What do real people really think of the sad stereotypes of "masculine" and "feminine", I thought we already outgrew this crap a few decades ago?

[HighlyQuestionable]

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Still obsessed with duality?
People, c'mon
Seriously c'mon.

[NamerOfStars]

Um, you don't "outgrow" biological realities of gender, any more than you "outgrow" needing citrus fruit because your body produces its own vitamin C.

It's not about being "obsessed with duality", it's a matter of accepting clearly visible reality- or not dying of scurvy.

[HighlyQuestionable]

You misunderstand, I am not talking about biological differences.

[jogeb907433]

Stereotypes are still in force, even feminists and progressives continue to prefer masculine men and beta providers. I am free from that, I don't mind complying with stereotypes nor do I care about women's opinions on masculinity.

[HighlyQuestionable]

If they prefer "masculine" men, then they aren't feminists.

Wait.. what are "beta providers"?

[jogeb907433]

One thing is what they say and another thing is what they do.

[WhitneySnow]

I think in general you’re right. Your gender does not determine your personality and vice versa.

[HighlyQuestionable]

Whitney, you're opinions are a breath of fresh air.

[WhitneySnow]

You’re welcome lol

[HighlyQuestionable]

"your" (seems like the longer I am online... the worse my grammar)

[Anonymous]

We are just made different and what part of that is hard to understand?

[HighlyQuestionable]

"anonymous" please elaborate.
I realize the biological differences between genders/sexes.
But no others.

[Lliam]

It's obvious that your opinions on gender are highly evolved and extremely woke. You are superior. 🙃🥴🤣
Wave your freak flag high, fruitcup.

[HighlyQuestionable]

I am not arguing with the idea of biological differences. This is not "woke" politics. What I am referring to is something altogether different.

[Lliam]

That's cool. Then why refer to gender and not simply sexual preferences or proclivities? LGBQI, etc. are not genders. The only ones who are trying to bend genders are trans activists who are trying to convince people that men can be women and women can be men. "Transgender" isn't any more real than trans-species/genus/family/order/class/phylum/kingdom. You can't be a horse or a cat except in your imagination.

I have no problem with "adults" doing whatever they want to do to themselves or with other consenting adults. But I'm not buying the multiple gender argument. Humans are a binary species.

"Transgenderism" is endangering and harming women and children in particular and society in general. That's a fact, not a bigoted opinion.

[HighlyQuestionable]

First of all, so many here are missing my point. Secondly, yes, genders/sexes CAN be changed. What I am trying to say (can someone explain this to him) is that social systems should be deleted as they relate to gender/sex ROLES!

The times of associating characteristic to genders is as OVER as associating social characteristics to races. For example: associating "toughness or "Macho" with men is a simple and irrelevent chestnut that needs to be well..."Deleted".

What I am arguing has NOTHING to do with the transgender debate.

[Lliam]

Are you saying that David Bowie, Annie Lenox, Boy George and Marilyn Manson were brand new genders and not male of female? Just because they put on androgynous performances?

[HighlyQuestionable]

No, once again, I am not arguing about Gender, Sex, or anything biological. I am arguing about assigning behavior or role based characteristic to genders. I mean the concepts of socially defined masculinity, femineity. Not the genders or sexes themselves as biological fact.

I am making myself even vaguely clear?

[Lliam]

Finally. Now I see what you're driving at.
I pretty much agree with you. Kids should be allowed to be kids. It's probably unhealthy to force them into stereotypical roles. They'll experiment, play, imagine, and do what comes naturally.

Many girls like to be tom boys. That doesn't mean they are lesbian. And boys may sometimes play with girly stuff like dolls. That doesn't mean that they are gay. They are just being kids. For example, I would sometimes play dolls with my sister but I was still very much a boy.

I don't think they should be coerced one way or the other.

That's why I am strongly opposed to Drag Queen Story Hour and attempts to sexualize children and make them question their genders before they even know what gender means.

[HighlyQuestionable]

(shakes head) You're getting closer, at least.

Now try entertaining the same idea... but with "EVERYONE" not just kids.

I don't know about "drag queen story hour" the locals are so (jesus) freakin' conservative they'd probably go after any drag queen they saw with torches and pitchforks. When we were kids and saw FI on TV it was like a joke.

[Lliam]

So you DO believe in pushing a social engineering agenda. You just don't like heterosexuality.

[HighlyQuestionable]

I am 100% HETEROSEXUAL!!

My issue relates to GENDER ROLES and assumed social characteristics of genders.

[aceleon]

not into that but there are masculine things and feminine things in this world and we can't outgrow that this is basically the core of life.

[HighlyQuestionable]

You're totally wrong aceleon, nothing is "masculine" or "feminine" 9except actual genders) until this backwater society throws a label on it. In my youth (1980's) we were close to mitigating those concepts. If you don't believe me, take some examples from the entertainment world: David Bowie, Annie Lenox, Boy George.

This obsession with gender and sexual identity are relatively recent. That or the toxicity of conservative culture just bubbled up again.

[aceleon]

you do you mate, for me if a boy acts like a pushover he is feminine, if they act confident and tough it is masculine period, cucks are feminine, harem kings are masculine.

[HighlyQuestionable]

I thought Europeans were a bit more evolved... ok, I hoped you were.

You are British/English, yes? or middle-eastern ancestry?

Let's turn back the clock a bit. 17th century: "Fops" were effete, even effeminate... then they'd draw a blade and cut you down with it.

As far as the use of the word "cuck" (Cuckold), I'm not sure where that comes in at?

"Harem Kings"? You'll have to explain that one to me.

I'm not about "just doing me"... I'm curious about others thoughts and opinions

[aceleon]

most masculine thing i could though was having a multitude of woman who only has sex with me while most effeminate and unmanly thing i could think was sharing your woman.

[HighlyQuestionable]

Should say "of" not "or". I asked because of the "Harem King" comment. Even odder, I suppose, because "Haram" has the connotation of "forbidden"

[HighlyQuestionable]

I really don't get the appeal of dating a multitude... I got past that desire in grade school.

[aceleon]

funny cuz i bet at grade school you were a child who is oblivious of the carnal desires (which kind of look like you still are) having 1 woman feels good so multiple feels good even better more female more pleasure also if you want to go to dating part well multiple person to bring money to home, more person to take care of house chores, more kids, and more person to take care of that kids, more people to talk to etc etc

[HighlyQuestionable]

I was born with very different, I don't know... outlooks on things. I have never bought into the (very consumer/capitalist) concept of:

"More is better"

It so rarely is.

[aceleon]

generally i am not either but when it comes to woman less or more is not that good so i go with the more convenient ones.

[007kingifrit]

these are not stereotypes you child they are biological facts. they have been around before humans even existed and those who resist them will die and not breed

[Nemesis2k7]

Its not crap. Its a fact. There are 2 different types of personalities.

[HighlyQuestionable]

No, Nemesis. there are MANY types of personality.

[ItsALongWayToTheTop]

How do you outgrow that?

[HighlyQuestionable]

It's not as hard as you might think.
Until I encountered people who thought this way, it never entered my mind.