Genocide in Ukraine , with mass graves found with 1,000's of dead people that were executed by Russia, now what?

[888theGreat]

How can world do nothing when they went after Hitler and others for same thing?

Have war criminal trials of Putin and generals

Nothing

Put bounty on Putin life of $50 million dead or alive

Nuke Russia or bomb it into stone age

[Daniela1982]

You realize that very few Nazi war criminals were executed after the war. The others were thrown in prison but were all released by the 50's. Our government didn't care whether all the murdered Jews and others got justice, so don't expect them to care now. Hell, they don't even care about our own disabled or homeless Vets. The Vets only seem to have Disable American Veterans , Wounded Warrior, and other charities to help them out. They delay and stall giving benefits to Veterans in the hopes that they will die first. Meanwhile our politicians live in luxury with fat Double Dip pensions and they all retire as millionaires. And for some reason we call America "Great". What a joke!

[suckmynuts369]

Yet you are lefty tard. When do you GET it?

[Daniela1982]

@suckmynuts369 Oh go suck your own nuts as I have a feeling you are double jointed.

[suckmynuts369]

The irony/hypocrisy, that is the hang up. You didn't deny being a lefty, so all you do is scramble everyone's brains like an omelet, one cannot ever discern the level of mental disorder that is going on here.

[888theGreat]

I doubt if he even has any

[Anonymous]

I reserve judgement until the war is over and this properly investigated. Could very easily be a false flag operation to drum up international outrage and support from the American public, us government's have done such things in the past.
It's possible war crimes have been committed by both sides. Recently read a piece claiming Ukrainians giving Russian soldiers food as a gesture of good will that turn out to be posion.

Who stands to benefit the most from this war? Ukraine? Russia? The EU? China? Or as is my opinion the puppet master United States?

[goaded]

There were satellite pictures of the grave being dug back on the 10th March. The city has been in Russian hands the whole time.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded who's satellite pictures? The CIA's? The same pictures that were used to prove WMDs in Iraq? I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, I'm just saying the truth will come out after its all over.

[goaded]

That's not an excuse to ignore the truth now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60981238

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded again the BBC pushed the story of WMDs in Iraq and satellite imagery was involved. The BBC has long been used as a political propaganda tool since WW2 and has told some whoppers.
1. Live audio money buying weapons in eithopia
2. Dog stoning in Israel
3. Fake child labour footage from Bangalore
4. BBC news exaggerates the occurrence of false rape allegations and flies in the face of the CPS’ report.
5. BBC reports fake news story on the protest against the bombing of Syria gone violent.
6. False accusations of Israel targeting Palestinian journalists
7. Taliban hanging Afghans from helicopters
https://youtu.be/bq7kbiRrbek
https://youtu.be/tinlaLkZgy0
www.google.com/.../amp

[goaded]

What? 8 things in over a century? And some of them are reporting what they've been told, not things they've made up. (Assuming any of those things are even true.)

[goaded]

Is there free media in Azerbaijan? And your second video is a call to privatise the BBC, which would eliminate any unbiased reporting about large corporations. (Also, simple bias is not lies or fake news.)

[goaded]

#3: “While it’s important to recognise that the programme ***did find evidence*** elsewhere that Primark was contravening its own ethical guidelines, there were still serious failings in the making of the programme." (BBC's apology.)

[goaded]

#2 "Reports that a Jewish rabbinical court in Israel condemned a stray dog to death by stoning have been strongly denied.

The source of the report, Israel's Maariv newspaper..."

[goaded]

#5 Another minor mistake in one out of three reports they made on the protest.

I expect they're all as insignificant as that. Where did you get the list?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded there's a whole list of things. It's a state run broadcasting service just like Russia today. They report what suits the intrest of the state.
www.irishtimes.com/.../...was-not-factual-1.308282

[goaded]

"described what he had believed at the time, but was wrong"

Real propagandists don't admit error, and do you even know when Bloody Sunday was? 1972.

The BBC is nothing like RT and, besides, that's just one of the sources for the stories of Russian mass killings, albeit one of several with reporters on the ground.

