ANTIFA mob shows up to riot at Republican Stan Pulliam's "Fund The Police" rally. Attack on free speech?

[Anonymous]

I got ya a link to a Portland news site since I know y'll will bitch if I posted the FOX NEWS coverage. www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/group-throws-flash-bangs-feces-during-campaign-rally-pulliam-says/

But a mob of ANTIFA members showed up during a rally to support funding the police. Apparently, the event took place ONE street over from the police station, and when the mob began throwing paint-filled balloons, firecrackers, poop, and various other fun things, it took police 20 minutes to respond--by which time the mob had dispersed. Police reported that 2 people had been injured from explosions. Perhaps police really could use some extra funding? While lamestream media and democraps cry about the "right's dangerous attack on free speech and democracy", this violent bs from the left continues to take place.

Who is really threatening our free speech? Is it Elon? The guy who openly supports free speech and the importance of hearing both sides of an argument? Or is it the left who supports these violent thugs who attack people for daring to have different opinions? Ah, heck. Here's the Fox link in case you want to see the interview with Stan Pulliam. www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/antifa-mob-wreaks-havoc-on-gop-candidates-portland-rally-from-roses-to-riots/ar-AAWPH4H?ocid=uxbndlbing

[goaded]

I can't read the article, it's blocked to Europeans, but I notice the words: "Pulliam Says". Pulliam being the organiser of the protest.

As to the Portland police not responding for 20 minutes, isn't that usually so the right can get their licks in before they turn up and start arresting people?

[LazyProphet]

Of course its an attack on free speech, literally a violent attack to stop speech they don't agree with. That's how fucking stupid and warped the left is, to think that funding the police is "hate speech". They claim to want free speech but are the leaders of cancel culture, they're just nazis who want to spread their propaganda.

[purplepoppy]

Have you Americans ever thought about just shutting up for 5 minutes and stopping the non stop protests? All you ever do is enrage each other get nowhere. Try calming down and you'll find the otherwise will to.

[Asker]

well the "protests" which are actually violent riots are coming from 1 side only and supported by the Joe Biden regime. I've never been a big supporter of seeing a one-sided fight and punishing both sides, soooo nope. :P Free speech is quite literally under attack, and I'd bet my third nut that the same is happening where you live even if you pretend everything's just fine.

[caitycat21]

Define: free speech?

[purplepoppy]

Free speech should be about expressing an option but also listening in exchange. Now it's just who can drown out the other. The simple fact is once you've been shown to be wrong continually banging on just makes you look like an idiot.

[Agagagagaga]

@purplepoppy Have you Europeans ever thought about keeping your thoughts on America to your goddamn selves? Hmmm?

[caitycat21]

That question was targeted at op *

[Slingblade1126]

@Agagagagaga they can't. When you're the big man on campus everyone comes gunning for you to cover their own insecurities. I never worry about the big bad UK, because they're insignificant to the world.

[Agagagagaga]

@Slingblade1126 Agreed. The UK is a 3rd rate power at this point. India, China, even South Korea hold more influence internationally.

I think it’s hilarious how Europe treats America like the hot girl in school that they are jealous of and hate lol. They wish everyone would stop talking about them but they themselves can’t stop talking about them.

[caitycat21]

Y’all are actually delusional if you hold the US to that high of a standard

[007kingifrit]

we'd have to kill the communists first

[Slingblade1126]

@007kingifrit It is amazing how many "pro domacracy" cowards have blocked me!

[caitycat21]

Blocking someone isn’t a threat to your fragile democracy dumb ass

[caitycat21]

@077kingifrit kill all the worthless fascists. Every last one of fascist scum deserve to have your heads chopped off

[Anonymous]

I think the app you’re looking for is Truth Social.

[Asker]

I don't do apps. But I've heard good things. 😁

[Opinion Owner]

It is a website as well.

[Asker]

oh. that's great. And very helpful. However, I shall remain here fighting the good fight, as they say. Sowing seeds of truth, helping the good people of THIS website see what's actually happening. :)

[Opinion Owner]

I beg to differ lol but to each their own

[Asker]

yeah, it's cool if you wanna be wrong.

[Opinion Owner]

If being wrong makes you cool then you must be an expert on it☺️

[blissinanarchy1]

Like it or not, free speech also covers those who don't like free speech. And this is also hard to believe, because both extremes of the political spectrum don't like police. Antifa don't, neither do the Nazi's, proudboys, etc

[Agagagagaga]

Pretty sure I’ve never seen the Proud Boys protesting outside of a goddamn bookstore or assaulting journalists.

Or Nazis for that matter—especially since World War 2 ended over 70 GODDAMN YEARS AGO.

But yeah, it’s both sides 🙄

[caitycat21]

Wdym. The proud boys are the police themselves lol, you forget that police officers are in their ranks?

www.washingtonpost.com/.../...2858b696e_story.html

[PinkMichae]

@blissinanarchy1 Do you think proud boys are white supremacist?

