Do Trumpers support the rule of law or not?

[OddBeMe]

They doxxed the Atlanta Grand Jury who indicted Trump to sway them. Fck inflation or gas prices. This is how countries fall.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/grand-jurors-dox-trump-indictment-b2393831.html

No they do not care

Yes they do.

[goaded]

What do we hear from Republican leadership about this sort of thing? Crickets.

They obviously know that Trump would be a disaster for the party in 2024 (53 percent of all voters stated that they definitely wouldn't vote for Trump in the next presidential election, while an additional 11 percent indicated that they probably wouldn't support his campaign), but they're too chickensh! t to say anything because they need his supporters.

[exitseven]

@goaded If everyone is so sure that Trump will lose then why are they pulling out all the stops to prevent him from running? He is ahead in all the polls and getting stronger. Even Obama warned Biden not to underestimate the strength of his support.

[goaded]

@exitseven Because he committed crimes and should stand trial. Note I was talking about Republican "leaders" hoping for him to be put in prison so they don't have him as a candidate and can baselessly blame the Democrats. (He's not ahead in the polls, by the way: www.realclearpolitics.com/.../...s-biden-7383.html )

[goaded]

Oh, and Trump's the one delaying the trials; if he's so innocent why isn't he rushing to prove it?

[exitseven]

The trials were conveniently timed to coincide with the Iowa caucus and other events that would be important to a presidential candidate. The democrats are rigging the election. Trials should be pushed back until after the election to insure we have a fair election and the public will be free to elect the candidate of their choice. That used to be the American way. It just makes you wonder just what are the Bidens afraid of?

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven he could've cooperated. But don’t blame the courts when a criminal commits crime.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe Why should he make it easy for them? All they want to do is get Biden re=elected.

[slatyb]

They only support the rule of law when it's being applied to others. Any laws that restrict their freedom are deemed illegitimate.

[Anonymous]

Making up inflammatory things that sound bad and presenting them as facts does not advance your argument that "Trumpers" don't support the rule of law.

[slatyb]

Trump has openly suggested that the Constitution should be suspended.

[Anonymous]

Laws are subjective. They don't apply to say the son of a sitting president

[Stoner710]

you shouldn't docs anybody regardless if it's for Biden or Trump. We should have that standard at least. fellow Republicans don't be doxxing people that's not cool. It's not going to lied to me about it for Biden

High inflation is how countries fall,

[goaded]

You know it's back down to 3% in the US, right? It's also been twice has high as its recent peak in the 1980s.

No, disrespect for the rule of law and the use of it as a weapon against "the undesirables" is how fascism works and countries fall.

[Stoner710]

@goaded oh it back down to 3% when for decades it was at 2% the reality is it should be at 0% inflation just hurts your average worker. For example a $10 bill back in the 1970s is roughly worth $78 now. Inflation depletes your saving so you have to work harder for less than you did in 1970. That’s also when the complete fucking moron Richard Nixon decided to take us off the gold standard so now we are relying on modern monetary theory which is complete bullshit which is if you print more money the more money is in circulation. That doesn’t account for the supply and demand part of economics. If you have to many dollars chasing to few good you get inflation. Need to go back to the gold standard and not find my money than we have a gold. The only reason why our money is worth anything now is because we agree that it’s for something what happens when people stop agreeing that the US dollar is not worth as much as it was or is worth nothing? We end up looking like Greece, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe. Why do you think there’s no one alliance between Brazil, Saudi Arabia, and China, and a few other nations that are creating a new world currency backed by gold

[goaded]

Mostly inflation hurts people with savings. Most "average workers" don't have the ability to pay an unexpected $500 expense. They'd be best helped by raising the federal minimum wage, which hasn't been changed for something like 14 years (or was it since 2014?).

[Stoner710]

@goaded actually that would just hurt the average worker. If you have to pay people more someone has to pay that bill. So who pays it? The consumer of course which is your average workers. Which leads to more inflation because your dollar isn’t worth as much as it use to be, the more dollars in the market the higher inflation. He goes back to basics supply and demand the more supply of US dollars you have the life of a demand there is for the U. S dollar

[goaded]

You're assuming that wages are a large part of the costs of production. Paying someone, say, $50 an hour to produce something in that hour that you can sell for $1000 means that paying them double, even if you'd pass on the full cost, would mean a 5% increase in price.

A more realistic example is the price of a Big Mac: "Customers in cities where the minimum hourly wage is $14 or more pay 26% more for a Big Mac, and 30% more for a Cheeseburger, than they do in states at the federal hourly wage level of $7.25." www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/.../why-big-mac-costs-more-seattle-austin

So, increasing the minimum wage by nearly 100% increases prices by less than 30%. And people on minimum wage have twice as much money to spend.

[Anonymous]

You know what will happen if democrats do this right? Either Democrats in Washington will demonstrate anther double-standard further undermining the credibility of their goverment. Or all future Federal democrats will also go to jail on charges for their own "abuses" while in office.

Abusing the legal system to persecute your political opposition is a slide not a slippery slope to despotism and collapse in a country like these united states.