[goaded]

If you don't like the BBC, try Fox News.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6302898810001

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded the state media openly lied about the events of bloody Sunday for decades. He admits error decades after the fact to cover that he knowingly lied or was incompetent in his reporting.
Again you quote fox news (which reports the corporate intrests of its owners) another biased Western source but even they say it alledged. Try maybe aljazeera, they honestly say they are unable to independently verify it.
www.aljazeera.com/.../will-the-bucha-massacre-wake-up-the-world
I haven't said it hasn't happened just like the Ukrainians say, I haven't said its staged or whatever but what I am saying is I will wait for the facts as war is a very dirty buissness especially when others are benefiting from the war and have vested intrests.

[goaded]

If Al Jaseera say that, it's because they do not have reporters on the ground. Unlike the BBC, AP, Agence France-Presse, etc. who do.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded again the BBC went along with the WMDs in Iraq. I'm not on Russia's side but the US government is not above false flag operations and lying to suit their interests. I reserve judgement until the truth has been established.

[goaded]

They didn't, though. The government of the time demanded an apology for the BBC reporting that the 45 minute claim was baseless, for example. (I was around to see it.)

"The BBC has rejected Alastair Campbell's demands that it apologise to the government for its coverage of the Iraq conflict and has accused Mr Campbell of "seriously misrepresenting" its journalists.

Richard Sambrook, the BBC's head of news, said the corporation had nothing to apologise for. He insisted that reports that intelligence officials had been unhappy with the government's claim that Iraq could launch WMD attacks within 45 minutes were based on briefings by "a senior, credible and reliable source"."
www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/jun/26/iraq.iraq

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded point is they always go with the state. They are a state news service, always were right from the beginning. They promote the foreign interests and policies of the British state. You've just quoted the head of the BBC news stated that there was no need to apologise for spreading fake news about WMDs that lead to an ilegal invasion of Iraq that killed millions and cost the British taxpayer billions because it came from the British government despite the Unitrd Nations WMD inspectors stating very clearly at the time that Iraq had no WMDs.

[goaded]

Read it again. It's the head of news telling the government that they're not going to apologise for contradicting them.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded read it again he says he's not going to apologise for being a propagandist for the British government

[goaded]

Completely the opposite.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded they reported British government propaganda to drum up support for the Iraq war. Their reports on the fall of baghdad were scandalous, thousands of Iraqis did not take to the streets to celebrate the toppling of Sadam

[goaded]

Nope.
Paul Wood, Friday, 9 April, 2004:
" It is true that the crowd was just a few hundred strong. Some see this as an early sign of Iraqi ambivalence towards the Americans.

But mainly, I think, people were still scared. Most Iraqis didn't learn until the following day that the war had ended. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3611869.stm

Of course, you're just bashing the BBC to avoid talking about the fact that there are hundreds of Ukrainian bodies in Bucha and housing has been destroyed, apparently by Russian soldiers who have been told lies about who they're fighting.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded your quoting 2004 not 2003 when baghdad fell when the BBC were telling us thousands had taken to the streets.

"A study by Cardiff University, commissioned by the BBC, found that the proportion of government sources used by the BBC was twice that of ITN and Channel 4 News and that it was also less likely to use independent sources such as the Red Cross. This is not very surprising when we consider that the BBC leadership actively sought to amplify Government propaganda and to marginalise dissent. In his memoirs Greg Dyke recalls that he ‘made strenuous efforts to ensure that the Government position was fairly reported.’ He writes that he ‘set up and chaired an ad hoc group that met every morning to discuss our coverage of the Iraq issue.’ This group banned BBC employees from attending anti-war marches and sought to ‘balance’ the popular anti-war feeling which was dominating phone-ins and live television audiences. In one leaked email the BBC’s Director of News Richard Sambrook warned programme makers that they were ‘attracting some of the more extreme anti-war views’ and reminded them that it was ‘important we have someone to articulate the Bush/Blair line’. ...

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded... Once the war was underway only 2% of BBC reports dealt with the purpose or outcome of the invasion (according to one study). The fact that the BBC did belatedly challenge the Government’s case for war at least partly reflects the fact that it was being briefed against the Government by powerful members of the Establishment. These voices were, in the words of the then editor of the Today programme Kevin Marsh, ‘difficult to ignore’. Marsh recalls that, ‘the noise from the intelligence community over their dissatisfaction about the way in which the case for war had been framed was deafening.’ Along with Today presenter John Humphrys, he had lunch with the then head of MI6 Richard Dearlove on the day Baghdad fell and was told that they did not expect to find any weapons of mass destruction. It was this context which emboldened the BBC to tentatively challenge Blair’s lies – only to later apologise for its impertinence."

