Is the reason the democrats want open borders, from the South, is because they will vote democrat and all that matters is the next election?

[Kelley1]

[rigmarole]

It’s not that they believe illegal immigrants will vote Democrat. They don’t even have the right to vote in federal elections. What they are doing is inflating U. S. Census figures to capture more house seats in congress and gain extra electors in the electoral college. By doing so they grab more power for blue states than is warranted in the legislative and executive branch of the U. S. government. They don’t care how they vote because Democrats rig the vote to whatever they want the outcome to be. They just need the population figures on the books to mask the truth and water down citizens real vote all in a bid to grab more power than the constitution affords them.

[rigmarole]

You remember how they stopped the counting in the middle of the night in 2020 and 2022 in various blue states? That's because they had to figure out how many ballots they had to generate out of thin air to create the illusion of a win. In a number of county they exceed 100% of the voter rolls which isn't mathematically impossible. Thus they need to boost the population and voter role count in specific locations in order to be able to carry out fraud on that scale. When votes exceed voters it is blatantly obvious that they have committed a crime and they get caught. But if they increase the voter rolls via a population boom of migrants then it is easier to hide the crime.

[rigmarole]

That's also why they don't want voter ID. They don't want you to be able to confirm that the votes they allegedly tally in the middle of the night are not legal votes from citizens of the united states. With no id that tracks to an actual person who has provided certified documentation, there is no way to track the fraud. They are cooking the books.

[rigmarole]

But extortive engineered migration as an asymmetric weapon of war has a much thicker plot than that. You're only looking at it from one angle. It's much worse than you think.

[rigmarole]

Whatever they can do to boost those numbers they will do to stay in power... The people are against them. Ideally they want to eliminate the electoral college all together and move to the popular vote because it's much easier to rig and hide the fraud.

But if you look deeper into the reasoning for illegal immigration it covers a gamut of nefarious activity. Women and children are trafficked by cartel. Illegals play a major role in drug smuggling and gun running. An open border allows for pass through of intelligence gathering by Chinese and Russian spies. MS-13 and ISIS members are imported to carry out assassinations, kidnappings, hijackings, terrorist attacks, riots, and gang warfare to target and remove domestic assets and instill fear and desperation in Americans. They are sent to target and disrupt police and military institutions. They target social safety nets for the poor like food banks, medical services, education system, etc. They use them as human shields to create logistical logjams that lead to supply chain shortages. They spread propaganda. They an army for the elites that rig the system. They have an ultimate goal of instigating civil war within a population. Extortive engineered migration an instrument of statecraft by outside actors who are waging war against the United States of America.

[rigmarole]

*They're

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

It's called changing the u. s. voting population. This is why the Democrats are opening the borders.

[WhiteSteve]

I believe it takes something in the neighborhood of five years to become a legal US citizen who is allowed to vote. Even if Biden let people in, those people would never be able to vote for Biden. And don’t believe any nonsense to the contrary that they CAN vote, that simply isn’t true for state or federal elections. The very most voting a non-citizen can do is vote in a local town/city election with a Green Card. Don’t believe anything else you hear, it isn’t true.

[Kelley1]

In 1996, the U. S. Congress passed a law prohibiting noncitizens from voting in federal elections, including elections for the U. S. House, U. S. Senate, and presidential elections. This does not apply to elections at the state and local levels. Technically, it is illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. However, they are encouraged to vote because in areas controlled by democrats they are never prosecuted.
The District of Columbia and municipalities in three states allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of June 2023: California, Maryland, and Vermont.

[WhiteSteve]

“Technically, it is illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. However, they are encouraged to vote because in areas controlled by democrats they are never prosecuted.”

I don’t believe this part to be at all true. At very worst, a few isolated incidents of voter fraud. But there is absolutely ZERO legitimate evidence that hasn’t been laughed out of a court of law (the only opinion that matters) about actual voter fraud, no matter how hard they try to tell you the contrary. This is exactly why social media and whatnot is dangerous. Widespread fallacies considered to be true by MILLIONS, please understand how dangerous this is.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

They are working on it as we write about it. Sleepy Senile Joe might try to mandate it like every other illegal mandate he has written. End game people will thank THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA for their illegal entry to this country by voting for them as soon as they can.

