Do you get point to stop ukraine's war now?

[ibodi]

I think that should Europe propose instead of China and that mean give up attitude of confrontation. So that should be cultural thing that Europe has to find out by themselves.

Like european take ukraine as european uterus Russia want honor their culture back that is not wrong. Ukrainian was sleeping indeed russian want recalling it.

[devilish-cutie]

i dont get what you wrote, i assume your English isn't best... but from what i could gather, if EU takes Ukraine it will be WW3 and noone wants that

[strateguy632]

not mean e. u. take it, but e. u. say they should "give up" and stop weapon aid

[ibodi]

It is like what communism said that is a mark and that is relative to fascism. sometimes I feel USA's thought is like communism too. Maybe that because communism is on theory but USA is like that. That is because the theory correct. I dont know specifical events between it but you may not know what happen in your own culture. when become concept that may be late. social philosophy find people dont have knowledge on society too. maybe other are tool in capitalism, they are getting to disappear as pinkfloyd the wall into Plato's Cave. So if Europe instead of EU get involved to it without fighting I think that will not be WW3 or russia can be a part of EU too if you need to deal with law daily.

[devilish-cutie]

@strateguy632 im still unsure what you talk about but of course the goal is for ukraine to tire russia without escalating.

@ibodi dont think Russia would want to be part of EU, Russia is thretaned by EU and that is one of the reasons it wants ukraine, but they also want their own rule
I dont understan how "Europe" can get involved and not EU, Europe is a continent, EU is political alliance

[ibodi]

Basically I dont know either but think the culture between russia and Europe closer than my understanding but for theory against fascist not untrue concept to trap reality. communism have reason on their theory and that is european theory. but from orient buddhism that everything from dark. maybe history is not a line from experience. It is like if you face mirror and start smile then the image in the mirror start smile to you. Maybe that is extend the olive branch in western. what I learn from EU law side that try to solve law conflict between their law, that is interesting would fall into strange logic.

[ibodi]

by the way I just sovle Jesus gamble problem why is jesus sayint that is wrong chinese are also like shit on Human Development Index because that is final goodness/bonum. although that give happy but like chinese drink and eat too much in their culture they would get gout. So you can see another culture on elder they would tell youngers.

[strateguy632]

Ukraine must not surrender

[strateguy632]

Ukraine successfully defended its capital and other cities

[strateguy632]

i found translation of song, if so only war defend but russia should not send soldiers into danger to take/take back land.

[ibodi]

I dont meant that they should surrender until lose. It is like they should surrender when propaganda win to stop war and think about their history without war. Although look down itself's culture is normal. not only them happen china happen too but I know USA may be good but not suit for me They will go back to their culture to review it. It was just ukrainians who have not reached the level so envy other culture.