Yes, but the point is largely irrelevant. Relations between states (and in this case peoples" in the international arena are not determined by morality, but by power.
It being wise to recall the words of Thucydides as paraphrased by Victor Davis Hanson: "Power, not justice... is always the final arbiter of state relations; self-interest, not morality, is what guides and must guide the behavior of states. Appeals to mercy or hope for reprieve are misguided, not rooted in logic or a realistic understanding of human behavior."
Insofar as the current Mideast situation is concerned, the conflict was born when under the Balfour Declaration of 1917, the British - then the imperial power in the region - made what is today Israel a homeland for the Jews. This being affirmed by the United Nations Organization after World War II.
As to who may stake an ultimate claim, under international law, the area was divided into two states, but the Arab states rejected this and attacked. In the end, the attack failed and the whole area became Israel and the Arabs who lived in the region considered themselves to be occupied.
As to who has the historic claim, it is lost in the mists of time. Strictly speaking the Jews arrived in the region well before the Arabs. The Arabs not arriving in the Middle East until 636 AD - long after the Jews had settled the region. The Jews themselves having not been native to the region but having arrived from the Semitic tribes of Mesopotamia in about the 2nd millennium BC.
Suffice to say, a problem with that historic an ancestry is not apt to be settled by appeals to the historical record, much of which is obscured in the mists of time. The twist being that a PALESTINIAN people - as opposed to more generic Arab peoples - is a recent invention. Born primarily in the 20th century as an outgrowth of - in another irony - European imperialism.
Thus, Palestinian national identity is relatively thin gruel and why, in fact, it has become less of a force in the Middle East. Indeed, it is why the Palestinian cause is now led mostly by pan-Islamist forces - see also HAMAS. Pan-Islam being a forced that defines identity not in national terms but in religious ones.
The further irony being that after the Palestinian nationalists supported Iraq against Kuwait in the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the Arab states began to abandon the Palestinian cause. Such today that the principle benefactor of the Sunni Muslim Palestinian Arabs is Shiite Muslim Persian Iran.
Thus today, the current fireworks in the Middle East is more deceptive than not. The Palestinian cause - as a nationalist cause - is largely dead. Being more akin to a civil rights movement than a nationalist cause. The Arab states have largely abandon it in favor of peace with Israel as a counterweight to Iran.
The Palestinians, never having had a deep sense of national identity, are recurring to a more general sense of Arab and Muslim identity. In this the Iranians are backing them largely as a way to pressure their Arab rivals - particularly Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan, the latter two of which already have peace treaties with Israel.
Suffice to add that if Saudi Arabia - keeper of the Muslim Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina - were to make peace with Israel, it would likely split the Muslim world wide open. Particularly along the Sunni/Shiite divide but even within Sunni Islam.
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"Equal"
I think your premise and agenda is off.
Why do you expect it to be "equal"?
When Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait in 1990... were the results between the Coalition allies and Iraq equal? No, they were obliterated.
Are we so blind with this new woke agenda that now we even search for equality it military actions?
If one side is winning or dominating a war... that is "racist" or a sign of inequality?
They are indiscriminately launching rockets into the populated cities of Israel... threatening its citizens. Israel is under no "woke" obligations to be equal in its defense of a military threat against its country.
Wiping out the threat is its only righteous goal and objective. If Mexico started launching missiles at the USA... terrorizing populations centers and killing Americans... I'd demand we wipe that threat off the Earth. I couldn't give a rats ass about the results being "EQUAL".
Don't fire rockets at Israel. That is the common sense BOTTOM LINE. Don't fire rockets at Israel and they won't attack militarily. Once you start launching rockets at them... an act of war then does sit back and whine the results aren't "equal".
That government's ONLY righteous obligation is to utterly destroy and wipe out any deadly threat attacking its people. They are better armed... have a standing army and an air force. Hamas and company does not. The results won't be equal. When Hamas starts killing Israeli's and sending rocket attacks... the response won't be equal.
