-of-functiom research. Like it's literally not a logical point. I sincerely hope you don't shy away from this discussion, but I do agree this is becoming unnecessarily tedious, so I won't be too bothered if you do.
And just as a cherry-on-the-top, regarding your supposed lack of combativeness, your use of "we're good here" is another example. In a normal discussion, people don't use that phrases the way you do. It's clearly meant to be cheeky, as if you've intellectually conquered the other person's point. You clearly did not genuinely mean "we are good, here." I don't know who you're trying to fool but we're both adults, and nearly any potential onlookers will be as well. You might convince a child of that, but you won't be convincing anyone else.
Wow.
Like, the level of angry you are is just unreal.
No, "no fit" was responding to your earlier message but I guess you're so focused on antagonizing me that you can just assume what you want at this point.
Seriously dude, go get fuckin' laid, this is just ridiculous. You're incapable of interacting beyond piecing apart other people's messages and trying to find shit that isn't there to antagonize them with. I'm not even gonna respond to your claims that I didn't address anything you said, you're just trying to be intentionally ignorant and piss me off but I'm immune to stupidity so it doesn't work that way.
THAT was an insult. See the difference?
I don't know if this is wishful thinking on your behalf or what, but I couldn't be more unperturbed. You came into this with a clear, combative intention. I knew precisely how this was going to go. Acknowledging someone's passive aggression is not an indication that someone is angry, nor is exemplifying it after they claimed they hadn't been combative. It's a normal, logical sequence of conversation, actually.
And I find it interesting that the one example you wanted to address was the one I specifically said I was unsure of. If you genuinely meant "not fit," then I'm not familiar with that phrase/terminology, nor what you were referring to.
And I'm not focused on antagonizing you, I'm responding to you claiming that you're not being antagonistic when you clearly are. I've been literally asking you to have a civil conversation, void of all this disdain, yet I'm the one whose mad? Is that why you say things like "dude you need to get fuckin' laid"? It's clear that you're governed by your emotions and your ego can't handle when someone calls you out for being a bitter and unpleasant. Perhaps it's not me who would benefit from getting laid. And you still have yet to refute any points I made about your clear antagony.
Regarding your "THAT was an insult. See the difference?" remark, I never claimed you insulted me. I've said, at least twice now, that you're being passive-aggressive, not blatantly insulting. Oddly enough, you already attempted to make this claim when you said "if I wanted to be combative with you I'd call you a fuckin' moron." Which I, too, responding with explaining how that doesn't refute the notion that you're being passive-aggressive. Being calling me a "fuckin' moron" or regarding me as "stupid" is not passive aggression. And it's a little ironic that you're questioning my intelligence but not only appear to not understand this (simple) concept, but persistently fail to understand despite it having already been explained at least once (let alone in recent memory).
As for your "you're incapable of interacting beyond piecing apart other people's messages" as if my interaction with you didn't include me listing several facts indicating the nature of this virus being man-made. And funnily enough, despite you claiming I'm incapable of interacting, I seem to recall that it was you who failed to address (interact with) those points.
Now, you said you're going to be done here, but you're still here. If you're going to be done, then be done so that we aren't wasting each other's time. But if you're not going to be done, please address the points I asked you to address before you were supposedly done. If you fail to do so, I'll be forced to assume your stance has no foundation (or at least more so than I already do).
I'm literally dumber from having talked to you. I have cancer now. I developed cancer from this. Thank you.
Covid is real. It's just not as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. It's basically just an aggressive flu at this point. People die from the normal flu all the time and no one loses their minds about it.
So the world can't get along at all.
Can't collaborate for shit about 95% of policies and procedures worldwide wars constantly over lands or religion.
But they all got together and worked together for this 1 thing.
Okie👍🏽
it is real (a super cold) but was made into a crisis by liberals for political gains and cover to steal elections. The main reason that the few that did die was because most had diabetes. In the end , when you study their medical records , the 2 or 3 kids that died , and the fat people, and the old people , they will have had diabetes.
It's not made up it is real BUT, it is not the pandemic it is made out to be. It is a strain of flu, but the death rate is no worse than the normal flu.
If you look up the real numbers, you will see it is more contagious but not more deadly. In many the complications may be worse than other forms of flu but in the end, in my opinion it has been used to put government controls in place (around the world) in an effort to limit our freedoms.