[WhiteSteve]

@DARKCLOUD1945X Come at me with REAL PROOF and get it confirmed to be true in a court of law. I don’t care one iota about conspiracy theories and wild allegations.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

AS we all know there is no courts of law left in this country. Only Democratic kangaroo courts Love your conspiracy crap. I think it is time you look at what you think you are seeing take off your DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA blinders open your eyes and look. You might just learn something

[WhiteSteve]

@DARKCLOUD1945X so literally every court in America is Democratic? I thought you guys were “the silent majority?” But you just never work in the legal field, orrrrr…?

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

I am listening to Biden bullshit his bill fix everything and fixes nothing Again it is Trumps fault I want to know how it is Trumps Fault when this asshole mandated the opening of the border. he is blaming everyone else's but himself. Sounds like you also never worked in a law office. Just like THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA you just deflect. As for the Courts in America. they are not Democratic but run by Democrats.

[WhiteSteve]

@DARKCLOUD1945X Well…. I’m not even a Democrat, man. Just calling it how I see it. Whatever happened to Occam’s Razor? It’s just very difficult to believe that instead of obvious reality, the true answer is a series of 342 conspiracies, each with 58 sub-conspiracies apiece, and ALLLLLLLL of this corruption would’ve had to go on, in a pretty 50/50 environment as far as right vs left goes, and no one on the right working in these same industries of law and governement would’ve figured it out and stopped any of it?

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Lol I think we are both overthinking a bit since what we are saying will not do a thing to help or hinders anything. Our lives are held by a bunch of assholes in Washington by all parties. All I know is my S. S. buys a lot less than it did 3 years ago and I am not as safe, and our country is heading to a4th rate Banana. Republic. Sorry to say but The United States will most probably will not exist in 2 or 3 years just a Boro of China !

[NaultD]

Or how about treating people with human dignity? United States of America citizens has freedom of movement domesticly. Why limit it when people are actively seeking asylum or transition into citizens?

Our constitution makes a steep declaration all "PEOPLE" have certain unalienable rights. Not just civilians. Top being "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." To diminish or undermine any person to limit life, liberty and pursuit of happiness well diminish and undermine us all.

We are of the people by the people and our laws are by us and represent us. We cannot hide "but thier illegal immigrants." We as the people can make laws that can accommodate immigrants. Same as our majority history has done to become the global economy power house it was.

Here's the thing china is racing passed us with soft geopolitical power, throwing money into silk road 2.0 land and ocean. With china one child policy tipping scales more male for decades and exotic wifes for the picking is going to round off china if only the communist party wasn't so terrible at every other aspect of living.

The one and true fact is the United States of America is the greatest place to ever exist. Because a universal promise was made true to everyone, anyone left behind hurts us all. Our deepest battles scars and deepest shames demonstrates that time and time again. Yet redemption is always possible and our promise to humanity only becomes more clear.

[Siri137]

"Seeking asylum" you say. From WHAT? From conflict? There isn't a war in Mexico, so why don't they just stay there?

[NaultD]

@LadiesFavoriteToy I already got raped as a child by my immediate family, thank you very much.

It's rare for random person to get raped, you kinda need to know a guy.

This is why sex education is so important and abstinence can go eat a dick. That's how how I learned I got raped and did something about.

It's you people that love for others to suffer alone.

[NaultD]

@Siri137 USA makes a point of putting our dick in South American countries' plates. Venezuela nationalized all of their oil for the people mid 2010s. Similar thing alaska did back in the 60s with our conservative governor.

Usa didn't like copy cats destroy Venezuela government and people's livelihoods. As an apology the process easy easy lemon squeezey walking their. Then a pandemic if you can not die and wait over there everything will be good. 3 years later and not everyone is dead yet let us make up something us till then.

Or how about treating people with human dignity?

