What is your biggest pet peeve of the political party opposite your own belief?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Also what is your own belief when it comes to that topic? Try to be more specific than "they just lie a lot".

[ohsheeT]

My own belief and biggest pet peeve is that there is over 570 something electric federal office positions that's just Federal and not one of them there to stand up to be great.

I don't know how many people are in the United States but I know that. The two options that we have to vote for. Would not even make good boy scouts..

And the reasons why we only have these two options is because they give us drama... They give us something to make our minds spin to keep it off the truth that we are being fucked... We are being railroaded we are being used... And until the day we figure this out we are going to keep losing in every manner and every moral value and ethic that we believe in you have to be kidding me we have dumb and dumber. Except for the real dumb and dumber made us laugh these guys we have to laugh otherwise we're going to cry when are we all going to wake up our country is falling so far we can still kick ass but that's just because we the little people will make that happen our government should be ashamed of themselves we should be ashamed of ourselves for voting for them it's ridiculous

[monorprise]

@ohsheeT
An election in reality is a popularity contest.
Adults if informed can rationally decide to cast their vote on a particular issue but not if there is no particular issue on which they all vote or if they inherently disagree on said issue due to regional differences in needs.

The system use to work better because it was original a goverment of few and defined powers of a forign nature. After 200 years that goverment has become one of few and vague limits thus demanding we vote on every issue every election.

The result is we are really all voting on no particular issue at all which simply means its a popularity contest of generally undefined theme based factions reflecting almost pointlessly broad platforms. Which is why we have exactly what we have.

[ohsheeT]

@monorprise

Yes I agree with you but out of the two that we have I don't see how they can even be popular.
They're both wrong they're both followers and not leaders.
And I truly don't want either one representing me in anything they do...
The sad part is so many millions and millions of Americans can't see past their nose and they're just following these guys because they've been brainwashed I think.

. If you weigh out the positives and negatives that each one of them have done in their lifetime to other people to this country how many times they've been caught lying cheating . Thieving

Each one is just digging our hole deeper to where when the little people weed the little people say enough we're going to have to fight our way out

Look at everything happening money is being spent right and left not for people of America but for everybody else look at all the foods that is being wasted ... Because of quote unquote new bird diseases big warehouses being burnt down if government becomes our bank and they start controlling the food they have control of us like we've never ever seen and we are all fucked we need somebody that's going to stand up and fight for us and quit being one of the good old boys and be real I doubt it's going to happen but after all these years not one person has stood up to be great Trump had a chance and he blew it like he blows everything Biden he's a lifelong politician he's bought and sold us all but we the people just don't give a shit I guess

[llorando]

I'm a independent, so both political parties are opposite my beliefs. That said is my biggest pet peeve is that both parties, instead of telling you why you should vote for their candidate, they scaremonger why you shouldn't vote for the other sides candidate. Like what difference does it make, their 2 sides of the same coin.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Pretty much this and sadly it works for a lot of people. They vote less on the issues and more against the ones they have been trained to hate and fear.

[llorando]

This is part of the reason I left the Democratic party to become Independent, all the fearmongering has made many of the members toxic. Same thing has happened on the Republican side. It's no secret this is by design, to keep everyone fighting and hating each other while party elite's on both sides do the bidding of their big $$$ donors.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yep and it's always the same boogeyman from each side they use. Right now for Republicans it's lgbt+ and immigration. For Democrats it's the fear of fascism from right.

The only thing I do agree with is that Republicans are trying to make this a Christian theocracy which I highly disagree with.

[llorando]

I agree with Christian theocracy, but in my views it's not all republicans mostly the ultra right wing of the party. I have family members who are moderate Republicans and they don't share this view.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I should have been more specific, but yes the ultra right wing is what I was referring to, but republican leaders are just as complicit in letting it happen.

[llorando]

Thanks for MH.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You're very welcome!

[itsclearlynicholas]

Group hug 🤗🫂

[itsclearlynicholas]

Even for a foreigner group hug 🫂🤗 not on us soil am I , yet group hug lol 😆

[WintersDaughter]

The lies or the the fact that they just follow the crowd and don't know what they're fighting for/protesting against.

I'm more middle ground nowadays, slightly right leaning, and both sides piss me off.

Republicans are way to religious, and everytime I try to talk to them about anything (whether I agree with them or not) all they want to talk about is jesus. Most of them are too obsessed with Trump, like guys I like him too but he's not this perfect almighty man.

