What has feminism done to help masculine Men with the problems they face in America today?

[Heartache0405]

[bolverk]

Nothing at all, in fact all of the 'Toxic Masculinity' BS was aimed at them deliberately, to cut them off any help they needed.

[MCheetah]

Literally nothing. Feminism (and wokeism in general) is pure cancer, but you all know that.

[daejahdabree]

Contemporary feminism is compromised. Wokeism is compromised by the far left controlled opposition, but being aware and enlightened to modern world or old world problems is a good thing.

[Anonymous]

The female responses here are just more proof that feminism has nothing to do with equality.

This is how the conversation always goes with a feminist:

Feminist: "Feminism is about equality, nothing more and nothing less"

Sane person: "So why doesn't feminism do anything to help men"

Feminist: "Because feminism is only about women, not men, you idiot"

Sane person: "Huh?"

[Opinion Owner]

@Gwenhwyfar
@kyleelyn199723

[kyleelyn199723]

@Opinion owner: you men had it all already. You had basic human rights. Women did not have that. Sorry you can be mad if you would like.

[kyleelyn199723]

Why did both men that pointed this out use anon for their answers? You are just stirring the pot. Bye now

[Opinion Owner]

@kyleelyn199723 Women have had all those things too, for a long time now, yet feminists still claim they are fighting for equality.

But the problem with feminists is that they claim to be THE equality movement that cares about and fights for equal rights for everyone. They claim movements like egalitarianism are not needed because of feminism. But out of the other side of their mouths they say feminism is for women, not men. Do you not see the problem with that?

Feminism is a dishonest, gynocentric movement that is dying because it is worse than irrelevant. It is dishonest, divisive and toxic.

[kyleelyn199723]

@opnion owner why do they still fight? Because it almost seems like people like YOU would take away womens rights again in todays world if you could

[Heartache0405]

So getting rid of the rights men have/had is a better alternative for women? And they expect men to be happy about losing their rights so that women can have more? They expect men to continue loving them and doing things for them when everything caters to them? No wonder men are not seeking relationships with your gender anymore.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 it’s interesting to me that you jumped right to this comment when you couldn’t answer for me “what rights do you not have that everyone else has in todays world”

[Heartache0405]

And further proof of men not seeking relationships with your gender anymore, women have resorted to objectifying themselves. Example, tiktok, and onlyfans. "If I sexualized myself, men will come running and I'll have the pick of the litter. So your argument is invalid." 😂 except for the fact that women are now doing the very thing they didn't want men to do to them. Just to get them to start chasing them again.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 you are just rambling with non sense. You still haven’t answered for me what kind of rights do you not that on todays world that everyone else has

[kyleelyn199723]

Rights do you not have*

[Heartache0405]

Well, for one, @Kyleelyn199723, men have no reproductive rights. They get a say in the whole abortion debate but either way it's always the woman's decision and she can decide to go against his wants and needs and do whatever the fuck she wants. That doesn't sound fair to me when the baby they both conceived when choosing to fuck each other without protection shares BOTH the DNA of the man and the woman yet she claims it's all hers. How selfish can a women be? Oh, right, clearly incredibly selfish. And I don't doubt that you think that's more than fine

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 why would men ever have reproduction rights when the baby will never be growing inside his body? Why do you think this is ethical? So a man that has raped me or forced his cum into me can further get away with what he did?

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 what’s more than ridiculous is that is the ONLY thing that you could pull out of your ass.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 secondly when did men EVER have reproductive rights? Because this sure wasn’t a thing before feminism

[Heartache0405]

Majority of men don't rape and or force heir semen into a woman. We're not Vikings. 😂 yes, it happens but not at the scale you claim. If it did, you probably wouldn't be on the internet right now complaining about something that doesn't happen majority of the time by majority of men.

Also, you think that's the only thing? Ha, haha, ha, you want more? Here's more: Women serve less jail time for the same crimes.
2. Women pay less for car insurance.
3. Women win law suit cases far more than men for the same suits.
4. Women are given a choice in abortion men are not.
5. Men have no reproductive rights.
6. Women will more likely win custody of children, or for that matter, basically any court decision.
7. Female prisons are vastly better quality and safer.
8. There are less women in prison.
9. Women can't be forcefully drafted into military service.
10. Women can't be forcefully sent into combat zones.
11. Men have to pass higher physical standards than women to enter any physically demanding job including the military, police, firemen, etc.
12. The vast majority of workplace deaths are men.
13. The vast majority of suicides are men by 4 times the amount than women.
14. Women report a high degree of happiness on average than men.
15. Men work more hours on average than women.
16. Women make up the majority of the workforce.
17. More women than men are college attendants.
18. Most college facilities funded by tuition benefit women more than men.
19. Even when accounting for the enrollment difference, colleges have to keep at the very least a 60/40 ratio on genders so many men are accepted late as to compensate for having too many women.