[goaded]

"2003... telling us"? Aren't you meant to be under 24?

You're just bashing the BBC, which I'll accept isn't perfect, to ignore the facts on the ground in Ukraine that have been reported by multiple news organisations, including the ones that the study said did better than the BBC. It's called the Ad Hominem fallacy.

Here's the article you quoted from, dated 2012.
www.opendemocracy.net/.../

And this is an article about the study the BBC commissioned that it refers to.
www.theguardian.com/news/2003/jul/04/comment

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded again I haven't disagreed or called the story we are talking about in Ukraine fake news or sided with the Russians I merely stated that I reserve judgement at least until the United nations investigates the alleged war crimes as I don't trust media outlets such as the BBC. And I think its correct to do so as the whole situation is a dirty affair in my view.

[goaded]

You're certainly implying it. But whatever.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded I'm not.

[suckmynuts369]

@goaded Oh my lord? BBC Big Black C_ck out of britain tells you something? Left bent assholes.

[Daniela1982]

@goaded Your link didn't do shit.

[goaded]

@Daniela1982 The Fox News one?

[JamesDiaz11]

This isn't genocide, as defined by the 1949 UN Convention on Genocide. There is no systematic pursuit of killing off the Ukrainian ethnic group, or to prevent them from reproducing. I'm not justifying anything, but thousand of Ukrainians (military and civilian alike) were killed in these areas, and for lack of their family's burying them, the Russian forces likely instituted a policy of burying the bodies strewn throughout the area in mass graves.
This isn't the same thing as Hitler, nor would it justify nuclear war, which would inflict 1,000 times the death toll on the entire world.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The Ukrainian government forces citizens to fight against their will. The citizens shoot at (invading) Russian troops and throw molotovs.

Then, the Russians shoot them.

So Ukraine and the west say "RUSSIA IS MURDERING CIVILIANS"

Bullshit. The Ukrainian government is enslaving their people and forcing them to fight a war they don't want to without proper equipment. The Ukrainian government is using civilians as human shields for artillery and closing maternity wards to turn them into "untargetable" military bases.

Have the trial.
Broadcast it to the world.
Let people see the truth.

But they won't. They will just spout propaganda on our screens and CONVINCE people putin is committing genocide to cover the blood on their own hands.

Joe Biden is to blame for those deaths. Zelensky is to blame for those deaths. Putin invaded to protect Russia and the rest of the world from dangerous biological weapons being developed on us dollars. He has no interest in and and no intention of killing citizens. The corrupt Ukrainian state is throwing those people in front of tanks then taking photos of them to create propaganda to defend and distract from their own wrongdoing.

Have the trial. Remember that second impeachment? We all knew it wouldn't stick because we saw the video before they took it down. All Trump had to do was press play.

[JamesDiaz11]

Yea, you’re full of ish. Russia invaded to get more land, not for the bs you claim. Ofc Ukrainian civilians are taking up arms, Russia is invading their home- id expect the sake of civilians here.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You think it's about land?

The land in ukraine sucks. Russia has more land than any other country in the world and most is uninhabited.

That's just silly.

[JamesDiaz11]

Most is tundra, without oil reserves…. Silly?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Apparently you aren't up to date on their new LPG facilities.

Russia has huge oil reserves. They don't want Ukraine for the land. They want to keep Nato and the Biden family out.

If it was about the land, they would have owned it decades ago.

Russia understands the mutual benefit of a neutral buffer. Biden is a fucking idiot and that's why thousands of people are dead in the streets.

[EssenceOfLight]

Serbian war criminals thought once they are untouchable until their new government sold them out and they landed in the Hague

[whirled_up_girl]

I don’t understand it either how NATO and the U. S. can ignore these atrocities. I keep hearing news outlets talk about Putin breaking international laws and committing war crimes. Well what good are those laws if there are no consequences or anyway to stop or prevent the war crimes from happening.

