Do you agree with Joe that American tax payers should pay climate change reparations to China?

[SpringValley]

How compromised is this guy and his family? How much dirt does China have on the Bidens? So he wants to take your hard earned dollars and give it to China because of climate change? Really? Will China take the money and build more coal plants?

[MCheetah]

I'm sorry, what the F*CK? Paying China for their pollution and global warming? Like, what? Yet 81 million people supposedly voted for this literal retard?

[SpringValley]

I just got home from visiting my brother, and we talked about stuff like this. I said that if voted for Biden, and he was dumb enough to do shit like this, I'd be way to embarrassed to post some stupid anti-Trump post. But yet we see this daily.

[MCheetah]

@SpringValley
You can't expect accountability or integrity from people who have neither.
The people who hate Trump are literally among the dumbest people in society; the woke. The reason Trump is hated is because he went against the establishment elite by running for - and winning - the presidency in 2016, which put a big delay in all their "You'll own nothing and be happy" plans. That is why THEY hate Trump. Besides being a politician, there is no reason for an ordinary person to hate Trump, so the people who do are beyond being lemmings, sheep, and NPC's. Truly, the dumbest of the dumb, which explains their childish behavior.

I don't even hate Joe Biden; I know he's just a dementia-ridden puppet for the CCP and World Economic Forum. But the fact Normies can't see this, is the truly crazy part. At some point, you'd think people would wake up after he (was ordered to) start spending TRILLIONS of dollars on useless BS after keeping Americans under COVID lockdown for two years. That's like buying a Lamborghini after while on unemployment checks.

Thanks for the MHO.

[MCheetah]

Keep in mind, I never said people couldn't find Trump to be annoying, boorish, a bad president, etc. I'm talking about the people who *HATE* Trump. Want to literally see him dead. Like Kathy Griffin. The TDS mentally ill people. Those are who I'm referring to.

[SpringValley]

You're welcome for the MHO. See... I'm not one of your enemies. lol

So my brother told me tonight that Alyssa Milano said that if Elon was a decent person, he would have donated his billions to charity, rather than buy Twitter. I about blew a gasket. What a fucking moron. Will she be donating her money to charity? Will Oprah? And why do these idiots fear free speech? I'm sure Milano loved Twitter when they banned Trump, but now something has changed.

[exitseven]

@SpringValley Milano announced that she will not be leaving Twitter. Most celebrities will not because it will adversely affect their careers. That is how committed they are.

[SpringValley]

@exitseven
It's like when Whoopi threatened to leave America if Trump got elected. 😂

[joeldalton]

wait, what? Is this real?

[SpringValley]

[joeldalton]

While China may not get reparations they aren't responsible for paying in.

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ies-global-warming.html

Despite being the world's worst polluter.

Fucking clowns.

[SpringValley]

In 12 years, it will be illegal for 17 states to sell new gas-powered cars. There aren't enough raw materials on the planet to make enough electric car batteries. It just simply won't happen. But China will be happy to sell us their batteries, while taking our money for climate reparations.

[pers0n]

And they keep confiscating the long ass list of technology related to energy and vehicles.
There are a lot of them even today, such as the salt battery, and the Canadian defense minister literally stating it as directly as possible www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ati-controls-world.html
Even though he is also lying in ways, we just absolutely know it's nonsense both with transportation and overall climate change.

[SpringValley]

@pers0n
I heard a scientist mention that they know how to take the carbon out of the atmosphere, but the politicians don't care about it.

[oddwaffle]

It depends on if you want to save anything for the future or not because China sure as hell ain't going to without the US giving them something.

China and everyone poor are having the same thoughts: why bother about tomorrow when we can't eat today?

Look at Vietnam. Years ago the government forbid people from chopping down trees for environmental reasons. Without trees the whole region would be flooded and everyone dies. Nobody cared because they needed the sell wood for cash.

Now hundreds people die every year due to flood.