[normalice]

Sounds like some fake news, honestly. The right can't exist without crying fake victimhood nonstop and this seems like just more of that.

[DeadlyCreed]

Clearly the terrorist that injured people aren’t infringing on free speech by attacking a rally that they disagree with. It’s Elon who bought Twitter and that’s bad because… he bought Twitter.

[jshm2]

Nope. Quite the opposite.

They were expressing their right to free speech as well.

[Anonymous]

Every time a bunch of stupid people from the "left" riot, the Fox Newsies and Republitarts LOVE to point fingers at the ENTIRE free thinking "liberal" community. BUT, when conservative or right wingnuts riot, it's fine by them. Idiots.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

It’s justified. The left overwhelmingly support the rioting of those ideologically aligned to them. And the right have rioted like only like twice, but the media of course frames it as literally the worst thing ever and that Nazis are taking over. The leftward bias is clear.

[Opinion Owner]

@AllThatSweetJazz Total bullshit, and this statement here " The left overwhelmingly support the rioting of those ideologically aligned to them" merely shows how much you've been influenced by your own media bias. You've overwhelmingly bought into the idea that "the left" supports "any riot" because... hmm, duh, they're "the left". But oh, only "like twice" has "the RIGHT" ever rioted? Seriously - such nonsense invalidates any discourse you offer on the subject.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

The problem is it’s accurate. The “right” weren’t doing the rioting., and the left was. The leftist establishment literally supported the rioters. Kamala Harris was bailing out rioters during the Floyd riots. While everyone else was being locked down, the progressive governors and law enforcement permitted the protests to carry on and looked the other way when violence broke out. And all the ignorant default leftist go along with this shit and/or just don’t pay attention because it’s “their team” without understanding any of the discourse going on surrounding the issues they end up voting on. The more sensible ones will speak slightly negative about the riots, but still try to rationalize the validity of the messaging and end up in a kind of limbo not necessarily agreeing with them but too scared to say anything their tribe perceives as bad.

[Opinion Owner]

@AllThatSweetJazz Your example is of a fractional group of people who hurt their own cause. But guess what? I know for a FACT that much of it was stirred up by right wing extremists who were planted there and hired to agitate, as well as those who just took it upon themselves to take advantage of an easy situation. Talk about too afraid to speak against their tribe? What a joke. Right wingers and Repubs sucked Trump's dick even when they knew damn well he was being a fool. They didn't give two shits because it would get them re-elected. The Pubs are the biggest bunch of sheep going, with the Dems close behind.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Saying it in capitals doesn't make it a fact. Sorry, not real. Made up stuff like that is the attempt by the left to control the narrative ass usual. We've watched it go on for years. Everyone is a nazi, there's racists lurking in every shadow, every man is a sexist raping women with their gaze, blah blah blah it's the same shit.

Trump actually did good things. So saying good things about him when he's doing good things is entirely reasonable. First decent president in decades.

I would agree that the establishment Republican politicians are the biggest sheep, they're lazy and do nothing. They're spineless and just pay lip service, save for a handful. But the Dems are the shepherds. The Dems are frothing at the mouth psychotic corrupt crazy people and all the Republicans do is quietly say "slow down there democrats".

[Opinion Owner]

@AllThatSweetJazz Trump's "good things" can be counted on two or three fingers. He is the most despicable President since Andrew Jackson - he's a living, walking piece of fucking turd shit who has lied and deceived all his life. The fact that you defend his administration beyond the very things he's ever done in the plus column just confirms our previous exchanges. He's putrid, on a good day.

The Republicans are rabid and delusional in a different sort of way than the Dems, but in the end, they'll fuck you up the ass every time if you make less than 500K a year. That's the only thing they care about.

[exitseven]

Hopefully this guy has the last laugh and wins the election.

[joeldalton]

Antifa needs to be put down.

[Asker]

like a rabid dog. lol. Yeah, I'm so over their crap

[SignedAutographs]

Antifa?

Are you nuts?

You're a piece of crap, is what you are

[ManHater]

Send in Kyle writtenhouse he would be glad to shoot every single one of these socialist fucks!

[Anonymous]

Protesting a speaker you disagree with isn't an attack on free speech, it's an exercise in free speech. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Yeah the left has got America under the jackboot, time to sever the democrats foot

[Anonymous]

more people paid by george soros for the stupid satanic agenda

[Redhead999]

These nazis need an excuse to riot

[Anonymous]

George Soros needs to get gone, just like Putin.

[OddBeMe]

Man, you right wingers are snowflakes.

[007kingifrit]

communists should not be given rights. period.

[caitycat21]

Lol, as they should

[PinkMichae]

Why?

[caitycat21]

The police disproportionately murder people of my skin complexion unarmed. Police should be defunded and dismantled.

