Is Kyrie Irving the next Kanye?

[RolandCuthbert]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/espn-jesse-washington-nets-address-153615839.html

After being called out by Nets governor Joe Tsai for promoting a link to an antisemitic film, Nets star Kyrie Irving took a defiant stance in a Saturday press conference, denying that the work is antisemitic and saying that he is “not going to stand down on anything that I believe in.”

Jesse Washington explains why Kyrie has to be shut down.

“No, Irving did not explicitly call for violence, and has said nothing to indicate he would go that far. He doesn’t have to. There are too many disturbed people out there who are willing to kill, who consider themselves foot soldiers in an army fighting threats that exist only in their own twisted minds. By posting a link to a book that falsely paints Jewish people as the enemy, Irving could be giving ammunition to the next killer. And even without bloodshed, all of society suffers when prominent people encourage the falsehood that one group, just because of its ancestry, is inherently sinister or dangerous.

…. Posting a link to this type of material does harm people. It reinforces an ancient ignorance that continues to inflict misery on countless people today. Just ask the Jewish kids who endure taunts about the Holocaust in school, or the Jewish families whose homes have been defaced with swastikas. Elevating these lies has real consequences, but Irving refused to accept that fact.”

The thing that is weird is that Kyrie has not built up any good-will with respect to maga. So he is going to disappear with a whimper.

Shame. . .

:D

[USLegionary]

He basically stating what a lot of African Americans believe about Jews. Black Lives Matter have long perpetuated this stuff, as for MAGA remember Trump's daughter and kids are Jewish.

I dont see what was so wrong about the documentary, I mean we have all sorts of documentaries that show white Christians in America in a poor light sometimes justified often not.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZG2PHg1dGJI

Perhaps sending Kendall Jenner down with some Pepsi will help.

[RolandCuthbert]

When racists go crazy, they go full on crazy.

So when Kanye was spouting anti-semtism it was true. But when Kyrie was doing it, then he was wrong.

haha!!!

[USLegionary]

I didn't say either was right or wrong. Though I'm amazed to say MAGA Conservatives are anti semitic white Supremacists when Trump's daughter and grandkids are Jewish, though I'm sure that if conservative youtuber Ben Shapiro was saying what Kanye and Kyrie are saying you would brand him antisemitic too.

[RolandCuthbert]

Right. So you are not anti-semitic. I mean, anti-semitism might be true or not.

This is how insane you are.

What race is Kanye West? And are you saying he lost his billions because he is "White" MAGA conservative? Is he anti--semitic or not? Or is this totally dependent upon what political argument you are making at the time. Sometimes it is more effective to claim "White" MAGA supporters cannot be anti-semitic but "Black" ones can be. It is confusing isn't it?

All you see is race, which makes any analysis from you nonsensical. You are trying to connect the insanity of race to rational thinking,.

It doesn't work like that. Race and racism are insane. And if you are going to lead with that, just stop pretending that rational folks can understand anything you are trying to say.



www.nbcnews.com/.../kanye-west-instagram-ye-suspended-jewish-people-anti-semitic-rcna54826

Ye suspended from Instagram again after targeting Jewish people in post.

Ye posted news of his latest social media suspension on the conservative platform Parler, which he is set to acquire.

[USLegionary]

You are the one making it about race and Judaism. One minute you are calling black Conservatives like Kanye and candance owens uncle Tom's the next you are saying Conservatives are being racist towards them, you can't make up your mind.

[RolandCuthbert]

You are a liar. I would never call a "Black" person an Uncle Tom. But you are not going pretend "Black" people need to support each other because of their skin color and not because of their love of "Black" culture and the "Black" experience.

So again, you made it about race when you lied claiming only "White" MAGA is persecuted for anti-semitism.

When it is the reverse. Find a "White" MAGA rich dude, who is heading to the poor house like Kanye.

And make no mistake, Kanye is going broke. He doesn't know how to live like a regular person.

[USLegionary]

Kanye will be fine. I get there's inflation and the Woke mafia are after him but if he really is a billionaire then he's got mote money than he can spend in a lifetime.
A rich MAGA dude like Trump, who isn't heading to the poor house despite a lot of effort being made.
I dont know if black people need to support each other anymore than white Christian Conservatives but they certainly need to stop tearing each other down.

[RolandCuthbert]

Of course he won't be fine. Even Kanye is telling you what is happening to him.

economictimes.indiatimes.com/.../95184969.cms

Kanye West loses over $1 billion in deals, says he’s been ‘Beat to a Pulp’

And he is about to learn. . . because "White" conservatives never supported Kanye. They sure won't support him now. But even trumplicans will desert him. I mean, they only were cheering the anti-"Black" stuff. But as soon as he mentioned Jews, everyone scattered.