But they have a new business digging up sand in the delta now. Of course it will kill off all the fish, the rice paddy and also cause more severe flooding.

Environmental stuff is like that. Nobody has to do anything but kicking the can down the road. It's not like you have to pay for it until you do.

As an environmentalist. I know where the hammer is going to hit so I just leech for as long as possible and pack my bags before the hammer hit.

[SpringValley]

What will China do with the money?

[oddwaffle]

Good question. Do you honestly think everyone with money is stupid? Ask your bank. You never see a dime, they didn't even give you money. You got a loan for the house and the money went to the seller directly.

Every fucking lender in the world got a bunch of strings attached to every dollars they never give out. The easiest and most corrupt lender is China. They will lend money to anyone and they lost a bunch of money too. Their stuff never really go anywhere and all they got back was some 99 years lease they might use.

Most of the climate shit is the same too. Everyone makes promises and never give out a dime that worth anything.

[SpringValley]

That's because most people don't care about climate change. The people who claim to care the most, care the least.

[oddwaffle]

Hardly of any relevance. Kicking the can down the road is what everyone is doing. There were people who used to care but now they don't give a fuck with morons splitting the world into "us" vs "them".

Every moron know that's what you get for getting played inside a Game in game theory. The only way out of the hole is to cooperate but with questions like what you are giving then there would never be a cooperation ever.

Everyone hang on to their little patch of dirt and watch the world goes down in flames.

[oddwaffle]

I think it's better to be called "Tragedy of the Commons". You could look it up. It's a thought experiment explaining why people should pay or shouldn't pay for environmental reparations.

[Surely]

Joey said that his son was the smartest man that he knew. So Joe must consider himself really smart. Heard from local coal miners that China is over here paying ridiculous amounts of money for our carbon emitting coal.
The show “Full Measure “ on CBS. Which means it has to be true. Said that China will soon have more coal burning power plants than the rest of the world combined!
Does China have a different atmosphere than the rest of the world? Since Joey thinks that are Great Folks?
Pretty soon the US will need to buy electricity from China!
So yes! We need to help out our good friends!

[SpringValley]

Great news.

[socair]

I have yet to agree with anything that has been said by Biden on behalf of his puppet masters or in the extreme unlikelihood you thought of it himself

Biden I firmly believe was put in office to be used to bring about first the collapse and then the end of the US of A. Consequently I can not imagine anything he says or does not be contributing to that end

[SpringValley]

I agree

[Chazmatazz269]

You don’t understand the world you’re living in. China owns the USA. If they command our debt and withhold resources, the United States of America COLLAPSES in every conceivable way. This is no different than being in over your head with the Mafia. They know you can’t pay so they request a “favor”. Your choice is to pay, complete the favor or die. Contrary to popular belief, the US DOES NOT hold the cards in any game against China. We do as they expect or we die.

[Oigit]

To me it's politics in as usual. Biden, his family and financial backers have probably positioned themselves to directly financially benefit from said reparations. But if you think that they are the only ones and that no one on the right is doing the same, you are a fool.

[SpringValley]

My question is about Biden and this crazy policy.

[pers0n]

The dumbest conspiracy theory in the world is geoengineering which we also admitted to and use to steal even more taxes.

[SpringValley]

Agreed

[pers0n]

As I replied to joeldalton, where you mentioned lithium.. it's such dumbfuck disgusting mind control ignorant fluoride overdosed inability to think for sheepselves, when I see others say "sodium ion batteries can't compete with lithium ion batteries because they're not as energy dense"

Make me boil. Really? A car weighing 2000 kilograms and has 500kg of lithium batteries, would gain 250kgs when switched to sodium batteries because they're 2/3 as energy dense. Really? Does the vehicle give that much shit over a 10% weight gain? Dumb excuses. That's why the company who started selling sodium batteries in US last decade went bankrupt, AND I see tons of people saying they wish they bought some, and others say they bought and are glad they did.
Sodium ion batteries are 2-3 times cheaper to manufacture than lithium per kwh of capacity, they are more predictable in their work, and last for many decades regardless of charge and discharge patterns.

