I ask this because someone said he likes Russian people, but he doesn't like Putin. Some guy from another country jumped his shit and said that he has no right to hate Putin, because Americans started wars. I don't' know about you, but I've never once started a war.
Sure, just like we have the right to hate the treasonous CCP-owned scum in the US government that is sending untold sums of money to who-knows-where-ultimately instead of spending it on the US citizens and permanent residents they keep screwing over with their treasonous policies. And the rest of NATO, as usual, is hardly contributing anything. I guess their politicians aren't as savvy as ours about getting kickbacks from Zelensky and his corrupt minions.
NATO is worthless.
I'm 90% sure that Ukraine isn't part of NATO, so I did multiple Google searches on that today. I came up empty handed. Why do you suppose that is?
Ukraine getting into NATO, now, reminds me of this analogy...
You buy a new car and don't have insurance. Then you crash your car into the side of a brick wall, and then try and buy insurance to fix your car. You're right, this war is nothing but a money laundering scheme.
NATO rejected Ukraine because even by NATO standards it is too corrupt, which is saying something!
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And we spent 160 billion on a non-NATO country? So why should America even be in NATO?
I think the Russia/Ukraine war is nothing but a money laundering scheme.
America needs to just get out, and unless we get a sane president, that won't happen.
The military industrial complex bankruptcy and killed off a lot of young Roman's to enrich itself by the blood of poor people. Yet the current crop of politicians learned nothing.
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True.
The person who "jumped in" failed logic. One can despise Putin and love the Russian people, just like someone can despise George W. Bush while loving Americans.
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Of course- not hating American leaders who start wars would simply be hypocritical; war ALWAYS leads to the death and suffering of innocents. My brother, who turned 18 in 2002 and thus was VERY concerned about the way things were going in Iraq, put it to me this way:
"Saddam is a monster, no question, but they wouldn't be forcing me to kill Saddam; they'd be forcing me to kill Wakkaz and Faisal and Ali- regular, everyday Iraqi guys not so different from me. Oh, they speak a different language, can't seem to grow a beard to save their lives, and call God by a different name, but it's the same God! The only crime these guys are guilty of is being born in the wrong country and forced to fight in the army- which is exactly what the government is trying to do to ME. How can it be wrong for me to resist that, and wrong for them to NOT resist it? But not Saddam- no, he gets lawyers and reporters and a fair trial. But the average Iraqi gets gunned down or blown up in the street, and everyone says that's fine. Only the monsters are protected."
Mark Twain famous "War Prayer" explained this very succinctly.
He also said that Americans have no right criticizing other governments.
When and where did he say that?
The question about do you hate Russians?
Um, Mark Twain isn't on this site.
Um, next time don't use a pronoun.
I didn't- I used his name.
When and where did he say that?
Yes, in response to your comment of "The question about do you hate Russians?". Conversations work through context, not through a return to absolute abstraction.
No offense but I prefer to talk to people who can stay focused on my question and not go off on a tangent.
Why would I hate a guy that is putting a smack down on old school Nazis and the deep state in Ukraine? I don’t see Putin as my friend, but we have common enemies so if he wants to get the job done in Ukraine and remove the puppet government who was committing genocide against Ukrainians as promoted by Victoria Nuland (D) who installed the puppet government in that country under the direction of Barack Obama (D) who was financed by George Soros (D) to plot a proxy war against Russia to instigate WWIII, then by all means have at it. He’s doing good work. Some innocent people may die… That’s war. But long it saves a lot of lives by removing the real threat to humanity from Ukraine.
That's not the point. The point is you're not allowed to dislike Putin regardless of what he's doing.
I can like or not like anyone I want. No one decides that for me but myself. That said, the propaganda message pushed by the media and deep state in the USA is to hate Putin and that Russia is evil, that's why we need to print the USD into nonexistence and send our money to a foreign country run by Nazis to be laundered through crypto coin exchanges so that Democrats can steal aid money from the USA and line their pockets to by water front property. They aren't getting the public opinion they want though. People see through their bullshit and can't wait for Ukraine to be destroyed so that the deep state loses ways to hurt America.
I love how climate hucksters are laundering tax money to buy SEA LEVEL properties and their idiot voters say "this is fine".
this is how "war" gets so screwed up.
Yes, likely truth on both sides... each has their views. Plenty evidence his troops aren't being "saviors", there's lots of evidence they are ruthless.
War is just a sad way of saying... we can no longer communicate well, so it's ok to kill each other, until we decide to communicate again.
War turns men into monsters... all those scary books we read as kid, are in essence... true.
Trump offered to negotiate a peace deal six months ago. Joe didn't want that.
Yep, the "other side" is thinking differently about this issue, you can see it out here if you engage with them. I'd be curious if they'd even accept Jimmy Carter, in his prime, negotiating. I doubt it.
