Is 'MAGA ideology' dangerous?

[OddBeMe]

Yes

No

Not sure

[NewsReader]

No. It's only the far right extremists who are dangerous. But they make up only a tiny portion of the population. MAGA ideology is about putting legal citizens of the United States first / ahead of others. And that's a common sense thing to do. If someone in your family was in danger next to some stranger, you would save your family member first. Biden thinks that the entire population who are right of center are MAGA extremists. He doesn't know that there are many parts within each party. Biden is labeling an entire party as one. I bet Pelosi told him he should have worded it differently to protect himself despite what the left really thinks.

[Anonymous]

Maybe.

But I want to remind everyone that the reason this MAGA cult exists in the first place is because morons on the Left were so willing to believe in EVERYTHING the media shat out of their asses that it created this obsessive hatred for Donald Trump. This is why Trump has such a loyal base, kissing his ass no matter what he does.

This is a monster the Left has created themselves, and the fact that Joe Biden---an even LESS competent president---won the election is proof enough for me that the Left has a cult of their own.

[Bratsondanielle]

Yes. Make America Great Again is very dark and dangerous. We need an America that's completely broken with huge inflation and a disaster at the border. Nobody want America to be great.

[Anonymous]

This all started because one a$$hole wouldn’t concede.

Meanwhile, Democrats just opened up a huge 9-point lead against Republicans in midterm House elections in a new poll.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah we finally found some balls. Hopefully we ride this as far as possible.

[Agagagagaga]

Who didn’t concede, you waste of life? The former President? Amazingly he had full command of the military as commander in chief, not to mention law enforcement in the Capital, and he simply stepped aside.

In fact the only shot fired in anger was from a police officer who killed a woman crawling through a window.

Thank God she didn’t make it through, otherwise the Orange Man would still be in charge!

Moron. 🙄

[OddBeMe]

@Agagagagaga casting doubt on the election system without proof isn't stepping aside.

[JDavid25]

Hilary never conceded.. She was saying that Trump cheated for a long time, and probably still is..

[OddBeMe]

@JDavid25 she did actually. Unofficially the night of the 2016 election, officially when it was fact.

[JDavid25]

Right, while for all of his term she kept saying "Trump knows he didn't win legitimately".. Over and over again.. So, no she didn't.

[DryGermanGuy]

Quote:
"Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I’m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country. [...]

We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead."

edition.cnn.com/.../index.html

[JDavid25]

@DryGermanGuy
https://youtu.be/bwc0cJ409VQ
https://youtu.be/XQesfLIycJw
https://youtu.be/N5id385Zaec
https://youtu.be/y_S9gRx44bk

She continued to basically call Trumps Presidency illegitimate.. Doesn't sound like Conceding..

[grega239]

No. It started when some asshole ran as a republican candidate and the dems flipped out about it

[DryGermanGuy]

Hillary Clinton conceded. So loud and clear that everybody understood it. She specifically mentioned the peaceful transfer of power. She did everything by the book. It’s irrelevant what it sounds to #you#.

[JDavid25]

@DryGermanGuy Right she conceded while going with the phony Russia narrative, saying that Trumps Presidency is illegitimate, and telling Joe Biden not to concede beat any cost. She didn't even concede in front of her audience. The words you posted are just fluff at the end of the day. Her actions spoke louder.

[DryGermanGuy]

Her actions spoke to it that a peaceful transfer of power was possible, as it should be. Not that insane mess Trump created with his childish lies since the 2020 election.
Oh and the Russian "hoax" had 25 people indicted. Quite a way to go for just a hoax, don't you think?

[JDavid25]

@DryGermanGuy Right, while she kept saying that his Presidency was illegitimate.. And even told Joe Biden not to Concede.. And at the very least Trump knows how he is and doesn't hide it.. He has a bigger, he likes attention and doesn't like to lose.. And there was plenty of evidence for ballot tampering and a YouTuber even went to the addresses posted on ballots and found empty parking lots and buildings, plenty of dead people too.. They didn't even do an investigation into the matters..