Actually there they are for sale in India and china, but you need 8KG of battery to have one kwh stored, and so shipping is only efficient in huge quantities. And they're impossible to build at home from scratch, even though the materials are simple table salt. I'll be looking into making my own compressed hydrogen as fuel I guess.

[SpringValley]

Interesting options.

[worldscolide]

Why the fuck do we need to pay China. One of the biggest polluters on the planet. Seriously if you look at the US compared to them, they plute way more and are a far worse problem.. Sleepy Joe is just stupid for suggesting this. And I as a tax payer refuse to support his stupidity.

[SpringValley]

The money will go in Xi Jinping's pocket, and no one on the left will question Biden about it.

[worldscolide]

Exactly

[exitseven]

I figured the American people would be fed up with this stuff. Why are their not pitchforks and torches marching up the white House steps.

[SpringValley]

John Fetterman said that Dr. Oz was crazy. That's like a skunk telling you it doesn't like your cologne. I actually love skunks. One winter one moved into my storage shed. I told Maxine to keep her mouth shut, and I'd give her an ice cream sandwich every night. She promised she wouldn't tell the clan.
The next night I had about 20 skunks on my back porch. She lied.
I had to switch to peanut butter sandwiches, because I couldn't afford that much ice cream.

[exitseven]

I was driving home one night and I saw something weird up ahead, It looked like the road was moving. it was really a herd of skunks crossing the street.

[SpringValley]

It's a very rare thing to see skunks. They usually only come out at wee hours of the morning. But when ice cream sandwiches and peanut butter are involved, things change.

But another thing we have a lot of, is wild turkeys. (not the booze)

A herd surrounded my car in a parking lot. They just stared at me with their evil turkey eyes. I found some gummy bears and thought that would make them happy. Nope. They hate gummy bears.
So then I found a package of oatmeal that I had stolen from work the night before. Thank God turkeys love oatmeal.

I hold a second degree white belt in karate, but even at that, I wouldn't be a match for an entire turkey tribe.

[exitseven]

My father used to keep a burlap bag in his car. One day he was driving home and was stuck in traffic. He say a bunch of turkeys walking around on the median strip so he pulled over and got out of the car and went over to the turkeys. He put the burlap bag over one of them and hen he got home he killed it and we had it for dinner that weekend. It really was not very good.

[SpringValley]

If the trains shut down like they're talking about, you better get some burlap bags. How is it even possible that America only had enough baby formula for the illegals?

[Sixgunsound]

Not only will they build more coal plants, but more tanks and warships too. The big guy is only good at one thing, transferring America's wealth to current or former adversaries to purchase their silence, minus his 10%.

[Fireguy17]

doesn't China have more pollution than we have?
Let's try taking care of our own people for once before we just toss money out the window.

[USLegionary]

Pay you less and tax you more. Biden-economics

[FunkyMonkee]

In the first place, fuck no!! There's no such thing as climate change! In the second place, only democrats and Joe supporters should pay since, they're the only ones that believe in that bullshit!

[MendaciousMarxist]

China should just take over the US at this point, their leadership is far better than ours, I love them.

[SpringValley]

One day I went to a large department store and tried to find a gift that said "made in America."
It was for a friend coming to visit. Nothing. Zilch. China makes it all.

[Friendlybro79]

Yeah it's been like that for 30+ years

[MendaciousMarxist]

@Friendlybro79 Might as well finish the job then

[Friendlybro79]

Or just find stuff that's made here and order it online. There needs to be a demand for American made products. They're out there, although maybe not everything we want is made here, there is still plenty. The fact is we would have to be ok with paying more for goods to compensate the higher wages here. Also, American made cars are unfortunately Toyota and Honda as examples. Many of those cars are made by American workers. This example you have to ask yourself which is more important. Buying a foreign brand or the one that actually employs American workers. I don't care about corporate profits more than I care that Americans are working and making a fair wage. So if it's between a Ford made in Australia (no offense to Australians), or a Toyota made in America, I'd be more likely to buy the Toyota. Too many American corporations have bailed on America.

