What do you learn from the war?

[ibodi]

Compare to China for the example
USA is still provocativing China as top gun and want to catch the fastest rockets and insult each other on trade war take taiwan out again and come all their fighting group. There is Buddhism saying there should have not been anything happening why do you get full of dust on your body? heart floating or the world turning around?

[Anonymous]

That the US has bioweapon labs all over the world and is almost certainly responsible for both Covid and the Ebola outbreak in Africa back along.

[lrina]

covid didn't even start in the us...

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina No, but then I then I didn't say that it did.

So there is no problem here other than your inability to understand English.

[lrina]

"... Us has bioweapon labs all over the world and is almost certainly responsible for both Covid..."

There really isn't a problem other than the fact that what you just said makes no sense. And before you attack me for not "being able to understand English" you repeated two words back-to-back. so much for "understanding" English...

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina I have indeed made a typo.

'No, but then I didn't say that it did.'

There is a world of difference however between a typing error and an inability to grasp a concept because you don't know enough about the world to figure it out.

Here is a riddle of sorts for you to mull over:

If McDonald's is an American burger business, why is there one in London?

[lrina]

you said that you never said that us was the one responsible for covid, yet in your original comment you said that it is most likely responsible. so yeah, it can't be both.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina No, I didn't say that.

The problem is inside your mind and that is the only place it can be corrected.

[lrina]

you literally said that the us has bioweapon labs all over the world and is almost certainly responsible for covid. i think it's pretty clear that you believe that there is a high chance that the us is responsible. you did not mention any other countries, so i do not see what else that would mean.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina What I said is literally already in front of your eyes so I'm not sure how repeating myself is supposed to help but I will try anyway.

'The US has bioweapon labs all over the world and is almost certainly responsible for both Covid and the Ebola outbreak in Africa back along.'

'lrina

covid didn't even start in the us...'

No, but then I then I didn't say that it did.

What is so fucking complicated to you about the idea of Covid being developed in a US bioweapon lab outside of the US?

[lrina]

that still wouldn't necessarily make it the us's fault. but whatever, it's not like arguing will change anything/go anywhere, so might as well just stop i guess.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina No, of course it that on its own doesn't mean that the US is responsible but that isn't why i think that.

You have rejected the idea yourself but you think that is good enough for me?

Do you think show even the smallest amount of respect for someone who has been paying attention to what is going on in the world for twice as long as you have been in it?

Do you think you could consider for a moment that I might be at least as smart as you are?

[Opinion Owner]

Do you think you could show*

[Slingblade1126]

How can either one of you comprehend a fucking word the poster wrote. Either I had a stroke or you two are better at reading comprehension than I am.

[Slingblade1126]

And who said that lab is a "bio weapon" lab? Putin? Tucker carlson?

[Opinion Owner]

@Slingblade1126 Well, I was responding to the headline and making an assumption the war being refered to was the Russia / Ukraine conflict.

As for the word soup, if you know anything about current affairs you will be able to get a sense of what is being referred to be the OP.

Presumably these are things that the OP has learned from the war.

[Opinion Owner]

@Slingblade1126 Who said?

The US government.

[Slingblade1126]

No, they didn't.

[Opinion Owner]

@Slingblade1126 Not directly and I would like to link you the video but it is difficult to find.

The source video for the information is included in one of Russel Brands videos on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBrand/videos

There is also this site which claims to be an independant news site:

www.veteranstoday.com/.../

[Opinion Owner]

Oh its here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCr7zkPAm1Y

[Slingblade1126]

There is a huge difference between a biolab and a bio "weapons" lab. I'm not saying it isn't one but you said it is and that the US admitted it. The U. N knew of its existence as a research lab for years and even inspected. Russia inspected it.

[Opinion Owner]

@Slingblade1126 Yes, I said that it was because that is what I believe to be true because that is what is supported by the evidence.

It's not like this is a unique random outlying piece of data which contradicts the normally observed behaviour.

There is mountains of evidence demonstrating that the US has consistently acted against the interests of humanity for a very long time.