[888theGreat]

it is only crimes if you get caught and captured or lose. That is how it is handled. He shot a rocket into train station with "for your children" which means they were trying to kill kids. That alone should be a trial

[grega239]

Nato is useless. Always has been.
And america can't say shit because they'd be hypocrites. And it benefits them to only pay lip service.

[DarkWinterNights]

What is there that can be done? Does America and Europe have the stomach to sacrifice potentially everything to stop Putin, and possibly China as well? America hasn’t been a war like this is setting up to be since WWII. The casualties would be catastrophic and America is in very poor shape, economically, socially, physically and mentally.

[Heiniken]

Nothing will happen. The West doesn't want world war.

100,000 Ukrainian civilians may die but there lives will be lost for nothing but being born in the wrong place and being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Anonymous]

The most important thing to understand is that all wars are fought for money, resources, land and power - never for humanitarian reasons.

The only reason they claim to want to go in for humanitarian reasons is to enrage people so that they support the war, and so that enough people will want to fight.

This happens elsewhere in the world, and it's happening right now. You haven't heard about it because the government hasn't told you to care, because they're not interested.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately there isn't a lot we can do, unless we are prepared for orders of magnitude more tragic death and destruction of WW3 Russia alone will decide the fate of Putin.

In the short term it is best to make leaving as easy and desirable as possible for Putin, or there will only be more of this.

[Wade12345]

and still the Biden administration does nothing.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is if 'good men' do nothing."

[KrakenAttackin]

The Biden administration is "evil" and they are a party to the Putin carnage.

[lightbulb27]

so many doubting people.
GAG people need to take a trip to Ukraine and examine for themselves. That was very useful in WWII concentration camp education. It's important... Bring your thickest jacket.

[alice55]

I feel like Putin is gonna commit suicide like Hitler, he seem more and more backed into a corner. (and if he's losing the war and not gain anything I doubt Russian are going to love him very much).

[Kiss_Me]

Putin will have to be arrested by his own people or a conquering country. Only then can he be put on trial. Any of your other suggestions will start WWIII.

[Anonymous]

so should the world just assume it was Russia and go kill them all? This shit needs to actually be investigated. Pretty damn strange how there were claims of Russia walking through the streets just wiping everybody out but zero people managed to capture any pictures or video of it. They still have internet. I trust nothing anymore without proof.

[purplepoppy]

Unless Russia hands us Putin on a plate nothing will happen.

[888theGreat]

Ever heard of assassination?

[Kathuria_]

@888thegreat Sit quietly where on your ass where you are... You American and British? Even Taliban kicked out American soldiers over night ( on 6 Aug-2021 ) from Afghanistan... Russia and china will burn US in 2 days !!!

[888theGreat]

@Kathuria_ what?

[Kathuria_]

don't mess up with Russians

[888theGreat]

@Kathuria_ Russians should stay in Russia

[Kathuria_]

@888thegreat Yes Was not Ukraine a Part of Russia before 1991 ?

[888theGreat]

@Kathuria_ Ukraine was there before Soviet Union or Russia

[Kathuria_]

@888thegreat Russia has Tsar Bomba !!! Google it what is a Tsar Bomb?

[Kathuria_]

@888thegreat

The Tsar Bomba (Russian: Царь-бо́мба), (code name: Ivan[5] or Vanya), also known by the alphanumerical designation "AN602", was a hydrogen aerial bomb, and the most powerful nuclear weapon ever created and tested. Tsar Bomba was developed in the Soviet Union (USSR) by a group of nuclear physicists under the leadership of Igor Kurchatov,[6] an academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union.[7]

Tested on 30 October 1961, the scientific result of the test was the experimental verification of calculation principles and multi-stage thermonuclear charges. The bomb was dropped by parachute from a Tu-95V aircraft, and detonated autonomously 4,000 metres (13,000 ft) above the Sukhoy Nos ("Dry Nose") cape of Severny Island, Novaya Zemlya, 15 km (9.3 mi) from Mityushikha Bay, north of Matochkin Strait.[8][9][10] The detonation was intended to be secret, but was detected by United States intelligence agencies, via a KC-135A aircraft (Operation SpeedLight)[11] in the area at the time. A secret U. S. reconnaissance aircraft named "Speed Light Alpha" monitored the blast, coming close enough to have its antiradiation paint scorched.[4][12]

[KrakenAttackin]

@Kathuria_ Huh?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Kathuria_ No, the Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union, which is distinctly different from "Russia".