The funny thing is, you still haven't decided if Kanye is anti-semitic or not.

You are so fake.

[USLegionary]

White Conservatives don't support anyone except their family. I mean I'm not going to go out and buy Nikes for $200 no matter what celebrity endorses it. I may listen to some Kanye on Spotify or YouTube.
Most white Conservatives are about saving their money and prepping. You can't rely on the government to come save you. That's why I think ultimately Kanye will be OK because companies like Nike are targeting white Conservatives by selling shoes that cost $4 to make in a sweat shop in China, they are targeting the African American community. White Conservatives generally don't buy into advertising too much. Jalen Hurts isn't going to convince me to buy a new truck or wear nikes or drink sports drinks. Maybe a new Jersey for game day.

[USLegionary]

Nike *aren't* targeting white Conservatives

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, Kanye wasn't getting money from music. I mean, I just posted the article describing his loss of wealth.

But none of this matters. He is falling, no one will catch him.

I am still waiting for an answer. Is Kanye anti-semitic or not?

:D

[USLegionary]

If he lost that then he never really had it.

[RolandCuthbert]

But isn't he an anti-semite though?

[USLegionary]

No I don't believe he is. He's always had time for Ivanka Trump who is a jew
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[RolandCuthbert]

So you are just a troll and a liar. What did Ivanka say about Ye? He even specifically targeted Jared Kushner.

nymag.com/.../...-kim-kardashian-kanye-dinner.html

Ivanka Trump and Kim Kardashian Denounce Kanye West via PR Dinner.

Much of the comments centered on a since-deleted Instagram post in which West wrote, “F— JOSH KUSHNER,” slamming the younger Kushner for investing in his ex-wife Kim Kardashian’s underwear line SKIMS (an investment that was made by Kushner’s company Thrive Capital before the two announced their public breakup).

West added a message about Josh’s older brother, writing: “JARED WAS HOLDING TRUMP BACK.”

[USLegionary]

Nothing antisemitic about any of that and likewise its not racist for the Kushner's to denounce Kanye.
And I'm not lying when I said he always had time for Ivanka if you were sharp enough to read the story in the link you quoted where Kanye clearly states " Ivanka is fire". Obviously Kim is getting Ivanka in the divorce

[RolandCuthbert]

Of course it was anti-semitic. Because he claims Jews are the ones who are persecuting him.

And again, Ivanka denounced him for posting anti-semitic garbage. Then on top of that claim that the only Jewish person in the administration held him back.

You are a liar. . . and a troll.

Kanye is actually one of those "Black" dudes claiming "Black" people are the original Jews. . . and the 'White" ones are the fake Jews.

You didn't know that, did you?

You are hilarious.

www.haaretz.com/.../00000183-cd2b-d8cc-afc7-ffef7e570000

‘Black People Are Actually Jew[s]’: The History Behind Kanye West’s Inflammatory Comments

[USLegionary]

Are there Jews actively persecuting him seeking to cancel and messing with his buisness?
Did that Kushner guy hold trump back, maybe he did.
Yeah a lot of Black Lives Matter folks are pretty antisemitic and believe black folks were Jews, though there are black Hebrews in eithiopia and have been since before the birth of christ.
None of what you say proves Kanye is antisemitic. Are the Jews denouncing him being racist?

[RolandCuthbert]

Nah, no one canceled him until he said anti-semitic crap. Then they canceled him. So now you don't know if you support Jared and Ivanka any longer.

You are one confused troll. Do you think trump supports Kanye? And if he doesn't why are you still pretending to support him.

I don't have to prove Kanye is anti-semitic. You are an internet troll. I just have to prove that everyone you claim supports him, now denounces him and says he is crazy.

Because you are disingenuous. You don't care about anti-semitism. You just offered support to Ye because you think he supports your politics. And even your chief turd no longer wants to be seen with him.

[USLegionary]

I dont like to see bullies gang up on someone. Kanye is just going through a tough time and those in the media no matter their faith are just exploiting another black man

[RolandCuthbert]

Of course you support bullying. You just don't in this case because you think Ye supports your politics. And it is weird to see a trumpturd. . . not be obedient and do what trump wishes.

Why are you supporting him, when trump says he needs psychological help?

Do you agree with Kanye that "Blacks" are the original Jews?

:D

West ranted about “the Jewish people” while he’s impervious to charges of anti-Semitism because he’s also a Jew “as the blood of Christ.” He then said the Jewish people control all facets of media and entertainment and said they have “owned the Black voice” — a trope frequently espoused by neo-Nazis.

[USLegionary]

Well to be fair Jews are over represented in the media just like African Americans are over represented in gangsta rap music. I mean I can't think of a hot female actress that isn't Jewish.