My point is although I do believe a balance of a global market are healthy, Americans do need to do more research and find the companies that are still here and buy from them or from companies that employ American workers on American soil.

One example for clothing is American giant. Everything is made here even the cotton. They make hoodies, zip ups , jackets , jeans etc. It's expensive but really well made stuff. So if you're sitting here complaining about china, do your best to use the internet, and find American made stuff and buy it. It does matter

[Friendlybro79]

Additionally, I know this doesn't solve everything people are worried about here but this is a more controllable way to support how you feel and put it to good use.

[MendaciousMarxist]

@Friendlybro79 The united states never had a good foundation, that's why the companies left. even if the people educated themselves about the products they buy and companies remained doing bussiness domestically, it won't matter. it is only natural for americans to become self hating as there was neve r anything worth loving. Maintaining bussiness internally will only fix the situation temporarily

[Friendlybro79]

Your opinion is your own not everyone's. Your negativity is clearly pointing to there's nothing that can be done. Doing something is better than nothing.

[menina]

I'm not American but I absolutely disagree with him. They shouldn't pay anything because China also contributes to climate change.

[SpringValley]

And they don't even pretend to care about the climate.

[menina]

Honestly I've never seen them caring about it.

[SpringValley]

Nope.

[menina]

"Honestly I've never seen them caring about it." - Forget this comment Lol

No, they don't even pretend. They forget that this planet is also theirs and they're suffering the consequences of climate change.

[SpringValley]

It's just like how they aren't doing anything about the Russian/Ukrainian war. Why should they?

[menina]

Yes, but I guess it's because they're friends with Russia.

[SpringValley]

Very true.

[menina]

It's a big mess that should be solved.

[SpringValley]

But the people who pretend to care, don't care.

[menina]

That's also true.

[BeMuse]

Nope. I think it's about time the central bankers lose all their wealth and pay reparations to us in the west.

[SpringValley]

Someone just told me not to worry about it, because congress won't fund it. That doesn't change the fact that the leader of the free world is a moron.

[BeMuse]

He doesn't lead me. American government works for us. They are bound to their oath to protect and defend the Constitution. When they stray from that and break the law, they lose their legitimacy and rack of criminal charges against themselves.

[Sixgunsound]

You must be new to the real world. Politicians only exist to give us the illusion of choice. all were vetted by Schwab before they were sllowed to become viable candidates.

[BeMuse]

@Sixgunsound Schwab is just a front man. He doesn't control shit. He's meant to distract you from who's really pulling the strings behind the scene in the shadows. That aside, not every politician is on board with the deep state, even if many are. But if you believe that, why are you paying taxes?

[BeMuse]

You know who Klaus Schwab reminds me of in this robery? Lyman Zerga...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWbPznYym4

[Sixgunsound]

Employer steals it before i get it. Im not voluntarily paying anything.

[Sixgunsound]

government thugs torching my house shooting my pets and executing my wife does cone to mind though. Ever heard of Ruby Ridge?

[BeMuse]

@Sixgunsound Well for starters Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Alaska, Nevada, Washington, Wyoming, and South Dakota don’t have state income tax. Are you choosing to live in one of those states or have you choose to build a life in a state that taxes your income? Why did you build your life around working for a company/the government that withholds your taxes for you? If you’re so adamant that the entire system is gamed, why not game it back? Do you think drug dealers have taxes withheld? No, because they are first self-employed and second operate as a cash only business. People that are self-employed are asked to estimate payroll taxes quarterly if they are operating within the law, but you can pay yourself a salary so low that you don’t pay taxes. After all if you run the company you determine your own salary. Your company just has to do something with the reported profits. Cash businesses don’t necessarily report everything to the IRS. Cash just happens to go back into the economy for consumer goods that life requires or into a private safe somewhere... What they report is often offset by expenses and investments that can be depreciated and reduce income taxes to zero.