[Heartache0405]

20. Despite there being more women in college there are vastly more female only scholarships that provide vastly more money.
21. More men choose to major in the math and sciences despite colleges trying to push more women into these fields and less men.
22. The wage gap does not exist when accounting for working hours and different jobs, despite men earning more on average than women.
23. Women spend more money than men, when not including the top 1% of wealth.
24. Men below the age of 30 earn less than women below 30.
25. Men make up the majority of the homeless and unemployed and yet women make up the majority of welfare recipients.
26. Teachers favor teaching girls over boys, causing boys to have lower general grades and happiness in school. Despite this boys on average score above girls in standardized tests like the SAT in the sections of math and science (see "The War On Boys").
27. Women are never expected to make the first move in either sex or starting a relationship or in advancing one.
28. Women are never expected to pay for anything in a relationship as dates, driving, rings, gifts, and etc. are paid by the man.
29. Women cheat more than men and yet men are depicted in media as the ones who cheat more.
30. Men are the victims of domestic abuse more than women and yet they are depicted by media as the abusers more often.

[Heartache0405]

31. Women get special treatment socially, culturally, and legally for violence against them.
32. Men are expected to be the bread winner.
33. Women are often not expected to contribute or sacrifice anything to a relationship other than sex.
34. Women have a large number of help centers while men have none.
35. Female only gyms are abundant while male only are almost non existent and can be sued for discrimination.
36. Men are most often viewed as the bad guys in nearly all media.
37. Women are often depicted as empowered even to unrealistic degrees in media.
38. Women are rewarded and remembered for even minor contributions while men must make major ones for the same recognition.
39. Women have a much higher life expectancy.
40. Men pay more towards social security yet receive less of it than women.
41. Women are the majority of voters yet feminists still complain about the ratio of male politicians to female ones.
42. Fathers day is celebrated less and has less money spent on it than Mothers day.
43. Despite breast cancer and prostate cancer roughly killing the same number of people per year, breast cancer research receives around 90% more funding at an almost 2 to 1 ratio.

[kyleelyn199723]

Where did you copy and paste that list from? LMAO you literally spend your life on anti feminist pages

[Heartache0405]

44. Men die more often from stress related illnesses.
45. Men can be forced to pay women money that they may or may not be used on a child that may or may not be theirs.
46. Women initiate the majority of divorces and receive the majority of their ex's money.
47. Often even after signing a pre-nup, a man must still pay this ex half his finances.
48. Roughly 10-30% of “fathers” are raising children who they are not aware aren't their own.
49. Men are the majority of rape victims (when using prison statistics), but men can't be LEGALLY raped by a woman without them using a penetration device.
50. Men are not given the right of consent.
51. Men are often "guilty until proven innocent" in cases of rape accusation.
52. Accused men are SOCIALLY considered rapists on the accusation of rape alone, even if they are later proven innocent.
53. Men have their identities exposed in cases of rape accusation while accusers do not.

[kyleelyn199723]

What a loser

[Heartache0405]

54. Women face NO punishment for falsely accusing a man of rape.
55. Rape is used as an unofficial punishment against men in jail.
56. Women aren't arrested and jailed for selling sex to men but men are arrested and jailed for buying sex from women.
57. Male models and sex workers actually get paid less than females for the same work.
58. Male genital mutilation (circumcision) is common and treated as a joke while female genital mutilation is rare and seen as a serious matter.
59. Men are exposed to thousands of chemicals everyday that have drastically detrimental effects on their reproductive and physical health while women experience only a fraction of these effects.
60. Women have thousands of government-funded organizations defending them from sexism and men have none.

