Do you think Palestinians in israel see Jews as invaders to their country?

[Anonymous]

Me personally I think they do, and they want rid of them

[avery58]

In Israel proper? Like Israelis of Palestinian heritage? How can most of us here know if we don't live there?

If we don't live there then we can't have a real opinion about since we haven't seen it or met them.

I know that Palestinians in the West Bank have been very vocal about their opinion on settlements though.

[Asker]

You can see All over the world and the footage that they want the Jews gone , and all Muslim protesters demonstrate against Israel and say inshallah (if Allah wills it) when you ask them what about the Jews killed in the past 70 odd years and back in October by hamas 😠 they got find balance or people won't take them seriously

[Avicenna]

The Palestinians are really Egyptians and Jordanians, but given Jews have lived in not only what's now the internationally-recognized State of Israel for thousands of years, as well as Judea and Samaria (now in the West Bank), if anyone is going to be designated invaders, it should be the Palestinians, the overwhelming majority of whom want to kill all Jews.

[Avicenna]

And you might want to talk to Mizrahi Jews whose family members were expelled from the Arab countries where their ancestors had lived for up to a millenium or more. Where were they supposed to go? To the world's refuge for Jews or somewhere else they'd be persecuted again?

[handsomelad70]

How do you know most Palestinians want to kill the Jews?

[Avicenna]

@handsomelad70: Polls tell us. Are you even aware that hatred of Jews and the acceptability of violence against them is taught in schools in the West Bank and Gaza, schools run by the United Nations (some of whose employees are members of terror groups and assisted Hamas on 10/7)?

You really don't know anything about the Middle East if you don't know that.

[Anonymous]

They do but it's important to remember the Jews bought land in then Palestine, poor land and the Arabs laughed at them and the Jews turned those areas into green oasises. Israel's boarders can be mapped out from space simply by which area is green and which is desert.

[D_Bone_Steak]

They've been going at it since I was a kid. ... and I don't give a fuck about any of them. Fuck Africa too.

Oh shit I'm not Anon... time for plan #2

That's better. Yo crakkaz betta recognize and sheeeiiit.

[handsomelad70]

He's too ugly to be Yours Truly !!!

[handsomelad70]

Yes, because they've always lived there, while Israel came into being in 1948.(Think: The European takeover of the Americas which were previously populated by the First Peoples.)

[KrakenAttackin]

If you want to keep your land, don't be conquered. This is a shitty but real truth. Human history is replete with seizing land. Just ask the Ukranian's.

[handsomelad70]

@KrakenAttackin Especially with Putin's Greater Russia delusions.

[KrakenAttackin]

@handsomelad70. Exactly right. Every society has to fight to protect and preserve its people and culture.

[Avicenna]

@KrakenAttackin: Actually, like most leftists he's ignoring the reality that Jews have lived there for thousands of years. The genius also either doesn't know or doesn't want to admit that around half of all Jews are descended from Jews who lived in Arab countries for a millenium or more and never got anywhere close to Europe. But the leftists have to see everything through their "hate whitey" prejudice and don't care about historical facts.

[handsomelad70]

@Avicenna Just as righties see George Floyd and other black male victims of police brutality as black beasts who must be put down like the animals these racists deem all black men to be.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Avicenna Maybe, but that's also irrelevant. The only thing that matters is who can hold the land and for how long.

[Avicenna]

@handsomelad70: You need to spend some time in the real world instead of being further radicalized by leftist propaganda. Look at the misconceptions you have about the history of the Middle East and see what happens when you couple that with your racism.

[handsomelad70]

@Avicenna You're full of it. Leftist propaganda, my pinup boy handsome,160+ IQ black a**. I don't know EVERYTHING about the Middle East's history, but more then enough to opine that a two-state solution is the only chance to end the bloodshed which claims Israeli and Palestinian lives.

[Asker]

I agree, but even then they'll be accusing each other going into the others territory

[KrakenAttackin]

@handsomelad70. The crazy thing is both sides need each other for economic growth.

[handsomelad70]

@KrakenAttackin I know, but the bad actors on each side exacerbate these tensions.

