Did You Know Even Trump Thinks It Will Happen?

[msc545]

With a Manhattan grand jury indictment likely but its timing unclear, Donald J. Trump sought to rally supporters to his side, declaring that he would be arrested on Tuesday and calling for protests.

Mr. Trump made the declaration on his site, Truth Social, at 7:26 a. m. on Saturday in a post that ended with, “THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE AND FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON Tuesday OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/trump-indictment-arrest-protests.html

[lightbulb27]

I heard that 20 times and saw it in a chinese newspaper... amazing what is "news".

For paying a side chick to stay quiet so he could run for office... since such things could cost him election.

Honestly, if he was so dumb as to try to pay off a woman to shut up, he clearly didn't understand women, and maybe isn't fit to make decisions regarding women. He could have at least learned that from Clinton... oops... he lied, but never paid the other one off. Donald.. you're FIRED... for being stupid! wake up and smell the coffefeee.

It's just easier to be honest, say he was intoxicated by her boobies at the time, it was a bad call, and we'd all understand.

Good grief women can do a lot of damage, stay away from "those" women.

That said, this is such a waste when his narcissistic and egotistical gifts could be used to solve real world problems. Sad...

As they say, these women.. they can start wars, sink ships, and destroy lives... that's why they feel so good about themselves... POWER!

[FeelingGroovy]

Stormy admitted to lying about the whole thing. When is she going to get arrested?

[lightbulb27]

@FeelingGroovy I never heard that... where, when? I watched one interview with her, she's actually quite sharp. A woman can lie for various of reasons, I seriously doubt it in this case. To be clear when he was married, he had no business being around these women... they know how to manipulate men and in essence, destroy them. A lot of guys are just boob stupid... that makes sense to me.
It's the ultimate political weapon... men need to learn to admit to mistakes, but our society has so long only punished people for truth and awarded lies. We made our own mess...

[FeelingGroovy]

When Pence refused to be behind closed doors with a woman, unless he had a witness, the left said he was stupid.

[msc545]

@FeelingGroovy Lies ae not against the law.

[FeelingGroovy]

Then how did Clinton get impeached?

[lightbulb27]

@FeelingGroovy I didn't hear that either, not sure what is true.
But that "ups" my value in Pence. He's at least more intelligent in that domain.

[FeelingGroovy]

He's smart. We don't know what happened between Trump and Stormy, but he's worth billions, so $130,000 is nothing to him. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything. Did you watch the Kavanaugh hearings? Women said you're guilty until proven innocent. They said Kavanaugh was guilty of rape, because he drank some punch at a party. Wow! The idiot Dems located his high school yearbook. That proved he was a rapist, because he liked beer. Holy shit! What high school guy likes beer? This is how low these people will go.

[lightbulb27]

@FeelingGroovy yes, it's all about political assassination. It could be a true memory wrong guy, true memory same guy, or false memory. But they will attack as long as it's the other side.
Did "mrs stormy" admit she lied... no way. Trump still be a better President imho than current guy. Just realize, trump won't admit anything... it's how they are trained, so it's left to evidence and there appears to be some. I haven't looked at it, waste of my time...

[goaded]

Does anyone else remember when the Republican party claimed to be the party of law and order?

The fact of the crime has been proven, Cohen went to prison because of it. Trump was obviously the "unindicted co-conspritor" ("Individual 1") in that crime.

This should all have happened on Jan 21 2021.

[Emiliamazing]

This seems like a self fulfilling prophecy. Regardless, of which side of the aisle you sit on, Donald Trump has exhibited this behavior his entire professional and political life. Hopefully we don't have more societal outrage and damage to private and public property.
It is my hope that neither side will use this occurrence as a means to cause further divisive behavior within our country.

[Agagagagaga]

Honey. We got here because one side used his occurrence as a means to cause further divisive behavior within our country.

If you think that man has EVER been treated fairly then you haven’t been paying attention.

The country is hopelessly divided. There will be more violence. Probably against Trump voters, because God knows when people see a red hat they just start swinging. 🙄

[Emiliamazing]

@Agagagagaga I don't disagree, the maturity level in this country is pathetic.
No need to show up and start calling shots before they occur.

