I've just seen them get mad and irritated but no actual counter points.
Can any woman here specifically say why he is wrong or at least tell me he's talking about a minority of women?
would it be not easier if you asked for the women that would be like...
" I approve and agree with absolutely everything Andrew Tate says about me as a woman
in fact I agree so much with him that I absolutely live my life the very same way Andrew Tate says I should be living my life
therefore I am the happiest woman I can be and I do have the greatest man and children in my life who are also more than happy with the way I am, which is the Andrew Tate way "
I think that if you wanted to "validate" your beliefs in Andrew Tate, this approach would find you better results... lol
Dude is a scammer I wouldn’t say he’s the most reliable source of information
He tries to push traditional gender roles and masculine authority and many women including myself just aren’t attracted or satisfied with the lifestyle nor are we attracted to or satisfied with a man of his kind of disposition. Yes I’ve tried it, and no I didn’t like it. So he can say what we wants but I’ll continue to live my life the way that pleases me and he can just get over it.
So, I do think it is just assumed that he's talking about the majority of women or women in general.
I think he is primarily talking to men whenever he makes content.
Personally, I think the men don't want to believe the majority of modern US women are cheaters, whores, etc.
I know I don't.
It creates a mixture of hopelessness and bitterness.
It also doesn't help that the women around these types of men are quite literally what these men are talking about, almost as if these men chose these women to support their claims.
Also, it doesn't help how more women don't try to disprove these claims. A lot just get mad without saying anything of substance.
All of this makes it seem like what people like Tate are saying is actually true.
I think both would be great to be honest.
I do think calling out things that are literally toxic for men, will naturally benefit women as well. Also, vice versa.
Could you imagine a man thinking nearly all or the majority of women in his country are whores (slept with a lot of men) likely to cheat, want him for more vain/materialistic reasons, etc.
And then accepting this because this is just what women are?
Imagine the reverse for women?
I think most would rather be single forever than tolerate or just accept this to be true of men or women.
Yeah, I'll check you out
Do you have anything to say on his points on women?
For example, if you think he's wrong can you tell me why?
No, I don't think that's good or okay.
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I don't like him. And most of this is because of how he acts and only some of it is for what he says. He looks down on women for having sex but flaunts how much sex he has. He surrounds himself with women who are sugarbabies or otherwise accept money/trips for sex and then uses these same dumb women in his videos to prove his point that he is right and women are stupid because he knows that an average woman would eat him up in his stupid debate so he gets bimbos to sit there and look dumb instead. He continuously talks over people but especially women. He is known for encouraging violence towards women. He is just bad news.
And for anyone who had some time to look into him, it is quite obvious he is a scam artist. Much of the lifestyle he portraits isn't real, the houses and cars are leased and so are the women (who might not even be having sex with him by the way). He sells 'the dream' to these naive, impressionable guys and collects his income through course fees and merch. Yet I can't feel sorry for these guys because their dream seems to be centered around suppressing women to feel more masculine. He is literally portraying the type of male which caused the extreme feminism waves in the recent years.
He is the one being investigated for rape, kidnapping and human trafficking I understand?
Then he is obviously nothing more than scum and that people like you follow him says more about the kind of people you are.
So, I don't know about all of that. I think a lot of that is definitely up to debate and can be even taken out of context.
Do you have anything to say about his actual points on women here in the US?
Maybe you should look into what he is being investigated for and decide if that’s someone that deserves to have any kind of following or if he should be thrown into a pit of hungry dogs.
I don't really look into his content all that much, but it is hard to avoid because it's everywhere.
I just want his actual points to be debated against.
Because if I do agree with you that he is a bad man, I'd also like to agree with you that what he says is wrong
But you're only telling me he's a bad man, not that what he says is wrong?
Or do you have something to say about that?
I avoid his content very easily as there are far more interesting things to see than angry men with issues.
Okay, I'm not sure you are getting my point.
She’s never listened to him and just wants to say he’s awful.
I’ve never listened to him either. I assume he gives dating advice or something?
He believes in purity culture
He holds himself to a higher standard compared to women
Only interviews/ talks to one demographic of woman
Uses degrotary terms to refer to women who do not fit his ideal
He moved to Romania because the rape penalty is less severe
Is accused of trafficking
And has beat multiple women.
Why are people still giving this guy attention?
I believe I heard somewhere that with the banning of him from many social media platforms that his popularity has increased at least initially.
Now, to answer your question from a more overall perspective, meaning, why has he even gotten so popular to begin with I'll do.
Personally, I think what he says has a lot of truth in it, as well as a lot of falsities, exaggerations, etc. Now, on top of all of this, the manner or tone in which he says this seems to attract a lot of attention everywhere.
Andrew Tate doesn't choose the most politically correct manner of saying his point.
Now, I think men are trying to grapple with what they are hearing with what is actually true and what they believe is true based on their experience.
The stuff Andrew Tate says about women, specifically modern women in the US, can make many men bitter, hopeless, angry, and sad about their prospects on finding a good woman here in the US.
It baffles me that anybody actually listens to “social media influencers”, but whatever. I have no idea what he says about women but I can probably guess what it is. I looked him up and all I got were articles about him being under criminal investigation for human trafficking and kidnapping.
Lets not forget that he has intentionally built somewhat of a cultish support base as well as associate himself with people who are just trading clout. Basically he will always have someone supporting him and there are a lot of people who push him onto their platform for personal benefits.
The sad thing is, I don't think most men want to believe what is said as true for the majority of women.
I haven't even really tuned into his content, but since it's all over the place on YouTube, Instagram, and elsewhere it is difficult to not know of him or his content.
Also, it doesn't help that the women usually around him and those who share the same belief as him are nearly precisely what he is talking about when he mentions promiscuous women, low value or quality women, cheating women, etc.
To me, it's rather extremely toxic for men, but naturally for the majority of women who aren't this way.
I wish more women would come out and go against this stuff rather than get mad but don't actually say anything of substance.
What does he say then?