Democrats parrot everything they're told or that they read from political influencers (although both sides do this, I've found that the right will do more independent research on top of listening to political people).

The pro hamas crowd is probably my biggest pet peeve, because everytime I talk to them they either shout slogans (which all literally call for Israel/Jewish genocide) or they just blindly repeat proven lies. And the fact that most of them are violent.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Full agreement here aside from the Hamas thing. I actually don't have a side as I'm not well versed in what's going on. I just know that the idea of bombing innocents suck as well as the idea innocents are being kidnapped and raped. I really should pay more attention to it, but it honestly just depresses me.

[David94358]

@WintersDaughter couldn't have said it better myself.. in fact I'm stating to wonder if someone made a female clone of me with you being so exact with how I feel! Lol

[WintersDaughter]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 It's a very depressing situation. It's a war, and wars are awful and tragic. Israel wants peace, they've agreed to ceasefires in the past and Palestine has always broken them. At this point, it's a lose-lose situation so they're just trying to rescue the hostages and take out terrorists based and weapon locations. The problem with that is those are all located in highly populated areas like schools, hospitals and churches (which is a war crime), so Israel has to make a hard decision. In trying to lower innocent casualties, Israel releases time and locations for where they attack, they literally drop fliers. Palestinians record themselves laughing at the fliers and ignoring them. It's awful and it sucks, but all Israel wants is peace. They've even offered two state solutions, but Palestine always declines. It's hard to achieve peace with people that want you dead.

[WintersDaughter]

@David94358 We are clones 😂

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yeah, it is. Trust me, I get it.

I've seen videos of Israeli leaders calling for the total eradication of the Palestinian people as well. Unfortunately, you will always have the radicals on both sides making life harder for those who just want peace.

[WintersDaughter]

That's true.

Israeli leaders have never called for the eradication of Palestine, they've called for the eradication of Hamas and terrorist organizations

[David94358]

@WintersDaughter might be, do you like pizza, the outdoors, and gaming?

[DrPepper12]

CORRECT!

[WintersDaughter]

@David94358 I used to love pizza, but I'm now lactose intolerant 😭. I do love the outdoors and gaming!

[David94358]

@WintersDaughter yeah I can only have so much dairy as well. but I power through for pizza! Do you have a good sense of humor?

[WintersDaughter]

@David94358 Probably a bit too much, if I'm being honest lol

[David94358]

@WintersDaughter well we are clones.. wonder how many more of us there are out there?

[WintersDaughter]

@David94358 Hopefully enough to roleplay as the Clones from Star Wars

[David94358]

@WintersDaughter and now a star wars reference? no doubt about it at all.

[Agape93]

Hey there you are! Welcome back!

"Republicans"/conservatives: how can you claim you're the party of personal freedom and small government when you strip away women's reproductive rights and intentionally try to revictimize rape victim?

Pro choice without restriction.

Liberals: do not sit there and try to control what I can and cannot say. Tell me I can't speak how I want and I'll knock your fucking teeth out.

Freedom of speech, baby.

Democrats: I will use any method at my disposal to hunt and defend myself and my loved ones. I don't give a fuck if it makes you feel unsafe.

Pro second ammendment.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Thank you!

This. ALL OF THIS. Every party has flaws, which is why I stay centrist and just vote for the policies I agree with.

[Agape93]

Same. I'm a libertarian. Leave me and mine alone, I leave you alone. You support personal freedom, you got me.

[OtterMan68]

MAGA!

That MAGA will excuse Trump's obvious mental deterioration as "gaffes," but when Biden does it, it's senility.

Denyinig Trump is a pathological liar by excusing it as "exaggerations" or saying "all politicians lie."

Convincing themselves Trump is a Christian by saying "ignore his words and deeds! You don't know what's in his heart!"

Abandoning free-market capitalism.

Going full xenophobic.

Going full pro-Confederate

Accusing anyone that does not support Trump of being unpatriotic.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Fully agree here. I have conservative tendencies but definitely not of the MAGA type. It should never be about the policies of one man, but rather the ideals of the party.

I have a very good friend on here who is a Trump supporter and while I disagree with him politically, we are still very civil and check on each other. There are those who have been fully encapsulated by the cult of personality that is Trump and have decided to cut themselves off from the world outside of Fox News. Thankfully, my friend is not one of them.

[monorprise]

@OtterMan68
Political parties require devotees to do the excessive work and expensive of modern political campaigns. A fact democrats prove they are as extreme or worse on the other side.