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[Kelley1]

All that sounds fine except people from other places have very different customs, attitudes, and beliefs. Therefore, the ultimate effect is horrible. Californians move to other states to escape what California has become. However, they bring their liberal voting habits with them turning the states they move into the same kind of liberal hellhole they escaped from. Just like Californians do to states they move to, immigrants will turn the USA into the same type of awful government they moved away from. .

[NaultD]

They abandoned their own home. Children left unburied forefathers betrayed. Where can they go?

Where would you go?

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

Did you keep on with the family tradition?

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

All this fancy writing reminds me of an old saying IF YOU CAN'T DAZZEL THEM WITH FOOT WORK THEN DAZZEL THEM WITH BULLSHIT! Which all this is about. The one thing that overrides THEIR rights is that they violated our LAWS AGAIN, THEY VIOLATED OUR LAWS. They have no rights to any of our protections they would have if they had entered OUR COUNTRY LEGALLY not ILLEGALLY. which as a felon voids any rights this country could have afforded them if they entered legally.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

THEY are violating our laws. What about the people who are doing it the right and legal way of becoming a citizen waiting and getting green cards. not crashing our borders and laws ALL ARE WELCOME HERE LEGALLY. Now wait for the warm weather and the crime wave that is going to happen. Just look at NYC illegals stealing [mugging delivery drivers] of their scooters for work then they ride down the street stealing phones pocketbooks and packages assaulting police and giving the finger to the people of this country. This cold weather wait till spring when you have millions of illegal roaming the street with nothing to do and on the DOLE with our money. Senile Joe Biden is giving this country to China we will just be an outer Boro of China. do not violate our laws enter legally and be welcome if not they should be deported right away no questions asked. LEGALLY OR NOT AT ALL

[NaultD]

@DARKCLOUD1945X we are a government of the people by the people. Those people write laws that represent all of us as people.

So let's make laws that help can get people into citizens and functioning people in our communities. Why cross illegally if we had new laws that help with immigration to go by in a day?

We don't because Republicans love slave laber. We would have ZERO illegal immigrants If we jail employers of illegal immigrants. Don't need nothing else. If they can't work they have to go home.

[Kelley1]

I doubt that you are right but you made a very valid point regarding employers of illegal immigrants.

[NaultD]

Here's another fun thing. People get upset about illegal immigrants going to trial for illegally crossing.

"Why not deport them immediately?"

Ask yourself this how do you prove yourself a legal resident without a lawyer and trial? If trials and citizens are only for citizens as the feds take everything from you. What power do you have?

Your hand to God, who has more power to make you disappear? The government or some illegal immigrants?

[TadCurious]

That explanation is a really big part of it. The Dems regard illegal aliens as part of their political base. They see them as future Democrat voters.

The Dems don't view American sovereignty and the rule of (immigration) law the way most people with common sense do. Deep down, they think it's unjust for the United States to secure the border and enforce already-existing immigration law. That's why you have all of these Democrat-run sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They don't even want illegal aliens who commit crimes (in addition to committing the federal criminal offense of illegal entry) deported.

[strateguy632]

but what if those would vote republican? oh they would not vote for those who expect the immigration process. they would vote for the democrat who put "them" ahead of those immigrants waiting for the process so that must be the reason.

[jshm2]

Don't be daft.

Non-citizens can't vote, for a start. So no matter the bullshitter telling you different, you laugh in their face. Also, there is no such thing as an "open border". You either have a border, or you don't.

As for voting democrat. Most of these asylum seekers are Catholic and conservative. So more likely to vote Republican when they get their green card.

[OtterMan68]

yep, ask them their views on abortion and LGBT issues

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

You are wrong about open border WE HAVE NO BORDERS THANKS TO SENILE JOES MANDATE. Also, Senile Joe can close the border with in 24 hours by issuing a mandate to close our nonexistent borders plus he does not have to pay for the wall because it was paid for by Trump

[Lionman95]

Not an American I would say no because being able to vote is generally the right of a citizen not of a refugee or someone that fled somewhere.
I think the reason is rather the history of America being a country of immigrants where the unity is achieved by people from different ethnities coming together.
Some Democrats might want an open border because they are more economically focused. Since has to do the shitty jobs societies depend on for now someone has to do like cleaning.