Whereas there was no evidence of Russia inference.. Also 25 people being indicted means absolutely nothing.. That's a general statement.. They tried their hardest to try and impeach Trump and send him to prison, if they had anything incriminating on the man they would have put him under already.. It's just political theater and grand standing..

[JDavid25]

@DryGermanGuy big ego***..

[OddBeMe]

@JDavid25 on Hill’s videos…I would say there's a difference between right after the vote, conceding as she did…and then a few years later selling her memoirs to a crowd of liberals.

[JDavid25]

Selling memoirs would be saying "America has fallen to a new low voting in somebody like Trump".. Vs. A politician declaring A Presidency to be illegitimate and saying the Russia tampered with the election..

[OddBeMe]

@JDavid25 and you seem triggered by that?

[JDavid25]

Not really, I'm just saying that it's not Conceding...

[OddBeMe]

@JDavid25 several years after. When libs were triggered by a lot of corrupt shit in Trump’s admin. And again, she was selling a memoir, not trying to overturn an election.

Intent matters.

[JDavid25]

It wasn't several years after, she was saying that even in 2017, which she said on CBS in the last video I posted in this comment section.. And, I don't get what a memoir has to do with a Presidency being illegitimate.. Hilary already had her fanbase. She didn't need to say anything about illegitimate Presidency.. She was basically preaching to the choir if that were the case..

[Juxtapose]

You guys will fucking swallow anything the dems say, just look at what Biden speech was like and how people on MSNBC are saying it's a war speech.

At this point you are pushing moderates towards Republicans because we have no other choice.

[goaded]

Yeah, you're totally a moderate, and you totally listened to the speech.

"Folks, and it’s up to us. Democracy begins and will be preserved, and we the people’s habits of the heart — in our character, optimism that is tested, yet endures, courage that digs deep when we need it. Empathy that fuels democracy. The willingness to see each other not as enemies but as fellow Americans."

[Juxtapose]

@goaded I heard the speech man, you can cherry pick all you want but even MSNBC is calling him out.

[goaded]

Show me them saying that. Show me the part of the speech they're talking about. There's a transcript here www.nytimes.com/.../biden-speech-transcript.html

[Juxtapose]

@goaded "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic."

That is pre-genocide rhetoric.

[goaded]

No, it's explaining the facts of a group of people where there's a ton of evidence that they tried multiple illegal ways, from forgery to violence, to steal the presidency of the United States from the voters. There's no chance of "genocide", because they're just a bunch of criminals, not an ethnic, religious, or national group, and their crimes aren't capital ones. Probably.

[Juxtapose]

Even if Trump was guilty that doesn't make MAGA people guilty as well. He is dehumanizing the right wing and setting the far left up to massacre them.

[goaded]

Massacre? Really? This from the party who loves people who talk seriously about starting a civil war.

The rest is a good description of what the Republican party has been doing for decades. Look at Gingrich's list of words to use describing Democrats, from the 1990's.

The people aiding and abetting Trump include large numbers of legislators. The bulk of the voters are doing it because they believe the lies, but the legislators know better and either encourage the lies or refuse to speak out against them, regardless. How many Republican legislators who won their elections in 2020 have claimed their election wasn't valid because Trump didn't win in their state?

[Juxtapose]

You keep trying to deflect what Biden said because what he said is indefensible. Even MSNBC thinks he's crazy.

[goaded]

Once more. What did Biden say that is indefensible?

Saying that people who committed obvious crimes to steal the presidency, like forgery of official documents (the "alternate electors" strategy), or outright violence to stop the count (we now know Trump knew that his supporters were armed before they went to the Capitol), are extreme and trying to destroy the republic?

Trump's currently talking about pardoning the people who rioted on his behalf. What happened to rule of law?