In this regard Trump is admittedly not competent as a politician, he does indeed play that game very poorly in rubbing a lot of people the wrong way much to his needless detriment. Although the results Trump got both in office and in his private business prove he is a very competent and effective leader.

Which kind of highlights the failure of democracy in that it tends to favor people skilled in wining popularity contest over actually getting desirable results as the free market does.

[loveslongnails]

My biggest pet peeve is they want to make up their own facts and deny anything that doesn't fit their narrative, no matter what. For example, when arguing about energy prices or gas/oil production, they won't acknowledge the Dept of Energy's own numbers because "that's the government, and the government lies to us". So how about numbers from WSJ or Forbes? "No, they're owned by the leftist elite". Ok, so where are you getting YOUR facts from? " Un, the Heritage Foundation via Fox News, and I heard Trump say it too".

Need I say more?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Let's be honest that both sides do this, but I think it's because everything is bought and paid for by those with political interests of their own. Most people have formed an opinion from the start and support their evidence with some sort of biased reporting, scientific studies included.

Not saying there are not honest to goodness answers out there, but a lot of people tend to flock to whatever feeds their bias.

[loveslongnails]

Not in my example and here's why: The Dept of Energy takes its numbers directly from the sources producing them. They do not "fudge" information to make one political administration look better than the other, and you can see that if you look at numbers from the past 60 years. In FACT, the average length of service for a Department of Energy employee is 24.9 years, which means they serve over at LEAST three administrations or more. These are people who rarely get sacked, no matter WHAT the numbers say. Besides, there would be too many whistle blowers.

My point is their numbers are not politically adjusted. The same is true of the Congressional Budget Office when they report numbers, and/or make predictions and recommendations. So, when you want to look at the National Debt over a period of years, there's really only source - it's the Office of Management and Budget of the US Treasury. If they try to fudge THEIR numbers, they're going to need about 10 other offices to be in on the scheme.

Of course, people will try to find "evidence" that supports their pre-supposed position, but that's exactly my peeve. Your opinion should be formed AFTER you see facts and the truth of a situation, not before. If you make a claim to try and change someone's mind, or support your viewpoint, show them FACTS, not bullshit, not bias. Keep in mind, REAL science is designed to be unbiased, which is why it's so painstaking.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I agree that government numbers are more likely to be correct, but scientific studies, while they are supposed to be neutral, are still paid for by those with political interest. Take the Cass review for example.

[loveslongnails]

If a politically biased interest pays for research, they're going to want a certain outcome, as you say. But then it depends on who you hire. If you hire the Heritage Foundation, you can pre-order your outcome. If you try and hire The Pew Foundation with the understanding that you expect this or that, they'll decline and politely tell you to fuck yourself.

I can't speak to the Cass review as I have no knowledge of the case facts or how it was conducted, other than seeing the back and forth in the media, which is totally unreliable.

[bolverk]

I was once a supporter of the UK Labour Party, but since Tony Blair became the Prime Minister, the party started to change, It started moving away from its base in the Working Class (which made me withdraw from paying the political levy which the unions would donate to the Labour Party) and instead started chasing the Middle Class votes, and after that they have gone on to chase the 'WOKE' Champagne Socialists which caused me to cease voting for them and started voting on local issues not political parties.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Voting on the issues is how I feel we should be doing it. Party loyalty to a fault is just a cult with more steps.

[Flatmanlewis]

The absolute insistence that their opinion, values, and ideology be forced upon us and our children be indoctrinated into it by fiat.


The belief that feelings matter more than facts.


The idea that I owe sustenance for others who don’t work for it themselves.


The open mocking of beliefs and values they disagree with while demanding fealty for their own.


The ear splitting screaming & protests of their opinions and destruction of open dialogue.


Their censorship.


The way they decry racism while judging people based on their race.


The list just goes on.

[wiltingrosepetal]

I'm a centralist, can I answer both? Cool, okay!

Left - The warmth and love they preach goes completely counter to how they act. This overwhelming acceptance leads to pseudo segregation, outing celebrities for "queer baiting" and banning anyone who doesn't uphold their beliefs. Not very accepting, is it?

Right - Acting like they are the more sensible and intelligent party because they value money, police and chromosomes. But they're the first to denounce science at every opportinity 💀 it's not the liberals that say the coronavirus didn't happen.