Jimmy would be a step up from the idiot we have now. I just turned the news on, and saw that there were three kids killed in a shooting in Nashville. Biden came on stage and acted like a lame standup comedian. He laughed and joked. Biden is an actual sociopath. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself.
I didn't see that in what was edited, they probably cleaned it up fast.
Absolutely. I'm tired of the debate that some people have over "who's worse" between the Diet Soviet Union and Communist TikTok China. How about their both equally shitty regimes with equally shitty leaders? Debate solved. Also going on right now, the Diet Soviet Union and Communist TikTok China are getting closer, Iran and Saudi Arabia are getting closer, and we have Brandon Falls. How incredibly marvelous for us.
The shit is going to hit the fan very soon.
Oddly enough, I actually got to see what happens when real shit hits a real running fan while at work once. It wasn't a good scene.
Nah. I hate Ukraine and Ukrainians now. Everyone should. They refuse to have peace negotiations while taking more and more money from Americans to fight a war they can’t win—to the point that Zelensky said that American sons and daughters would have to fight in Ukraine... and die, for Ukraine.
Fuck that. And fuck Ukraine. Fight your own wars. And if you can’t? Have peace negotiations.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Biden re-enacted the draft.
This is a perfect way for him to get rid of a lot of Americans. Open borders in fentanyl are doing a pretty good job of that.
Biden doesn't want to negotiate for peace, and I don't think Zelenkyy or Putin want peace either.
It would be wiser for them to hate Biden for heats up the war on the pretext of aid and causing more Ukrainians to die.
You're absolutely right. Biden very much wants this war, and he doesn't care how many people die in the process.
Americans should have the right to hate Joe Biden for causing the war where everything between Russia and Ukraine was fine and he forced Ukraine into NATO which caused Russia to invade Ukraine followed by massive inflation
There's no doubt that Biden wants this war.
100% It's obvious that those countries have dirt on Biden.
Nope, we can't hate him, we also killed innocent civilians
But I hate ukraine, we have sent them BILLIONS$$$$ And yet keep coming back for more billions and also struggling to beat russia
Where are all the billions we sent them?
I heard that the Ukrainian oligarchs were stealing the money and going on lavish vacations and even building swimming pools in her backyard
Bombing hospitals and school buildings is not fighting a war. It is butchering civilians.
That's what sane people think.
America doesn’t usually start them, they just finish them but I’ve never started a war either personally
I don't agree, but I respect your opinion.
Everyone has the right to hate or love anyone else. It doesn't matter whom you are or what your government did or didn't do.
I agree with you 100%, but this guy was just an idiot.
You can hate what Putin is doing and also hate some of our sins as well.
This guy said that we had to fix our sins before we can hate the sins of others. So maybe we should get our 160 billion back from Ukraine, and work on our sins.
Why can’t we help the Ukraine and still work on our own sins?
I hate all wrong doing equally. There’s been a lot of wrong on all sides and it’s getting worst.
Right now I believe it's the worst it's ever been in history. The next war will be the last.
We have the right to hate anyone this includes our own president
Absolutely.
Oh except the government of Israel for some reason the government is kinda anal about that
You mean the American government?
Yeah a few years ago when some hurricanes struck they made people sigh a waiver to get aid and within the paper work was something about not supporting a organization that didn't like how the Israel government ran things or something like that I'd have to look it up to find more details
For the record they weren't anti semitic they just didn't approve of how the Israel government ran things and killed some civilians
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41688999
Found a link relating to it
Interesting.
Да, comrade, although hate that fucking arsehole not (ich hasse niemanden), I loathe his screwed diabolical deeds. Wish the Reaper would knock on his door soon. I hate not those who hate me. I love those who love me unexclusively.
Everyone should have the right to their own opinion
I agree with you 100%, but this guy was just an idiot.
Anyone with a conscience will hate Putin. The man is absolutely disgusting.
He said Americans shouldn't be allowed to criticize any other government because our government is less than perfect.
Screw that p. o. s.
Of course. Putin is making the decision to slaughter innocent people. I am not.
We all get to feel however we want about whoever we want. This person can say whatever he wants. That doesn't mean he's right.
He's not right and he's an idiot.
I hated Putin long before this shit happened.
“HATE” is a strong word, I think Americans disapprove of what Putin is doing, especially because of all the women and children being killed.
According to this guy you don't have the right to say that.
He's not.
The American government kills more innocent people (and children) than putin, but you just don’t hear about it because American media is bias.
And other countries are welcome to hate our American government.
Most other countries do and smart America's do as well.
I agree with that.
Putin has no regard for human life. I don't hate him but he needs to be stopped.
I'm sure this guy would say you have no right to want him stopped.
It just seems so illogical what this guy said.
Yes.
I agree.
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