[JDavid25]

I don't see the "MAGA Idealogy" burning down buildings, or ruining businesses, or going around streets knocking out anybody who voted for Joe Biden, or threatening random people.. Never seen Trump or the MAGA people trying to censor anybody opinions.. He let the media talk all they wanted to about him.. In fact he actually liked it because he liked the attention.. Soo.. I don't know what's dangerous about it.

[jshm2]

Any cult ideology is dangerous.

So called MAGA is dangerous as it's similar to the rhetoric of Hitler, Pol Pot and Mussolini. Giving unconditional platform and power to a less than exemplary individual.

[godfatherfan]

Trump, the red hat lemmings, and republican's are nothing but hate spewing trash with many, including Trump, being traitors to this country.

[NathanDavis]

all ideologies are dangerous by default...

"to hold a pen... is to be at war"

[OddBeMe]

I see your point. But there's a special anti intellectual quality to them.

[Anonymous]

No, of course not. They are great. They just wish America was great again, unlike certain rioters that held "fiery but peacful protests", looted and stopped ambulances.

But I can understand you think some great things have happened under Biden, like the abortion ban. Truly great stuff of greatness.

[Dargil]

Dangerous to Democrats, the FBI and DOJ? Yes, it is.

[OddBeMe]

You sound anti fbi and doj…

[dustybiker]

Is that a threat?

[Dargil]

Imagine that.

[Dargil]

@dustybiker no, just an opinion.

[Snakeyes7]

It's only "dangerous" to totalitarians who think that anyone who disagrees with them is a threat.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it's a fascist cult.

[OddBeMe]

you're not entirely wrong… Its touchy to compare politicans to hitler obvi. But there are similarities to 30s Germany.

[Opinion Owner]

The more appropriate comparison would be to Mussolini who invented fascism.

[OddBeMe]

Maybe. But germany literally had a democratic govt in Weimar which makes it closer to home for us. But the entire continent was experiencing hardship like Americans appear to be now, or back in 2015. Trump was a personality cult. Hillary a rigid robot.

[dustybiker]

He looks like he practices that look in the mirror each morning to try and convince even himself.

[OddBeMe]

@dustybiker funny how Muss and Hitler actually did practice from actors. Trump could've used that.

[dustybiker]

Missed opportunity.

[goaded]

@dustybiker He wouldn't have paid them.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded yet he has acolytes that go to prison for him….

[goaded]

Except they got pardons.

[Quigly]

Democracy is dangerous to the criminal idiot Joe Biden.

All Joe can do is push fear and paranoia to try and sway the numbers.

[OddBeMe]

(Checking prison sentences)
Trump’s cronies: like a dozen
Hillary: Zero.

[OddBeMe]

And Biden: Zero

[Quigly]

I see, you're saying Putin is entirely innocent and all the people that disagreed with him that were killed or thrown in prison were just criminals.

Such a useful idiot you are.

[OddBeMe]

Umm, no.. putin is a dictator. We have a democracy.

[Quigly]

Rigged Elections, Fake News and Corrupt Courts makes Putin a Dictator.
Rigged Elections, Fake News and Corrupt Courts make Joe Biden a Dictator.

[OddBeMe]

Prove any of that happens in the US. Please no spam links.

[exitseven]

No, except to moonbats. It is beneficial to American citizens.

[CaptainSmartass]

All ideology is dangerous, really. Only 'extremists' have an ideology, regular people have views.

Simples...

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I don't even know what they believe in? But anytime you have radicals in a movement then that movement typically is dangerous.

[AngryCarl]

What ideology? It's just a cult of personality.

[grega239]

No.

Leftist groups have done far more damage than maga

[Anonymous]

Only to the Democrats. It'll take your big power away from them.

[Still-alive]

They are terrorists

[Still-alive]

'Brown shirts' effectively

[OddBeMe]

Red shirts. “Go back to Russia!”

[msc545]

Yes, absolutely.

[MiseriaCantareAFI]

Very