Lets think about that. Say Covid and the flu have almost an identical fatality but as shown, have differing contagiousness with COVID being vastly higher. In the same time frame, the flu may infect 10,000 people and Covid infects 100,000 people. Even with a similar mortality rate, COVID is gonna result in many many more people dying. I am not saying you are, but a lot of people obsess over mortality rates, but in my opinion its the contagiousness that can really predict the diseases threat to society and additionally, what places COVID in a different ballpark to the seasonal flu.
@dafssdlfjasdf What I said, and the numbers confirm is even thought more people are coming down with Covid there is no increase in deaths compared to the normal flu. So yes, more people are getting sick, but deaths are not proportionally going up as governments would have you believe. I am not saying it is not more miserable than other forms of the flu because from what I have read it is.
The COVID-19 pandemic is real, it wasn't made up. There is some evidence that it may have started as a mistake in a lab somewhere. But I've seen no evidence that it was created intentionally.
You need to get a grip of reality and quit listening to joe Rogan podcasts
@Nazgol If she reads it again she will see that you "think" it was made up by powerful politicians who have hidden agendas. How is it that a "made up" disease has killed hundreds of thousands of people? And you do not believe it is real because it is still athreat after two injuctions. Yet even the flu has been around making people sick after they get yearly injections. It looks like @doopayo read it just fine and You should go back and read it!
@doopayo Sorry about the looses in your family. And you are obviously a 15 year old that a cedrtain question asker should respect and pay attention to.
m it's quite obvious to me that the elite doesn't need COVID to control us...
our education systems though, that's working quite well for them, evidently...
No, but is was used to steal an election and now it is being used to get people used to having the federal government control every aspect of their lives.
"COVID-19" is simply an identifier name for the China-Virus, which is a real virus, that was deliberately created to match up with the so-called vaccines which had ALREADY been created. YES, that's RIGHT. The COVID Death Jabs were concocted BEFORE the China-Virus was released
Yes it was made up in a lab in Wuhan China. It was made to thin the population and put the government in control of your health and well-being. It's pretty bad when the government has to bribe citizens to get a shot. What's that telling you
The black death lasted about 4 years and probably only died out because over 70% of the entire population died. I'm not surprised.
I don't think there's anyone benefiting enough from this for it to be a set up.
Hardly. In the US alone 800,000 people have died. Those are excess deaths over the normal death rate.
People get sick all the time.
It is just a power grab.
Look at my country I escaped from. NZ.
I came to USA
PM used covid to fuck up the middle class and spy on civilians
No, because I had it and I was so unwell - it's just been blown out of proportion.
Made up, no, it’s legit. Politicized and blown out of proportion for sure though
No. Regarding your update: not everybody got two injections, and the virus has evolved. Viruses do that.
If you honestly believe that Almost every country in the word came together to imagine up a fake virus then you are the brainwashed one
I never said every either, who can’t read now?
I think the same as you. I agree with you. You are right.
i think we were injected with saline and a flu shot
I do not believe it’s made up. I’ve lost two relatives to the virus and my brother was severely ill with it. It’s definitely real.
It’s a real disease, the reaction to it has been unwarranted
Oh, 100% it came from a lab. Paid for with your tax dollars. And now your tax dollars are paying for the shots
Its the fucking weekend.. who cares.. Wine.. beer
Here we go again...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/VULk2ik2IZo
Stupid question and thought. Ask the families who have lost their loved ones because of covid.
I would say the virus itself is real.
The panic surrounding it? Overhyped.
This was not the plague we were led to believe it'd be.
This is definitely true. Although of course there are also economic and political interests that celebrate this issue and take advantage of it.
Lmao u saying all the world making this shit up? Even Putin Xi and Kim Jong Un? That’s hard to believe the leaders who “don’t fear” making this up
I'm 100% sure it came from a lab, and not some stupid meat market.
Not made up.
Obviously!!
To get everyone chipped with mark of the beast global North Korea system.
Not made up, maybe invented. It's a real virus with real symptoms.
Update: There's nothing suspicious about the virus mutating. That is what it was designed to do. It's a biological weapon.
And somehow you know what these elites are doing…have you sought help?
I think it was purposely created.
It's real. Why is this still a question?
Its just a nasty, named flu. Thats all.
Yes, I do.
No it was not
Sure do
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