[Flatmanlewis]

Democrats have always tried to skew the vote. In California they have proposed lowering the voting age to 16, allowing prisoners to vote while in state prison ( not jail, but prison - people who have been convicted of felonies), allowing “residents” to vote which was code for anyone - illegal or not.

[1User12345]

They are militants in form only I did not serve this country in the shape it's in so my opinion is they want Stalin Maputo Mao Si Tong Fadell Castro Pol Pot Cezar Chavis Kim Sion Uwe all Aetolia's Shakes Hitler and so on down to Lucifer alias Satan don't worry we are seeing the end of the age hopefully these generations present quit following the leader and think for them self's and knock off the hate for anyone who disagrees minds are like parachutes they only function when opened.

[Anonymous]

Just because you walk across the border illegally, doesn't mean you can vote. The amount of verification some states do now to vote, you need like 5 pieces of paperwork, so "hoping" that the illegal migrants that make it across "will someday" legally fill out all their paperwork, go through the process, and become democratic voters, is a losing strategy.

[abc3643]

Of course not. That's stupid and they don't want open borders either.

Congratulations! This is your second question this week in which I have to ask "Where to you get this shit? Who is fucking up your head?"

[Kelley1]

I only have to witness what they do, to understand why the democrats do what they do. They even have the gall to illegally destroy property owned by the State of Texas. Clearly, the only logical reason is because people from socialists countries vote for democrats. If illegal immigrants from the South voted for Republican the Democrats would be shooting illegal immigrants.

[abc3643]

No, you don't.
What you see and what reality is are often two different things. That's the nature of the universe.

But, in this case, you're actually being stupid (with the voting angle) and that annoys me because I know that you are much better than this. Be better than the idiots grooming you to be an idiot.

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

Democrats are twisted and mentally ill they don't know the difference from rape to abuse.

[Surely]

I heard a guy interpreting this new and improved save the world spending bill last night. Here is what I took out of it. In the first year. Biden’s welcomed guest will be able to collect Federal Benefits. Around the fourth year they will be able to vote!
God save us!

[DryGermanGuy]

Actually the repeated howling about the „open“ border is a typical GOP trope:

https://youtu.be/lwyK5VlBFAM?si=dwiPWOqAJfgFt5q7

[DryGermanGuy]

www.meidastouch.com/.../border-patrol-union-endorses-bipartisan-border-bill

[Kelley1]

3 minutes of that stupidy was all I could stand.

[Berethor]

Seems so, and they don't care about the country turning into a third world mess.

[Passerby2]

They hate the idea of nationalism

There's two ways to get power as a politician:

1. Nationalism

2. Fake compassion for the world

[msc545]

No. It is because Democrats dslike racism which is all the whining about immigrants is really about. Also, when lots of people vote, Republicans and their shitty polcies LOSE, and they know that.

[slatyb]

No, it's not, Democrats don't want open borders but we don't want people dying at the border either.

[Avicenna]

The Democrats are not democrats, so it's not about voting for them.

[Jersey2]

This is the height of corruption and of national betrayal. It’s a disgusting plan pushed by disgusting people. This can start a war.

[normalice]

Democrats don't want open borders. Republicans want them because they need a campaign issue.

[Anonymous]

the only people who should have a say on the border are native americans

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Note there is no such thing as a Native American. People that are called Native American crossed over the land bridge from the European continent thousands of years ago therefore are not native to this continent..

[Opinion Owner]

yea they should call the shots, not europeans

[Anonymous]

That's half of the reason.

[tfan1]

You hit the nail on the head.

[SolitarySolace]

It’s the only thing that makes sense.

[SolitarySolace]

I mean that’s how the democrats turned California into a perpetual blue state

[gorydetails]

THat plus they love exploiting brown people.

[Zestyassmf1997]

I’m doubtful about illegals voting.

[exitseven]

Well, DUH

[Pterodon]

Yes it is

[MrZameer]

Looking so beautiful

[Anonymous]

democrats will lose