[OddBeMe]

I’ll ask again, are anyone deemed political enemies above the law just because of the PR?

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme
I think its transparently obvious Trump did nothing legitimately illegal. All of theses political trial are designed as excuses to spy on and persecute Trump to give Democrats a political advantage. Of a man they find unpredictable and don't understand.

That is extremely underhanded and the precedent it sets will result in very dire consequences for the Republic, as any and all future administrations will be able to point to this as an excuse to do the same in maintaining the same advantage over all other rivals.

It is unlikely with such an advantage that the republic will survive. So while you may claim its simply a matter of of everyone being under the law, the reality is those currently in power are VERY much above that law just as they are in control of what it is and whether or not it gets enforced at all.

So the real question is Equal application and justice under the law which unfortunately no longer exist among the federal goverment and even many states.

There is a cost to this kind of abusive behavior and it is indeed very high.

[Snakeyes7]

Yes it is bad but to be honest, the left did this shit way too often to people who spoke against them I don't really feel all that bad that this happened.

I don't know what went on with that trial but if the court blatantly violated Trump's rights then I would say it understand without condoning.

[OddBeMe]

Sorry when did we try to overturn an election?

[Snakeyes7]

By your definition, the 2000, 2004 and 2016 (does "Russian collusion" ring a bell?) elections.

[OddBeMe]

The Russian collision was proven as a dozen Trump cronies went to jail.

[Snakeyes7]

Then what was the meuller report?

[jshm2]

It's almost like they've seen a Netflix mockumentary of Hitlers rise to power, and thought "Hold my Budweiser lite"

[exitseven]

Yes they do but it is funny how the democrats don't like it when they get harassed. Well, they need to get used to it because the gloves are coming off.

[OddBeMe]

Ooh, good. What do you have? Not more hunter shit I hope.
https://youtu.be/DoYBaxxd_C4

[Dargil]

Do Democrats support the rule of law or not. Examples, the DOJ and FBI.

[OddBeMe]

Examples…convictions of republicans for colluding with Russia and quad-indicted primary candidate still leading Republican polls.

[Juxtapose]

The people doing these indictments don't even have the authority to do so and are being major cunts. Fuck them.

[slatyb]

LOL. Lock him up! Lock him up!

[Juxtapose]

Even if there is a conviction it is going to be thrown out. You guys chanting for this have no idea of how weak these cases are against him.

[Juxtapose]

But nice job going after your top political rival like some a typical dictator 🤷

[OddBeMe]

Why don’t they have authority?

[Juxtapose]

Wrong state, special console using legal standards not meant for this, publishing information before it's appropriate in such a way that shows that they are premeditating the outcome, etc.

[Juxtapose]

They're just throwing anything they can and hoping something sticks. If he gets convicted it's going to the Supreme Court but the Democrats are hoping they can slow down his campaign efforts and sabotage Trump.

[Juxtapose]

@gorydetails come tell him here how they lied about the whole Russia thing for so long.

[OddBeMe]

Oh no, we already sent people to jail for it. It’s a factual crime that occurred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iry-Yxg5Sc0

[slatyb]

"A typical dictator" -- that's certainly his ambition. He wanted to invoke the Insurrection Act after he lost in 2020. "It's going to be thrown out" -- by whom?

[Juxtapose]

There was no Russian collision.

www.americanbar.org/.../

[OddBeMe]

Funny how you like news stories that correspond to your narrative. Just not ones that go against it. Like this one: www.politico.eu/.../

As the video shows many went to jail after Mueller gave up for accepting Russian money, sharing polling data, being an undeclared foreign advisor.

Did they not go to prison?

[Juxtapose]

Politico is an unreliable source that has a left-leaning bias in my opinion.

They probably accepted plea deals if they confess to anything because the alternative was so much worse. The whole Russia collusion thing was fraudulent all around though and funded by Hillary Clinton and the dance. And then meanwhile she does all kinds of heinous shit to cover up her tracks and suffers no consequences, this is clearly a two-tiered justice system.

[OddBeMe]

Again l love how you link to shit like Bar Association commentary but completely wave off entire platforms you don’t like. Lol

[Juxtapose]

Don't pretend you didn't do the same to organizations like project veritas when it was headed by James O'Keefe.

I have solid reason not to trust Politico, CNN, Msnbc, Fox News, NPR, ABC News, The Young Turks, etc etc.

[OddBeMe]

I read the articles or watch the content. But the sources matter. Which I’ve been arguing with you about. Accredited news agencies have journalists sworn to ethics of good sources and corroboration.

Bad players, like Project Veritas and Newsmax has proven itself to be every time by editing or publishing false data, or lying sources. Like Guiliani and his drunk witness on voter fraud. Hilarious and fckin sad.

[Juxtapose]

"Accredited news agencies have journalists sworn to ethics of good sources and corroboration."

I have never been a man of faith Odd. That statement may as well be just as ridiculous as saying Jesus rose from the dead.

[QuietRunner]

I guess they are just using the same tactics as the Democrats