[KrakenAttackin]

@handsomelad70. What's your prediction for the immediate future?

[Avicenna]

@handsomeload: Whatever you think your IQ might be, you are naive about the Middle East. But since you "know" that a two-state solution will end bloodshed, tell us what the Palestinian state would be like- would it be a democracy? What checks would there be on the government of such a state? Would it have a military or would it be like Lebanon, where Hezbollah rules as an Iranian proxy and state institutions are weak, certainly too weak to keep Hezbollah from attacking Israel repeatedly.

How would the peace be kept between the Palestinian state and Israel? Who would prevent Hamas, PIJ, and other terror groups from smuggling weapons from Sinai like they do now and prevent them from attacking Israel like they do now?

[handsomelad70]

@Avicenna At least now, there would need to be a U. N. peacekeeping force and likely at least a global skeleton force to ensure that whatever Palestinian government emerges can't menace Israel, and vice versa. Palestinians would of course, have to have free unbiased elections which would also have to be monitored by worldwide NGOs because it would be a new state unaccustomed to democracy.

[Avicenna]

Well, having been a peacekeeper myself (twice), I can tell you that UN peacekeepers aren't going to be able to restrain Hamas and PIJ, and if they try to, the terror groups will start killing peacekeepers if they haven't already once they enter Gaza and the West Bank. And the terror groups will continue to attack Israel, as they have made clear they will always continue to do. Israel will of course have to defend itself.

"Worldwide NGOs" will have no authority in Gaza and the West Bank, especially when Hamas wins the elections. They won't be able to do a thing when Hamas re-imposes its totalitarian rule.

[RavVid]

To be fair Palestinians don't generally realize they aren't Arabs and don't realize they were interlopers circa 600 -700 AD. So I don't think they have a full grasp of the sit.

[Asker]

You can see All over the world and the footage that they want the Jews gone , and all Muslim protesters demonstrate against Israel and say inshallah (if Allah wills it) when you ask them what about the Jews killed in the past 70 odd years and back in October by hamas 😠 they got find balance or people won't take them seriously

[RavVid]

Irredentism is interesting and sad. OK Israeli Jews should go. The the Arab Palestinians should go cause they didn't have rights to do what they did in 600-700 AD. The Romans didn't have any right to push the Jews out so we should roll back to the Jewish state of that time.

Hang on the Jews muscled the Canaanites out so we should roll them back in. Ah the Jews were Canaanites originally so I guess that means we are back to a Jewish state.

The point is irredentism arguments are nonsense because you can always find an earlier population that were unjustly invaded. Your palestinians were earlier invaders. If we roll back invasions we have to keep rolling back to the Natufians and Neanderthals.

[Asker]

You are so right RavVid

[RavVid]

It would be like saying all white Americans, Canadians, Australians have to go back to Europe. As soon as we got there we'd have to back to Asian steppes where Indo Europeans came from. Then descendants of Early European Farmers would have to go back to Turkey to leave Europe for the more original Western Hunter Gathers.

But they should go somewhere else because Neanderthals were there first. (Guys & gals cross breeding is going to make it a challenge to figure out where to go).

At least our Australian Aborigines seem to think the bones of our ancestors are in the land so we have some right to be here. Plus they like the mining royalty checks :).

[Berethor]

Arabs should go back to the arabian peninsula, israel is the ancestral homeland of jews.

[NamerOfStars]

Given the vehemence of the anti-Israel rhetoric, I sure hope so. The alternative requires a level of hate that's extreme even for the Middle East.

[Twalli]

Probably, but I think they understand that Israel has justification.

[OtterMan68]

Yes, they were the majority in the 1940s when the UN voted to create the modern state of israel and give the Israeli's half the land that used to be British Palestine

[exitseven]

I do not think they put that much thought into it. They just want to kill the Jews.

[DrPepper12]

They are artificially inflated migrants at the very least.

[AngryCarl]

Israel is a de facto army of occupation. It's hard to see how Palestinians could think otherwise.

[noohair]

Every modern border was created by war. I California occupied teratory?

[kareka]

Yesss they are

[MatureMan40]

Yes.

[RedInnocent69]

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