Will ukraine keep speaking genocide?

[ibodi]

As Armenia to turkey and chinese speak nanjing genocide to Japan.

They spoke famine by stalin after all that might be a cause of this time.

How do we view it? Japanese denied it but I see ukraine's war there are propagandas as squid's sepia or that is what war should be? Turkey seem to pay attention about the cause.

However It is still trying that dont blame to individual. Japanese and chinese still can be friend Turkey and armenian seem to be so but politician can incite by it but I saw people in front of me still a good person but that is a tool when you dislike them.

How will it say officially? as definition? like can not attack citizen after ww2 so janapnese escaped from it but now if all of ukrainians are soliders? but I think this definition is not helpful from the thought of folks.

[USLegionary]

After ww1 and during the 20s Ukrainians independence was squashed and their people starved, millions died.

Imagine if Russia launched an invasion of Turkey because they didn't want Turkey joining the EU or NATO.

[Guy13]

I can’t make the link, whether historical or not, with famine issue and States mentioned. I always Turkey as one in a perpetual identity cris. West, Eastern Europe or Middle Eastern, who are we? I don’t know if that is accurate either?

[Nintendo-64]

Turkey is neither west nor mid east. We are neither europeans nor arabs. Turks came from central asia and we are culturally, linguistically and ethnically close to countries like azerbaijan, turkmenistan, kazakhistan, krygızistan and uzbekistan.

[Nintendo-64]

Also ıf you meant nato or eu by west. I want you to remind that we are devout eu and nato skeptics. Alliance should be a mutual thing but Nato supports countries like greece against Turkey and weopanizing greece.
Eu has been making monkeys out of us and using us with baseless promises.
We will quit nato and end eu negotiations when we change the goverment.

[Guy13]

@Nintendo-64 But there is still a western military base there? Why? This is what confuses especially with what feels like an Ottoman Empire resurgence. I do not live there, however, here in the USA all the Turks I know hope that Ottoman never happens again. They were more worried with Russia and both the Biblical and Islam interpretation of what may take place there. TWO PART question...

[Nintendo-64]

I dont want ottomans back aswell.
I am a devout republican and secularists.
I won't accept to get ruled by a monarch and his sharia laws.

[Guy13]

@Nintendo-64 And this is the tone of the country as a whole?

[Nintendo-64]

Islamists (Conservatives) tend to be in fond of ottoman empire.
Same goes for Ethnic minorities aswell because they are against of national state.
All kind of left wingers and nationalist right (like me) hates neo ottomanism amd want to preserve current republic.

[Guy13]

@Nintendo-64 Thank you and that's mirrored in what the Turks that I kick the ball around on the pitch convey too. Going to have to pass on the "ruled by Monarch" as I have not heard that before. :-)

[Nintendo-64]

Armenians commited genocides to Turks, not vice versa.

What Turks did was to rightfully deport bloodthirsty armenians out of their lands.

[andreasderjuengere]

Whenever -and where ever- people are slaughtered for political reasons:

something is wrong.

AND: it always takes TWO to make a fight.

[MiseriaCantareAFI]

This is all about putin, and him wanting to take back what he believes is his. HE IS FORMER KGB, and he wants the USSR BACK

[Twalli]

It's not a genocide, it's a war that Russia lost even if they eradicate Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

What?