[Anonymous]

Well, the world did nothing when Stalin was doing to his people what Hitler did even BEFORE Hitler, and then ramped it up to super-industrial scale AFTER Hitler. Sooooo. . . pretty easy to do nothing as it turns out.

[KrakenAttackin]

Dat be for true.

[Anonymous]

Because we don’t want World War 3 with a nuclear power? Why is this so difficult for you Lefties to understand?

”Well we did this before so why can’t we do it again?”

BECAUSE ITS NOT THE SAME SITUATION GENIUS.

[Fuentes]

Honestly the millions of Ukranians that left who are Men or Women (with no children obligation or disability) should go back and fight for their country and show Russia no Remorse.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s a fake war.
People actually living over there said that nothings going on.

Just like the fake COVID that apparently killed all your closest friends and family.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[KrakenAttackin]

A pretty shitty thing to say.

[whirled_up_girl]

Actually I work with someone from Ukraine and the women in her family were able to come over here as refugees but the men in her family stayed there to fight and have said that’s it’s hell.

[Opinion Owner]

@KrakenAttackin
It’s true. Did every person in your family die from COVID? Mom Dad sister all of them?
Like how the news to you?

[KrakenAttackin]

I agree there is a bunch of shit re: covid.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I voted “nothing” because that’s how the world tends to work. They’ll voice their moral outrage but they’re too incompetent to do anything meaningful

[KrakenAttackin]

This is the most likely outcome. With a "woke" USA, UN, and NATO; I can't see anything happening to Putin... and he knows it.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin That’s why he invaded in the first place

[OddBeMe]

Just wondering how your Putin defending will continue.

[888theGreat]

It was Hillary and Bidens that had all the deals with him , not Trump or me

[OddBeMe]

Right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_jqKtnW2Ec

[888theGreat]

Trump shut him down and that is why he didn't invade Ukraine years ago.

[KrakenAttackin]

Also truth.

[OddBeMe]

By Trump deepthroating Putin?

[KrakenAttackin]

@OddBeMe. Come on bruh, you can't be a fan of the Biden/Harris clown show?

[OddBeMe]

@KrakenAttackin not a fan. But certainly not overlooking trump’s subservience to Putin.

[suckmynuts369]

@OddBeMe @888thegreat Odd be me is not smart. The Weather Channel, PBS, The BBC, CBS, ABC, NBC , The Wall Street Journal , CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, NPR, The Associated Press, Time Magazine, USA Today, Reuters , MSNBC , Newsweek, The Guardian - Just a small smattering of the left tard bent mainstream media, in his mind Fox, News Max, OAN totally usurp, which is so retarded, it's beyond being comprehensible, the guy literally rides the short bus. Throw in hollywood and everything else, and he pretends to be some sort of "fence sitter" while all his views are totally not based on LEFT bent liberal media. Apparently, all these "lefty sources" are legitimate to him. These lefty sources are indeed "the truth" in his mind. It's a mental disorder.

[suckmynuts369]

Throw in Big Tech too, may as well throw in Big Pharma, and what you have is someone who is worthy of The Biggest Douche in the Universe award. Aliens will come down and bestow this award upon him. But he says "Damn, it, I'm not a douche!!!"

[OddBeMe]

He invaded in 2014 genius.

[KrakenAttackin]

2014, under Obama, another weak sister.

[OddBeMe]

@KrakenAttackin and 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Next?

[grega239]

Id take that with a grain of salt. It may be true or just propaganda.

[KrakenAttackin]

Probably nothing will happen but Putin could be tried in Absentia.

[Sevenpointfive]

do nothing. he only wants ukraine

[goaded]

Like he only wanted Crimea?

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded crimea was already his i thought? he just needed to show up

[goaded]

No it bloody wasn't, it was part of Ukraine.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded it's the truth. sorry man

[humanearth]

Hey, its coming to the world. We are next

[Anonymous]

Okay, Joe Biden. I believe you. /sarcasm