[RolandCuthbert]

What do you mean by over represented? Are you saying the KKK is not represented in rap music? You guys in the KKK don't make rap music. If fact, I don't think you guys do much in the creative space. You seem to have only two interests, talking about "White" supremacy and politics.

Blame yourself for that.

As for "White" people in Hip-Hop, the numbers grow every generation.

But you didn't answer the question.

Is Kanye right? Are "Black" people the original Jews?

[USLegionary]

A ethnic minority that is only 1% of the population yet African Americans and others are under represented. How few Hispanic and African American news reporters on say CNN? or directing movies?

[RolandCuthbert]

An ethnic minority? WTF? You believe in race. So use your racial stats. Was for who or what is African-American, there isn't real statistic on that. Because the government still has not switched from being concerned about race to being concerned about culture.

Because racists are really weird folks.

Uhm. . . you do realize that Hispanics are "White", right?

What is wrong with you? Go talk to Hispanic Cool Guy. Ask about the racial make up of his family.

WTF?

And again, is Kanye right? Are "Black" people the original Jews?

[USLegionary]

So you don't believe ethnicity or race but do believe in racism.
Hispanic refers to a broad spectrum of spainish speaking peoples from Spain, to the Philippines, central and south America. You can be spainish and white ie the majority of Argentinians and spainyards and Mexicans like Canelo or black or Asian and be Hispanic.
How can you not believe in race then decide that Hispanics are all white.
Going by democrat race theory most Hispanics in the US are non white mexican

[RolandCuthbert]

Yes, because you are a racist. I can't convince you that race does not exist. If I tell you that you and are have more genetically in common than me and a person from sub-Sahara Africa. You would reject that basic scientific fact. And you would cling to your mythology and lie of race and racism. Then you would proceed to classify, hate and justify/commit violence on that basis.

No Hispanic refers to "White" people. Go ask Hispanic Cool Guy what his race is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81KRF7IL3k

I think in the coming years, racists like you are going to have a hard time. Because at least other "White" supremacists have a working definition of the "White" race. Well. . . sort of.

But no racist at GaG has put forward a definition of how "White" is objectively defined. Oh, I take a Hispanics words. If a "White" person thinks they are "White", then they are "White". If "White" people decide to reject them, then that's when I would say, they are mistaken.

But Hispanic Cool Guy has been "White" for as long as he has been at GaG. And no racist here has claimed he was not "White". So he has to be "White".

[USLegionary]

Can't be racist if race doesn't exist. Hispanic cool guy might be White or consider himself white but Hispanics in the Philippines don't consider themselves white, nor do most Mexicans who for the most part consider their ethnicity a mix of the natives and spainish to varying degrees.

[RolandCuthbert]

That's like saying truth doesn't exist since it does not have physical form.

Hispanics in the Philippines? What are you smoking. Filipinos are called Asian or Pacific Islanders.

And don't put race on me. That's your theory. There are only four races in insane crazy race theory. People who reject racist nonsense believe in culture and ethnicity. You do not.

For me there are thousands of different cultural groups and ethnicities and that is my concern.

Not your silly nonsensical theory about racial groups.

As for Mexicans, I just posted a video of a "White" Latino. Why do you pretend that the video isn't there is weird. I am not asking your racist ass, who you think is "White". But anyone who speaks English can see she sees herself as "White".

What racists think is up to them.

[USLegionary]

You can't make up your mind. Race doesn't exist but Hispanics are white. Hispanic is more to do with language than perceived race, its basically Spainish speakers from the olde spainish colonial empire. Latino is more inclusive of Brazilians who are not Hispanic but in general Latino is not a word used anywhere else except in the US as an umbrella term to bunch all spainish and Portuguese speakers who orginate from South of the boarder when the majority of so called Hispanics and Latinos prefer to be identified by the country or nationality of the their birth or parents birth.
Latino was coined by the French when they tried to create an American empire for france in central and south America. Latins being a term used to describe those who spoke the romance languages descended from old roman Latin of French, spainish, Portuguese, Italian and a few others. French Canadians identify as French rather than Latino.

[RolandCuthbert]

I made up my mind probably before you were born.

Race does not exist.

I can't make a decision for a person who claims they are "White". Believe it or not. I don't have superpowers. I can't force you accept race does not exist. I can't force the woman in the video to believe that race does not exist. I can only give you the scientific evidence that shows that race is not scientific.

It is just a bunch of superstitious nonsense.

That does not stop superstitious nonsense from existing. Racists have murdered in the name of race for hundreds of years. And for hundreds of years folks have told them to "stop".

But racists haven't stopped yet.

You post all this stuff about things you don't believe. You believe in four races. "Black", "White", "Yellow" and "Red".

You don't know your own theory?

Dude, go to stormfront. They got you!