This might be news to you and if that is the case then I suggest you pay more attention to what is happening.

[Opinion Owner]

This is an interesting documentary on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niTwvtokYf0

[Slingblade1126]

I accept what you believe and respect it. I just don't believe it to be true at this moment in time. Maybe later I will but as far as now, what evidence there is, isn't going to change my mind.

[Opinion Owner]

@Slingblade1126 Well, you should at least review the supplied video material, if nothing else, it isn't boring.

[lrina]

@guffrus are you really going to pull the old "DoNt DiSrEsPeCt YoUr ElDeRs BeCaUsE tHeYrE sMaRtEr ThAn YoU cRaCkHeAdS!!!" if anything, you were kind of the first one to be passive agressive, and i even later said that it'd be pointless to argue yet you still chose to continue for some reason.

[Slingblade1126]

I will. Thanks.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina You really struggle to understand what is being said to you.

I didn't say you have to take my word as law because I am older than you, I merely asked you to consider for a moment that I might be A at least as smart as you are and therefore if an argument isn't good enough for you then it isn't going to be good enough for me either and that B considering that I have had the opportunity, because I have been here longer than you, to learn about these things that there is AT LEAST A POSSIBILITY that I might be better informed than you.

[lrina]

either way, its already pointless in arguing. i still stand by my opinions, but it's not like that'll get anywhere.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Being ignorant and closed minded will not help you to understand the world.

[lrina]

wow wanting to end a pointless argument is very ignorant and close minded, what a wonderful statement!! gee, thanks for that.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina The reason you are standing by your opinions is because you haven't considered for a single moment that you could possibly be wrong.

That is the definition of being ignorant and closed minded.

[lrina]

so just because i don't agree with one of your opinions automatically makes me stupid? pretty rich coming from you, but ok, whatever you say.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Again, No.

You refusing to consider information which is new to you makes you closed minded.

Look, I think its great that you are interested in this stuff and that you want to post on a site like this but assuming your profile information is right and you are 13 years old you haven't even finished growing yet, your mind hasn't finished developing yet and it is highly likely that you have not yet been able to invest a significant amount of your time learning about any of this stuff yet.

So please, give yourself a fucking chance to actually fucking learn something before you presume to tell me and others like me whats what.

I wouldn't move to a new town and head straight for the taxi rank and start telling the drivers there that they dont know where they are going. What you are doing is really no different from that, but you wouldn't literally do that yourself so please stop.

Look at the fucking supplied material with an open mind, that means you have to be honesty prepared to change your beliefs based on new information and that's not easy at first, you may not even have ever done that before, at least not about anything that mattered.

You know how i know that its difficult? Because when i was twice your age, I lived through it. I know what it is like to have to accept that everything that i thought i knew was complete bullshit, its scary, it can make you feel sick and disorientated for a long time.

[lrina]

in other words i should just accept whatever information others give me? yeah no thanks...

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Why do you have to twist everything I say into what you want it to be?

This is completely dishonest of you.

So no, there are no other words, you will use the words I have chosen and will stop trying to put words into my mouth.

[lrina]

i mean, even after i offered to just end the arguments twice you said no, and just started complaining about me not being open minded enough just because i didn't agree with some of the things you said. at least know that before you keep on criticizing me you have plenty of flaws yourself.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Such as?

What is the argument supporting the claim?

[lrina]

such as what?

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina You are claiming that I have quote 'plenty of flaws'.

So, ok, you think you have something to say; present your claim and your arguments and evidence which support the claim that you are making.

[lrina]

why? it's not like that'll change anything.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Because providing an argument and evidence for a claim is the difference between an honest attempt to understand the world and some shit that you just made up.

One has or potentially has meaning, the other does not.

[lrina]

made up? ah yes i absolutely love making up shit about people's flaws, favorite thing to do! makes total sense.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Well the evidence suggests that that is exactly what you are doing.

You see you dont have an argument so what you are doing is asking me to do what you keep falsely accusing me of 'to take your word for it'.

[lrina]

ok, whatever you say.

[Opinion Owner]

@lrina Nope.

[lrina]

okay.