Why am I reading everywhere that Patrick Mahones is black?

[lottiebannotie]

He's mixed race I suppose his white mother white wife and almost white children have no say in the matter 🤣

[Wise4myage]

Some people are ignorant.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Because his dad is black.

[lottiebannotie]

So his white mother doesn't count?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. Society in particular white society will never accept him as a white man.

Skin tone is irrelevant as Mahomes facial features and hair texture isn't of white people.

[lottiebannotie]

Americans are bonkers

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It's just how it is socially. Tom Brady is a white dude, not Mahomes.

[lottiebannotie]

I hear you just don't understand it

[lottiebannotie]

So where do Latinos fit in?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Latinos are primarily a mixture of white and mestizos.

My dad is a naturally white blonde latino man while my mom is a mestiza.

In the Latin community black latinos aren't accepted as part of the community neither as being part of the ethnicity or community, they are seen as different and just belonging to the black race.

[lottiebannotie]

Thanks for clarification

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No problem.

[RolandCuthbert]

He is "Black" because he says he is "Black" and "Black" people accept him as being "Black".

You say he is mixed-race, what does that even mean? He is apart of mixed race culture? Try using logic and rational thinking. "Black" people claiming him as being "Black" does not preclude "White" people from claiming him as being "White". It is just a matter of will they ditch racial nonsense to make a cultural claim.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YDLjcOnBWJs

[lottiebannotie]

He was raised by his white mother is married to a white woman I'm just perplexed as to why the USA is so obsessed with race his daughter looks white but I guess she's black also because a quarter of her blood is? Help me understand

[RolandCuthbert]

You are the only one playing around with percentage. No one is "Black" or "White" because of your obsession with percentages. They are "Black" or "White" because of acceptance and identity.

I mean you are in the UK, do you determine Irishness or Scottish heritage based on percentages? The whole idea is absurd. He is "White" only if he can receive acceptance by folks who call themselves "White". The only way to group folks is genetically. And no one pays attention to genetics when it comes to defining their group identity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fllzUQKYLY

[lottiebannotie]

I'm Irish because my parents are and I was born in Ireland not because of my skin colour I would like to know why American people need to identify as Irish American African American Italian American why are you not just American?

[RolandCuthbert]

So you are claiming that "Black" people call Mahomes "Black" based upon his skin color? I posted the video of his father for a reason. Does he and his father have the same skin color?

Does that make sense?

And why do folks in the UK identify as being Irish, Scottish, British, Welsh, etc?

If you can figure that out, then you can figure out how identity works in America. Because outside of the silliness of race, we are the same as every other nation.

[lottiebannotie]

We identify as being English Irish Scottish and Welsh because they are the 4 different countries that make up this nation

[RolandCuthbert]

That's not an answer. If I look at you and a Welshman. . . how can I tell the difference?

That's the point.

Just because you see dark skin does not mean you see "Black" people. Skin color does not determine nationality, ethnicity or cultural identity.

Stop believing what American racists tell you.

Use the same standard for judging people your Irish parents taught you. America is the one anomaly in this world, because this is the birthplace for a concept called "race".

[lottiebannotie]

I already said it's a American problem kindly stop importing it

[RolandCuthbert]

I have no idea of what you are talking about anymore.

You asked why do you keep reading that Patrick Mahomes is "Black". . . and I explain he is "Black" because of culture. . . African-American Culture.

And you have had nothing but a series of brain farts ever since.

But you can understand the cultural differences between Welsh and Irish.

That's messed up.

[lottiebannotie]

It's a real culture versus a made up one

[RolandCuthbert]

No one asks you for advice on what makes for a culture. And if you think African-American Culture is made up, why do you join insane crazed fruitcake racists in assign cultural behaviors and beliefs based on skin color?

Stop faking. Stop lying. Stop being disingenuous.

[lottiebannotie]

I asked the question I didn't state a fact not my fault you can't distinguish the difference

[RolandCuthbert]

You asked a question. And you dislike the answer. That isn't my problem. I only asked you to look at your own experiences for parallels. But you can't do that. You can only se that some "Black" people. .. are different.

It is weird. And it is a disingenuous response.

www.iwm.org.uk/.../what-you-need-to-know-about-the-troubles

The Troubles is a term used to describe a period of conflict in Northern Ireland that lasted about 30 years, from the late 1960s until the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.

However the origins of the Troubles can be traced back hundreds of years. Beginning as early as the 17th century, two groups emerged in Ireland with differing political and religious outlooks.

Catholics predominantly consider themselves Irish and hold nationalist views - they want an independent Ireland free from British control. Protestants identify largely as British and unionist, meaning they wish to remain linked to the United Kingdom.

[lottiebannotie]

I know all about the troubles thanks my family lived through it

[RolandCuthbert]

And what if I refuse to recognize these events and dismiss you, your history and your culture?

Would that be worth anything to you?

[lottiebannotie]

I wouldn't give a shit

[RolandCuthbert]

Likewise.

So when you render assessments about our culture, just know, we don't give a shit.

We know it exists. We lived through lynchings, murders, marches, and sit ins. We have holidays, a unique history, customs and traditions.

And we don't give a shit if a citizen from the UK comes in and renders an assessment that recognizes none of that. We simply will deal with the folks who can reach an understanding with us.

[lottiebannotie]

Yawn change the bloody record

[RolandCuthbert]

I just did.

You don't give a shit about AA Culture.

And I don't give a shit about you. We are agreed.

[lottiebannotie]

Roland I would like to apologize to you I was a bit and damned rude and dismissive of your culture so I apologize

[Anonymous]

His wife and child actually don't. His mother does. Granted racial distinctions are pretty superficial. As the genetic diversity within a race is greater than the diversity between races. Which is not surprising when you consider that race is primarily based on skin tone; and that is primarily determined by the latitude of where your ancestors lived.

[Sixgunsound]

Because st least forthe moment white is a liability in politically correct cancel culture. Only anything non-white matters, even if it's only partially so.

[msc545]

He is sort of sem-black. Also very rich.