[kyleelyn199723]

Wow I’m so happy I don’t have a boyfriend that focuses his life around this topic. Makes me more happier by the day that my man actually has a life LOL. I have never met more losers than I have met on GAG

[kyleelyn199723]

My argument here is done. You really fished on a website because YOU couldn’t answer the question on your own, but yet are here pitching arguments and stirring the pot. My case is closed. Goodbye

[Heartache0405]

You think that bothers me, but it doesn't 😂 I feel bad for the dude you claim you're with. He probably doesn't want to leave because he doesn't want to be alone. That's the only way you feminist types keep a man. I'm glad I'm single in this day and age and I know many other men will agree with me.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 no need to feel bad for him. He’s hot af and could be single all he wants. I already know that he doesn’t need me lol and you are single because you radiate “I get no pussy and my life is sad” energy

[Heartache0405]

That list is actually from another user on gag. I'm sure you've bumped into him before.

Anyway, it was nice winning an argument against you. 😁

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 so you stole content because YOU couldn’t answer this on your own.

[kyleelyn199723]

You didn’t win anything, you use other peoples work to try to “school” people. You are a loser.

[kyleelyn199723]

You posted this question to downright just copy and paste that all when it was convenient for you. Lame.

[Heartache0405]

I'd rather be a loser than a prissy bitch who enjoys oppressing men then blaming them for her own problems she herself causes

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 this just goes to show how often you spend your time on this topic because 1. You are a no life 2. You get no women.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 again you failed to answer on your own what rights to men not have today that women do have

[Heartache0405]

@MCheeta

[kyleelyn199723]

Awww now you have to tag your little friend in the convo so he can approve of your work 🙄 omg this can’t get more lame

[Opinion Owner]

@kyleelyn199723 "Wow I’m so happy I don’t have a boyfriend that focuses his life around this topic."

Oh, you mean like feminists do?

Sure

[Anonymous]

Typical feminist responses here... feminism is about "equality", but only for women. LMAO

[kyleelyn199723]

Well it was only for women. Men had it all already. You had all human right essentials

[Heartache0405]

Key word "had"

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 explain to me what you can’t do in todays world that everyone else can?

[Heartache0405]

You've already seen my friend's list and you've already attack and degraded me for it. Like you Misandristic feminist lefty types do.

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 lol “I had a heart attack” dude your list is copy and pasted because you spend so much time on the topic and only used that list for when it’s convenient for you. You can’t even have a clear cut convo about this topic on your own

[kyleelyn199723]

It’s amazing that losers on GAG think they won just because they show how much of a no life they actually are

[Heartache0405]

Aren't you contradicting yourself? By saying that men have it all yet you're calling me, a man, a loser? 😂 if I'm a loser, how could I have it all as a man? You're showing how toxic women can be all on your own. I don't even have to say anything. You're proving all my points for me

[kyleelyn199723]

Where did I say “all men are losers” LOL imagine marrying a guy that spends his life on an anon page gearing up an argument that he copied and pasted from someone else because he can’t converse on his own? What a miserable soul. No wonder you are a woman hater. You get none lol

[Heartache0405]

"You get none"

Why the fuck would I want one? 😂

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 why wouldn’t you? Because you are miserable. Talking about me calling you a loser as a no rights thing when you pit all women as the same. It’s the simple fact that you don’t have a choice. You get none.

[Heartache0405]

What you're getting wrong is that I'm not currently miserable. You're trying to make me out to be miserable when in reality I'd be miserable if I had a women in my life. Knowing this is exactly why I don't. That doesn't make me a loser at all. Why would I care if I didn't have a choice regarding having a women in my life or not when I clearly don't want nor do I need one 😂 you're the one making it seem like I'm this pathetic human for choosing to stay single. 😂

[kyleelyn199723]

Dude you spend hours on out about this topic. You are a miserable woman hater because you can’t get laid.

[kyleelyn199723]

The thing is, you aren’t choosing you have no choice. What woman would want to be around a man like you?

[Heartache0405]

What you don't know about me is that I find sex appalling. I wouldn't have sex with my ex when we were together so she decided to cheat on me so that she could have sex and I left her because of it. I hope to never get "laid" because if I did and if I got some woman prognant I wouldn't have any rights to decide whether my child should be born or not. Why would I want to get laid if I didn't find sex to be disgusting waste of time

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 you ex cheated on you because you are miserable on top of giving her no sex. Again, why would a woman want to be with someone like that forever? Why would a man want to be with a woman that had your exact personality?

[Heartache0405]

"What woman would want to be around a man like you?"

