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How many children in Ukraine must die before the world stops Russia?

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  • Soteris
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    While the world could stop Russia easily, that comes at a price. In this case nuclear war between NATO and Russia. If you compare nuclear war between Russia and NATO then even erasing Ukraine from the map would be a lesser cost since a Nuclear war would threaten all human life on earth.

    When you are trying to do something about Russia that will always be a question. As such a direct conflict between NATO and Russia is very unlikely unless both sides makes major mistakes and accidentally starts it.

    It also limits how harsh you can be on Russia. We could technically speaking probably break Russia completely through sanctions alone. Problem with that is that they still have a massive stockpile of nukes and if Putin loses control over them because his government crumbles, who gets to have their hand on the button? Its not even certain that only one person would have access to nukes if Russia crumbles, their stockpile could be split between countless different groups and individuals who would have the ability to launch them if they so choose.

    As such, breaking Russia like we did the Soviet Union (or worse) is VERY risky. Even if no one launches it in the chaos that follows, what is to say that someone who has access to them dont for example sell one to a terrorist organization?

    For all these reasons and many more the preferred solution is to apply enough pressure that Putin is forced to step down or be replaced but that the government itself is as stable as possible so they can put in another leader who is trustworthy enough not to press the button for no reason. Any person they would replace him with would be the usual type of corrupt selfish dictator but that would mean that they would get out of Ukraine because it loses them money and that they would just continue to siphon off tax money for themselves and their friends.

    Improving the country and making it more democratic can be done later and without the risk of nuclear annihilation. Right now we are just trying to walk the fine line between forcing Russia to stop the war while still making sure they survive the damage.

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  • RolandCuthbert
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    The world has sat by and watched a lot of genocides. But I would say this, I don't see how this conflict stays contained. We are just one mistake away from WWIII.

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  • befuddle
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    All it takes is for Ukraine to surrender. That's all. They have already lost.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/_Iw0m-Pc08Q
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  • jshm2
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    As many as the US and occupying state of Israel killed in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, I suppose.

    So still a couple more million to kill yet.

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  • NamerOfStars
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    Not as many as have to die invading Russia before THAT war gets called off.

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  • ragooo8
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    How many children must die in the middle east and Africa b4 the world stops America.
    Biden will fight to thd last Ukrainian woman and child

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  • anylolone
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    Those two questions aren't related.

    No amount of children got ukr and rus to stop fighting.
    No amount of children will get the rest of the world any more involved in each side.

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  • TallAnon
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    How many children in Ukraine make up for WW3 and atomic warfare? Of course it sucks, but things can get much worse. Not many countries are willing to risk their own children.

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  • andreasderjuengere
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    So you say that if only adults die there, it's ok to you?

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  • DARKCLOUD1945X
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    Millions according to our past history over the last 80 years. Lennin , Hitler Stalin Mao and every two bit leader it is going to be in the millions

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  • Jamie05rhs
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    All of them will die. The world will never stop Russia. The world doesn't want to stop Russia. The world doesn't care.

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  • OddBeMe
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    Not sure. How many Iraqi children died from our flying robots?

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    • michael1469
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      Not as many...

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    • OddBeMe
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      How many dead children make a war crime?

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    • michael1469
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      How many were intentional vs russian in discriminate bomb with old school dumb bombs.

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    • OddBeMe
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      Ehh, not sure. But ignorance isn’t a defense in court. If the Unabomber mailed the wrong guy and killed a kid, he’d still be convicted of child murder.

      But yes we’re in total agreement, that Russia is probably targeting hospitals and children to terrorize US only fcked up our drone strikes :)

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  • EnglishEuropean
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    Just because there are kids dying doesn't mean we should rush to add more bodies to the pile. Pressure is already being applied to Russia.

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  • anton_dee
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    I guess the same question was not asked at the time of Syria, Libya, Middle East, Afghanistan, Palestine...

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  • standardguy
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    The two warring parties should negotiate and quickly come to a fair solution for both. No children should die.

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  • ManHater
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    How many women and children are raped before it is a crime? HMMM? Honestly the world has a double stansard.

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  • Anonymous
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    Since the US is the cause of this wouldn't it make more sense to stop them?

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    • Anonymous
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      Also you can fuck off with your bullshit about poor little children.

      If you have to make pathetic appeals to emotion its either because you dont have an argument or because you're a cunt.

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  • Jay3344
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    Same could be said about any country bonding anyone in the last 10 years.

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  • ihatemylife123
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    nobody wants to get nuked by russia. russia has pretty powerful military

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  • Themostabsurd
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    Stopping Russia = More dead kids, some of which will be our own.

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  • UsernameXLTX
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    Do you want a WW3 ? Cause that will happen if the world stepped in.

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  • jahaims
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    More will die if nuclear super powers get involved

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  • Kurdistan1991
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    I ask same question about middle eastern

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  • jimmy2
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    Its all about NATO and 3rd ww3

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  • CloudMassacre
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    Way too many.

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