[exitseven]

this country has turned into a totalitarian state. When the president can get his own KGB to put his political adversaries in jail we have already reached the point of no return,

[goaded]

@exitseven Or, you know, presidents could try not breaking the law. This is the case where his lawyer was already found guilty of making the illegal payoff, the person who told him to, gave him the money, and lied about what the money was for is equally guilty. Guess who that was.

[exitseven]

@Agagagagaga They only swing if the MAGA hat wearer is a woman or an elderly person. Anyone that can fight back always gets a good leavin alone.

[Agagagagaga]

@goaded Because we all know Democrats are pure as the driven snow 😂

You spectacular idiot. THEY ARE POLITICIANS. 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga So? If they commit crimes they should be held responsible. You seem to think that nobody should, no matter how big or numerous the crimes.

[Anonymous]

The story on the news here is wants another riot.

[msc545]

He will get one.

[Anonymous]

It’s ironic that for all his “lock her up” chants, he’ll be the one taking the perp walk. Then he’ll get to do it all over again in Georgia and then again for the feds. Whether you believe these prosecutions are politically motivated or not, you can’t deny that he’s stupidly given them the ammunition to do it. If you’re gonna drain the swamp, you can’t be a swamp creature yourself.

[FeelingGroovy]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z6Oczyk6nCw

Ever notice that stupid people are too stupid to realize they're stupid? Did any of these clowns admit to being wrong?

[exitseven]

yes, Trump heard it from somebody that leaked it. He is the leading Republican candidate and is ahead in most of the current polls. The odds are really good that he will return to the white house in 2024 unless the democrats can somehow stop him. Lets face it, after the predawn raid on his house there is nothing they won't try.

[msc545]

Nobody is voting for him and anyway he will be too busy trying to avoid prison.

[exitseven]

The latest poll has him way ahead of DeSantis and he beats Biden by 5 points. These polls are run by Hanvard university and ABC news. Two liberal organizations so it must have galled than to have to report it.

[msc545]

Do you have links to these polls?

[exitseven]

thehill.com/.../

this was before his visit to Ohio. i think the numbers would be even better if they waited a week,

[msc545]

"The Hill" is a republican source that is not reputable. Do you have any results from real polling?

[exitseven]

they are quoting a Harvard poll. It was the only link i could find.. The rest have been scrubbed.

[msc545]

How can you tell that anything was "scrubbed" ?

[exitseven]

It was a real poll and you cannot find it anywhere on the web except on that link I sent you. I guess the algorithm missed it. There was an ABC news poll that came out a couple of days later that had similar results. i csnnot find it anywhere.

[msc545]

I see. undoubtedly censored by evil Democrats?

[goaded]

A March Quinnipiac University poll shows President Biden holding a four-point advantage over Trump in hypothetical 2024 general election matchup. https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3869

" In a hypothetical general election matchup for president, President Joe Biden has a slight lead over Trump 49 - 45 percent among all registered voters.

When Biden is matched up against DeSantis, it is a virtual dead heat. In that matchup, Biden receives 47 percent and DeSantis receives 46 percent among all registered voters."

Putting Trump in prison would be doing Republicans a political favour. Him winning the primary or, even better, running third party would be a gift to the Democratic party's chances in 2024.

[exitseven]

@goaded A nationwide Emerson college poll has Trump ahead of Biden by 4 points. Oddly enough he us heed as the Democratic nominee as well.
emersoncollegepolling.com/.../

[Cathy7734]

Bill Clinton did the same thing and he got away with it.

[msc545]

Clinton certainly did NOT do the same things.

[gorydetails]

We’re all aware that dictators arresting their political opponents is standard operating procedure.

[goaded]

Fortunately Trump didn't have a chance, having failed to steal the presidency in 2021.

[gorydetails]

@goaded you’re correct. Biden successfully stole it.

[goaded]

Nope. Dope.

[Anonymous]

Yeah they kill him them move on to the BCS
Fresh slate in '24

[FilmGuy93]

Tough to blame him. He's been the target of several multi-years-long witch hunts.

I will say though. Him calling for rallies and protests was the single worst thing he could have done.

