Libertarians, whats your view on people saying that the iraq war test experiments disproved libertariaism?

[QuasiaRobinson44]

[BeMuse]

I don't know where you're trying to go with your argument, but it doesn't sound very intelligent on the surface being that libertarians tend to believe that war is justified only in defense and thus they strongly oppose foreign interventions and imperialism. So taking a position that war started by globalists some how disproves libertarianism sounds pretty ridiculous.

[BeMuse]

Libertarians may be for free trade, but they don't want to interfere in people's liberties. In general they are only in favor of limited constitutional government. That means that while they wouldn't agree with a totalitarian government like Saddam Hussein was running, but they also wouldn't agree with a military occupational government or a transitional government of puppets inserted by globalist war hawks that wanted to change the "social values" of a nation to their vision. You know who tries to change "social values"? Socialists... This is why Socialist Globalists like Obama and Clinton continued the war in the Middle East. It was part of their larger Great Reset/New World Order agenda.

[QuasiaRobinson44]

it was then criticized by the left wing liberals so how come obama gets a free pass for it? bush and obama get criticism from me, im fair

[BeMuse]

The left-wing are not Liberals, they are Socialists/Communists. If you think the left-wing (Globalist) opposed the war, then why would they elect Obama who vocally stated he would continue the war in the middle east in the Democrat primaries. Why would they re-elect Obama after he had bombed more nations than any President in US history since WWII? No the Democrats (Left Wing) are the war mongers. This is why they support war in Ukraine today and are pushing for WWIII. You need to wake up. The Classical Liberals, Libertarians, and even the MAGA Republicans are all anti-war/anti-globalist/anti-socialist. This is why an outsider like Trump stopped the wars, didn't start any new wars, and worked on peace talks in the Middle East.

[BeMuse]

Trump went around to all the European nations and told them to take responsibility for their own national security. He told them we are not an imperial power, we are not looking for protectorates, we are looking for allies. What did the left wing do in response? They raged and said he was racist and destroying our relationships with Europe... Why? Because the Democrats (left-wing socialists) want protectorates. They want centralized authoritarian socialist government. They want to rule the world and everything in it. This is why they hate Trump so much, because he was breaking up their plan for global domination. He was splitting the globalist hegemony. He was encouraging nations to be sovereign. He was targeting the central bankers and enacting devolution to remove the administrative state. He was stripping the socialist authoritarians of their power and they fucking hate it.

[QuasiaRobinson44]

I know that there not Liberals. A true liberal would excommunicate themself from theDemocrat Party

[Leopard23]

Huh?

[Pyrofox]

Its all a consequence of wrong time, wrong place.

[Guy13]

More background 🤷🏻‍♂️

[gorydetails]

What do you mean by that?

[Agape93]

That makes no sense