[Slingblade1126]

81% of the "people", of your skin complexion, don't want the police defunded. Don't speak for them. You are fucking clueless#

[caitycat21]

Lol, literally when did I ever say I speak for everyone in my community? That was your assumption. Many poc have made several detailed works explaining police abolition. They are very intelligent individuals and I have taken the time to read their works, maybe you should too instead of blindly calling me “fucking clueless”

[Slingblade1126]

You're preaching to dismantle the police in the "people's" that share your skin complexion community! How am I supposed to understand that?

[Slingblade1126]

Also, maybe you should actually read some polls of how these communities actually feel about the police. AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson don't speak for them either.

[caitycat21]

“Prison relieves us of the responsibility of seriously engaging with the problems of our society, especially those produced by racism and, increasingly, global capitalism.” - Angela Davis

What is your reason for defending the police? Do you think they actually solve crime, I can explain to you why they actually don’t do those things and in fact perpetuate crime because the very system they preserve is corrupt but that education would require you to quit antagonizing me so you can actually possibly learn something from me.

[Slingblade1126]

I can see you've been indoctrinated. I do now understand you admit you know what is best for your "people", even if the vast majority of the people that actually live in these neighborhoods completely disagree with you. Then to top it ofg, you call them unintelligent because they don't agree with you and the fancy writings of those left wingers that know what's best for them. I know who knows what's best for them. They know!

[caitycat21]

You’re a deeply unserious individual

[PinkMichae]

Unfortunately that's what I thought you'd say. And I hate that you believe that. It must suck to think you are a target because of the skin color you were born with. But I ask you to read the statistics. Mistakes happen and there are some police that shouldn't be police. But what the news tells you is a lie for ratings. Most black shootings by police were justified because the person had a weapon and they felt their life or someone else's life was in danger.

They do shoot people of all races. Unfortunately the statistics prove that black people disproportionately commit the most violent crimes yet they only make up I think it's 14% of the population.

[PinkMichae]

So even if it was true that cops disproportionately kill more unarmed black people, they are encountering more violent black criminals than any other criminals of other races. The truth is only 2% of black people killed by police were unarmed. The rest were armed.

Think about that. It doesn't mean there shouldn't be accountability for the deaths of the unarmed black people. It depends on the circumstances. But there's no proof these shootings are because of racism. They are accidents just like with the white, Latino, Asian, and other races they shot. If they were racist white supremacist, why are they not killing off all the other races?

White supremacy use to be a huge problem back in the day. But we have all fought to change that and weed out any remaining white supremacist.

Things have gotten out of control because of politicians and the media. Especially when they can now say black people with right politics are white supremacist. Anyone should have the common sense to know you have to be white to be a white supremacist. The police are multiracial and not going to stand behind white police officers if they were truly racist in their reasons for shooting black people.

Believing what you believe only hurts us moving forward to do better. And defunding the police with only result in more deaths and crime especially against law abiding black people.

The majority of law abiding black people do not want police abolished. During the summer of 2020 when George Floyed was murdered by that officer several democratic cities did defund police. And the results were crime skyrocketed in those same cities.

The police do more good than you think. And I blame politicians and the media who only reports black shootings by cops. If they reported all shootings, the public wouldn't be so wrongly informed.

[PinkMichae]

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[caitycat21]

You’re showing your own internal racism if you believe in the black criminal myth. We do not commit crime at disproportionate rates. Our communities are over policed and under funded, when we commit “crime” it’s for survival.

It’s a statistic fact that the darker your skin color is the more likely you are to get a longer sentence for committing the exact same crimes as a lighter skinned person.

The US has a long history of corruption that began from its very inception it has depended on slave labor and exploitation of other countries. It still does and you’ve been fooled if you think otherwise.

If the police really do more good than I think you’d be able to explain to me straight what they do that’s so good? I mean this in whatever way you take it, but as a white lady in America you have zero clue what the fuck white supremacy is because it benefits you.

And what your claiming isn’t even true. Lol where did you get your information from because this is straight bull shit, during the protests democratic cities increased their police budget. Everything they were saying and doing in the public was just straight optics.

Policing doesn’t fix the root of the problems. It never does, it’s very evident how your understanding of a criminal doesn’t go beyond what the government wants you to think which is something you should really do some critical thinking about.

Criminals are just victims of a system that has failed them - it truly doesn’t matter what crime one has committed. The dehumanization that people face in prison is not a good way whatsoever to rehabilitate them.

In America it’s criminal to be homeless, gay, black, and very soon it’s going to be criminal to have access to a safe abortion.

Rethink your definition of criminality. Because in my opinion, what’s criminal is the fact that a violent system is allowed to have an authoritarian monopoly on violence and as people we should just “comply” and if we get shot unarmed multiple times accept it?

[Anonymous]

Of course this is an attack on free speech!