:D

[MAC1983]

What is the book, some kind of modern "The Protocols of the Sages of Siam"?
(that is an 19th century Russian fake antisemitic propaganda book, if you don't know - Will Eisner told the story of it in graphic novel form...)

[MAC1983]

I was not very helpful to the discussion, and wrote "book" instead of "film", but thank you despite that. Since I am not American nor followed the discussion it was better to just put some historical perspective on it.

They said very similar things about the fake book, trying to give it validity. Eisner put the nail on it's coffin for good.

[USLegionary]

Dave Chapelle on kanye. " If they black its a gang, Italian its a mob. If Jewish its a coincidence & you better not speak about it or they cancel you."

[RolandCuthbert]

@USLegionary Dave Chappelle isn't insane. He also isn't a "White" supremacist. In the sane, non-"White" supremacist world, some African-Americans have disagreements with many Jewish Americans. Jewish folks may have disagreements with some Arab-Americans. American Indians have with portions of the Latin-American community.

And so on.

But in not one of those disagreement have these folks decided to side with a single point "White" supremacists have raised or believe in when it comes to Jews running the world. It sounds like the same drivel you accuse other folks of. Don't be jealous of the Jews because their culture embraces intelligence, education, and entrepreneurship. Copy them.

Besides the obvious fact, this is coming from a man who believes that most in the mythical "Black" race are in a gang and are prone to violence.

So why would you even post this and pretend to be serious about it?

[USLegionary]

Yeah but what African Americans are seeing is that yiu can have arguments and speak out against whitey, Arab Americans, Mexicans, Muslims, Latins etc but not Jews because they have the power to silence you and take your money.

[RolandCuthbert]

@USLegionary No African-Americans are not "seeing" that. We are all seeing the effects that mental illness, left untreated, can have on a person's wealth, family and overall well-being. Kanye is literally disintegrating before our eyes. He was once one of the most powerful figures in music and fashion.

And now he is done.

All because his "friends" wanted to exploit him for their politics, then cast him aside when they were finished.

As for your comments, about the Jews again. . . we can have discussion about the Jews that do not entertain this nonsense about "Blacks" being the original Jews.

You seem to have skipped over that part.

That is what Kanye believes, right? That African-Americans are the original Jews stripped of their identity and "White" Jews have replaced "us".

Your argument is built on a throne of lies and insanity.

In the real world, we can talk about how many "Blacks" feel some in the Jewish community extracted wealth. But that conversation isn't about the insane crap Kanye spoke of. Or the movie Kyrie posted a link to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_sEqfIL9Q

[findacure4wokeness]

@RolandCuthbert Quote"There are too many disturbed people out there who are willing to kill, who consider themselves foot soldiers in an army fighting threats that exist only in their own twisted minds" End Quote. That's what you encourage against people who disagree with you. Say Hello to Migaloo for Me.

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, you are one disturbed little masturbating to interracial porn freak.

[findacure4wokeness]

How many men wants to watch you do a 400 pound mud shark.

[RolandCuthbert]

My honey barely weighs 100lbs. You are thinking of your whack session last night.

:D

That's a mighty strong left arm you got there.

[findacure4wokeness]

@RolandCuthbert Her rancid ass cheeks are 100 pounds each, Yeah right. She is doing you for SJW points or because no white guy will do her or both. At least she won't be as ugly as your children though.

[RolandCuthbert]

I know you wish she was rancid. I know you wish she was ugly.

:D

Because all you have is the cum in your own hand move.

[MountAverage]

Antisemitism is on the rise once again (not that it was ever gone) so we need to stop letting anyone normalize it. We all know where it leads to. Not shutting celebrities down who spread this tiring Nazi garbage is irresponsible.

[RolandCuthbert]

I think Kyrie will be shut down a lot sooner than Kanye. Maga isn't really following or rubberstamping his nonsense. So he has zero support. I mean, he has expressed support and pride for "Black" causes before. So shutting him down will be quick and easy.

Let's see if he falls in line.

Oh, he is a flat-earther!

The man is a flat-earther and has traveled around the world.

WTF?

[Anonymous]

Watch the Film and decide for yourself.

🤷‍♂️

[RolandCuthbert]

I did. Did you?

I mean, this is beyond your usually crazy. This is batshit crazy. An insane rabid racist supporting the assertions of "Black" Israelites.

David Duke would crucify you.

[Thotkiana]

Stop blaming this man for grown ass people acting up

[RolandCuthbert]

What?

[goaded]

Of course you can blame people's speech for things stupid people do, when they're influential people and what they say are lies. That speech may not be illegal, but it can and should be socially unacceptable.

[RolandCuthbert]

@goaded I don't think the response was rational. It was just. . .

insane.

[RolandCuthbert]

And you are an insane rabid troll who need counseling and medication.

[ZenJen444]

These jews are getting out of hand