Hence... don't launch rocket attacks against a country. Don't bitch when that country opens a can of whoop ass.
absolutely not Israel is not defending themselves, they are killing innocent civilians.
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Okay, none of these numbers in any shape or form take into account the sequence at which violence takes place or the actual attempts at which violence takes place.
For example, in 2014 (which the image is referring to), Hamas launched over 4500 missiles at Israeli territory.
Why should Israel hold off on any response just because the Israelis have a sound enough system to deal with such missiles? For all intents and purposes, any missile launched is attempted murder.
In what way is attempted murder okay and requires no punishment just because it didn’t kill anyone?
Sure, we can argue that Israelis strike too many people not directly involved in combat or something like that, but disproportionate numbers in itself mean quite little for a) the sequence at which violence happens and b) the attempts from the Palestinian side.
Yes.
Britain won WWI, it decided to give a portion of the otoman's territory to Israel, another to a completely new concept called Palestine which was just a source of slaves for the otomans before.
Those around acted like hitler and didn't liked the deal.
So they gave been terrorists ever since, hiding behind civilians who only let them hide there because they are cowards who approve of their genocidal message but aren't brave enough to carry it themselves.
So, the vivid fascist state of Israel is just defending itself while it puts a yellow star of David on it's unvaccinated.
Lol!
"How is this a fight between equals?"
You might want to look up the word "Attrition". Pronounced "Ah-Trih-Shun".
What the jihadist savages are counting on is an attrition strategy, that their number of attacks will overwhelm Israel's firepower. Israel, in turn, counts on their firepower to overcome the "human wave" strategy of their foes.
They have always had to defend themselves. They get blamed for every depression and recession. They have a country the size of some people lawns and are told to give up more of it. They offered all captured land from 1967 for peace and Palestinians refused. Hitler tried to kill them all. They have nothing to say sorry for.
War is not about fighting between EQUALS!! Where did you get that STUPID IDEA?
Palestinians send ROCKETS, BOMBS, in to Israeli territory, and kill their people, and destroy property, and they should just take it?
PISS OFF!! How stupid are you!! What person, in their RIGHT MIND fucks with Israel? They are surrounded by nations that HATE THEM and want to kill them, so YEAH, they defend themselves!!
Ok, and posting Statistics, post the SOURCE, so it can be verified, and NOT BULLSHIT!!
Yes, there's no amount of Palestinian lives that would ever equal one Israeli. Israel is home to wonderful people, Gaza is home to two kinds of people, terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers. That's it, and Hamas keeps launching missiles at Israel, they shoot them down and punish them for the missiles by firing their own back at them and they deserve it.
Of course Israel is just defending itself. The only shame is that they’re not going in a lot harder.
Israel killed thousands civils since 1948. Germany did genocide to jewish but they attacked Muslims. If sionists are honest they seek the right to of Germany and another european country. Let them want land from Europe. Muslims have no fault in this matter. On the contrary Muslims always protected the jews. For example The Ottomans protected them when they were subjected to genocide in Andulusia.
Maybe you should be asking why Hamas decided to start the war by launching missiles at Israeli civilians. Surely the money spent on those missiles could have been better spent on Gazan civilians, who Hamas has intentionally endangered.
The part where Hamas attacks first and uses scummier tactics while doing it. They don’t care about casualties and won’t back down, so of course they’re going to have number like that.
When you kill someone attacking you, you’ve successfully defended yourself and the ratio is 1:0.
But how else are they going to call themselves the Israeli "defence" force?
It doesn’t matter if they are equal. If they were attacked they have the right to defend themselves and more.
I think they are, but, at the same time
I ALSO KNOW ABOUT THE FUCKING GOD DAMN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN PROPHECY
I'm jewish
SO FUCK OFF EVANGELICALS
And where did you get that information - on the back of a milk container?
Yup... you attacked. They’re cleaning you up! You stupid morons! You picked a fight with giants ! Suffer !
the israeli's are the victims here not the palestines
Absolutely not, just like blowing up the King David Hotel was "self defense".
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Never did think that.
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