[BeMuse]

@Sixgunsound You know there are many expenses you can take as a business expense, even when you operate a business out of your home. For example internet and phone expenses, utility expenses, office supplies, electronics, health and dental insurance premiums, mortgage interest, employee entertainment, business meals, car expenses/fuel, travel expenses, education expenses, postage, etc. If you keep your reported income low enough, the federal government actually pays you an earned income tax credit yet you can use your income to pay all sorts of shared expenses between your daily life and your work life. You and wife are both members of your corporation. You talk business over a meal, business expenses. You had to drive your company car to that meeting at a restaurant and use fuel, business expense. You have food in your office refrigerator lounge that you eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner like Twitter with their cafeteria with wine on the roof, business expense. You had to keep the lights on, run your TV/computers, and run your AC for your company to operate every day out of your second bedroom, business expense. As you can see, you can choose to game the system if you want. When life gives you lemons...

[BeMuse]

@Sixgunsound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6iTwVIiMM

[TadCurious]

Biden's an incompetent idiot. I think China should pay reparations for Covid.

[SpringValley]

3 seconds after we discovered Covid in America, the left said it couldn't have come from a lab. Why? Who told them to not use logic? If you questioned the origins of Covid, you lost your Twitter account.

[TadCurious]

True.

[lightbulb27]

I'd need a quote and video to believe he said that. sounds like BS.

[SpringValley]

What's stopping you from finding it?

[lightbulb27]

ok I just read some blurbs, it's not a done deal but he said it. it's more than china, he wants to pass money all over. I don't see how we control how it's spent. If there's something preemptive such as shoring up rivers, building dams and reservoirs... I'm all ears. That should be global funds.
I'll reserve total judgement, but so far I agree very little with him, including this.

[SpringValley]

Let the American taxpayers vote on this, and China won't be getting a dime. Better yet, let Americans donate their own money to China, and the surely won't be getting a dime.

[lightbulb27]

good idea, I agree. but that's now how these people think... they are all about "govt" initiative.
there's not a single thing he can do that will upset the democratic and "left" base. nothing. he's got them locked up... primarily due to fear over climate change. that's reality.

[lightbulb27]

correct, he could order people into the war in ukraine... that might change their minds, maybe.

[exitseven]

@SpringValley when Trump is president again it will be the chinese that pay reparations to the us for covid.

[SpringValley]

I won't hold my breath.

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

I'm a democrat voter and BIDEN is Perfect the GREATEST PRESIDEnT in the WORLD! Don't ask my factual questions because I'm a delusional retard.

[MementoMori777]

The longer he is in office, the worse it will get, he's taking care of any other country but his own

[SpringValley]

On day one he shut down our pipeline with Canada, and gave Putin permission to finish his.

[MementoMori777]

The old man doesn't even know where he stands sometimes smh

[SpringValley]

He's a puppet that reads a teleprompter.

[MementoMori777]

I really don't understand how people didn't see this coming tho

[SpringValley]

People only see what they want to see. As long as he's not Trump, he can destroy the planet.

[MementoMori777]

Trump can talk all the crap he wants but he was helping the country and even tho Trump has said some things I don't agree with, I know he's a good president, meanwhile biden gets his daily dose of children and lacks all his brain cells smh

[SpringValley]

Trump was a great president, and that's why the left hates him.

[MementoMori777]

People are too sensitive, they rather throw away a good president cause he is open about his opinions and swallow all the lies biden says meanwhile he destroys the country, people are blind and easily manipulated

[MementoMori777]

Trump is uncensored truths while biden is a filtered lie

[SpringValley]

I hope the Republicans impeach him a few times.

[MementoMori777]

And soon lol

[disgustingweebtrash]

Rich people and politicians should pay reparations in their blood