Exactly 😁 now you're using that mushy brain of yours

[kyleelyn199723]

Your ex*

[kyleelyn199723]

So you are a woman hater that hates sex. No wonder your ex cheated

[Heartache0405]

I know right? Why would someone want to be with someone that had my exact personality? I don't think they should. 😁

[kyleelyn199723]

Again, no wonder why you are a miserable no life

[Heartache0405]

Good thing too, because I dodged quite the bullet there

[Heartache0405]

I enjoy being a miserable no life. Keeps the bitches away 😁

[kyleelyn199723]

She dodged one too lol imagine having a man that spends his time this way on top of giving you no sex

[Heartache0405]

Wouldn't know 😂 that's the point

[kyleelyn199723]

That’s the point? You are 25. Have fun with that

[Heartache0405]

And I hope to stay a single virgin until the day I die 😁 so I will have fun with that and I currently am.

[kyleelyn199723]

You are 25 dude you still have 2 times your age for that kind of mindset. That’s your life but again no wonder your ex cheated on you. She dodged a bullet.

[Heartache0405]

Still have no idea what being 25 has anything to do with my goal to stay single and a virgin forever 🤷🏻‍♂️

And yeah, we both dodged a bullet and we're both better off for it. I mean, she got what she wanted. A kid with a drunk 😂 and I still have my freedom and independence

[kyleelyn199723]

@heartache0405 not all women that dodge horrible men end up with horrible men in the end. I dodged a billet with a horrible man and I traded that for a wonderful man that has lots to offer

[kyleelyn199723]

And your age? Most men at your age are immature and are clueless. That’s why I don’t go for men your typical age or my typical age

[Heartache0405]

Good for them, and good for you too. And I'm glad you don't go for men that age. They've all dodged quite the toxic bullet 😁

[Opinion Owner]

@kyleelyn199723 Yikes. I'm not going to take the time to read through all that nonsense.

The fact is that feminism went off the rails many years ago. It sought equality in the past, when women were disadvantaged, but that has not been the case for a very long time. But today's feminism is still based on that false assumption.

Today's feminism still claims to be about equality, but ONLY in the interest of females. It completely ignores half of humanity, and in fact is against the interests of the other half, and that is NOT equality. By definition, equality must consider both sides of an equation, and feminism certainly does not do that.

Feminism today is gynocentric, divisive, toxic and sexist. Period.

[Anonymous]

Feminism was a movement started to promote the equal treatment and rights of women.


Egalitarianism is the movement to support the equal rights of both sexes, male and female.


Since the kids below want to whine, the movement for men is called menimism

[OpenClose]

Lol "meninism" is not a thing. There ARE MRA movements, both pro-feminist and anti-feminist.

But then feminists will say "that shouldn't exist because feminism is equal rights for everyone" then when a men's issue is brought up "go get your own movement. We're only about women"

So like, it's the main gender movement that has traction so yes everything is going to piggyback on it. If they don't like it, they need to not claim they are about "everyone" and let other movements coexist.

[Opinion Owner]

Can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny or just that idiotic

[Lionman95]

Nothing and the movement won't do anything for them because feminism is a female movement from a female point of view for females.

[slatyb]

Feminism is a name for a movement to gain broad legal equality for women. What does that have to do with the problems of “masculine” men? Those problems seem to largely be economic problems.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Not much but it wasn’t intended to. It was intended to give women political economic and social equality.

[Juxtapose]

They are not egalitarians, they are female supremacists

[kyleelyn199723]

Invalid question when feminism wasn’t meant to help men, it was a movement to help women

[OpenClose]

I mean I generally hear "Men's movements should not exist because feminism already helps men."
Followed by "Don't expect feminism to help men. It exists for women. STFU and get your own movement."

I feel like people need to choose one and stick with it.

[kyleelyn199723]

@OpenClose my personal opinion was feminism was a movement originally made so women can vote, women can get jobs, and women can have a say in our world. I don’t necessarily agree with their today ideas BUT it was originally made to create equality basic human rights wise

[OpenClose]

I see what you're saying. And yeah I agree. I just think they need to solidify their scope. Either be "feminism is for everyone" and include men's issues rather than dismiss them, or be a women-specific group and let the men's discussion happen without jumping in with "that's why men need feminism".

[Pohjolan]

1. Nothing.
2. Its not supposed to.

You might as well complain that oil companies are not helping improving solar energy.

[_no_one_]

It helped me with my testicle cancer

[Heartache0405]

😂😂😂

[ninaneedshelp]

Nothing.