[goaded]

And yet he surrounded himself with people who got convicted of real crimes because of those "witch hunts", and the only reason he wasn't charged with obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe was that he was president at the time, and his acquittals in the impeachments were Republicans refusing to allow it.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded No, the reason he wasn't charged with obstruction of justice is because you can't obstruct justice unless you are found to have committed crime. As for the impeachments; the first one... that might be true. But he was accused of the second impeachment because he wasn't in office at the time of the alleged offense.

[goaded]

It's simply not true that there has to be an underlying crime, let alone the person doing the obstruction is suspected of it. You can be convicted of obstruction of justice if you've impeded an investigation, even if it finally decides there was no crime committed.

There were 10 separate cases of potential obstruction of justice listed in Mueller's report.

In the second impeachment result, that was simply a cover for voting against impeachment. 57 senators voted to impeach.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded If impeachment was an actual, legal investigation, you might have a point. But it isn't. Stick to commenting on political situations you know something about.

[goaded]

The Mueller investigation was "an actual, legal investigation" by a special counsel. Maybe you should check your facts and the law.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded you’d think with everything that has happened, that you would start to realize that your perception of the situation is off

[goaded]

Funny, I was thinking the same of you. The difference is that I'm working off actual evidence, court filings, etc., you're working off what liars tell you.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded you're definitely working off of actual court filings; I'll grant you that. But the real difference between us is that everything I've said in our various conversations has come to pass. You gotta know when to throw in the towel, bud.

[goaded]

I know when to throw in the towel, it's when I'm losing. I'm not.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded Okay, so let's make a deal. If Trump goes down, I'll write a mytake explaining all the ways I was misled and had the wool pulled over my eyes; and I'll even shout you out on the post and admit you tried to tell me. If Trump walks; you write the same and shout me out.

[goaded]

Which crime are we talking about? The obstruction of justice in the Mueller report? The porn star payoff? The interference with state election officials doing their jobs? The fake slates of electors? The knowingly sending an armed mob to the Capitol? The dereliction of duty in not stopping the Jan 6 attack, as everyone knew he could with a tweet? The stealing of government documents? The obstruction of justice in not returning those documents? The mishandling of classified documents including having a staffer almost certainly without security clearance copy and upload to the cloud classified documents?

That's not even considering the whole employing his family in the White House. That includes Jared Kushner, who shouldn't have had security clearance and is now receiving income from $2b (billion, with a B) of "investment" by the Saudis in his brand new "investment company". Ivanka, who magically got 40+ trademarks in China, and so on.

[msc545]

Considering how ill he is, his behavior was almost certain to follow, and it did. Criminal behavior.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded Take your pick! What's the thing that you feel most strongly that he will held accountable for?

[goaded]

The problem is that it's not what he should be held accountable for, it's what he will be.

Which crime do you think he'll skate on? I named about 8, but that includes the Mueller report's 10 cases of obstruction. You suggested the deal, I asked for clarification.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded I want to go with which ever one you think has the strongest evidence. So the rules are; it has to be an on-going thing where Trump's guilt is still in the process of being determined by a court of law, and among those controversies, pick whichever one you think has the worst outlook for Trump.

[goaded]

Really, you should be willing to accept defeat if he's convicted of any, not me if he's acquitted of one. He'd still be a convicted criminal, but I'll play.

The porn star payoff has already been proven, Trump is the unindicted co-conspiritor of the lawyer that was convicted. On the other hand, there are recordings of a couple of phone calls of Trump interfering with state election officials. The fake slates of electors are hard to dispute, since they signed them; perhaps one of them would be willing to testify against Trump. Everybody knows he incited the armed attack on the Capitol to illegally stay in power.

Probably the stealing, hiding, copying, and otherwise mishandling of government documents is the most watertight of all of them.

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded So we have an agreement then for the mishandling of government documents?

[goaded]

Well, none of them have got to court yet, and you're biasing the agreement in your direction since you're really claiming he hasn't done any of those things but trying to make me choose just one to hang my hat on.

How about we just have the agreement for each crime he's indicted for, when that finally happens?

One other thing: if an acquittal is a result of jury nullification (one or two rabid Trump supporters refusing to accept the evidence and convict), it doesn't count.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Jury_nullification_in_the_United_States

[FilmGuy93]

@goaded I wanted to think that one over. That sounds fair

[goaded]

Deal, then!