[monorprise]

I can't stand the left for their blind adherence to some of the worse ideas in history has served to impoverish and enslave the people unlucky enough to to live under their domain.

That they like locust then carry on their failed ideas to other lands even after having been driven from their own by them is a reflection of this arrogance. Perhaps it is ignorance, or the blind devotion to the always out of reach utopian goals their power hungry authoritarian leaders promise them.

Thus we see in their extreme loyalty to their organization they know only defeat wherever they should "win".

[goaded]

The list is endless, but the worst is the undermining of the democratic process and rule of law.

Trump was entitled to challenge election results in the courts, but he should have accepted the judgements, not spent the next three years lying about the courts, the DoJ, etc.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

People like him know how to manipulate our justice system. Really anyone with money can hire the right people and never suffer penalties.

[goaded]

Never is a long time, but years or even decades...

At the moment he seems to be angling to get locked up for a few days for the donations (by breaking his gag order). MAGA Republicans will have a fit if he's treated even slightly like any other indicted defendent would be, but it might wake up some of the oldies who still remember the party claiming to be for the rule of law.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I agree I think he wants it but I don't think he could handle actual prison if he was in there for an extended period of time.

[goaded]

If and when the judge decides he broke the order, he should start with a fine (insignificant to Trump), but the next time should be weeks or months, with a warning. Hours or days would just be a fund-raising opportunity. Why not until the conclusion of the trial? That might concentrate his mind and shorten the trial.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

That or he will just have someone else post for him in prison. Then you get the nut jobs like the guy who set himself on fire, coming out of the woodwork for revenge against the judge.

[goaded]

It's like a mob trial, isn't it?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Basically, but he runs things like he is a mob boss anyway, and there will always be those bootlickers who serve him just to get a piece

[DrPepper12]

@goaded @Ez-Bri-Z_v2 I like the way you two think!

[monorprise]

@goaded
Although you seem to shrill for the democrats, they are not your political party as a German. Nor do you as a German seem to understand the concepts of American free speech or legal system. As you seem to think it acceptable to criminalize opposition speech and do not understand how our elections work.

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
Its not so much that Joe Biden a well enriched politician of 40+ years knows the courts but that his party is willing to abuse them in the areas they control. Which include New York city, and Atlanta George, as well as unconstitutionally Washington D. C.

The willingness to abuse thier power in coming up with entirely new applications of law to persecute their political enemies combined with total control of the local courts simply means in the short run they get whatever they want.

Knowing this they intentionally delayed their case for many years so that it would happen during an election year with the intent of abusing the same to interfere with said election.

A tacit Jack Smith had used on previous occasions such as against a former Virginia Govern. Thou ultimately it failed in the court it was successfully long enough o win them the election.

In this case they have already successfully taken Trump off the campaign trail and crippled his finances. Making it very difficult for him to get any kind of message out. Even thou they will lose in the long run they are likely to win the election regardless because of it.

[goaded]

@monorprise "Nor do you as a German seem to understand the concepts of American free speech or legal system." Of course I don't. It's totally incomprehensible to anyone who isn't American. It's not like I can read or anything.

Trump's been indicted; he's on pre-trial release only as long as he meets certain conditions set by the judges. That's normal.

[monorprise]

@goaded Being required for a month in a half to sit in new York during a presidential political campaign for a critical month and a half is unprecedented election interference. The fact that it is done on a trial that even if it were not fraudulent would have taken place many years ago is only evidence of the tottaly corrupt nature of the Democrat owned New York courts.

Who's have for years like any bandana republic exited simply to suppress political opposition rather than crime. The criminals after all are one of the ruling democrat's largest voting constituencies.

Regardless they have physically and financially crippled the republican campaign as intended. As no real presidential campaign in hisotry has ever been successful running from a single location without money. Well that is with the exclusive exception of "Joe Biden 2020 campaign".

There is nothing even remotely normal about any of thees trials, not the way they are conduced least of all the never before seen application of said "laws" that were allegedly broken by their political enemies.

Democrats like to tell themselves and others that this is unique to Trump, but there is nothing to stop their leaders from doing the same to anyone else. And they will, after all they can always claim some special exception. That is what banana republic dictators regularly do every 'election'.
It is by theses means that we are now a bandana republic.

[goaded]

@monorprise If you can't do the time...

The trial (which is not "fraudulent") is only happening so late because Trump intentionally delayed it as long as he could. He was indicted over a year ago and could have got it over and done with last year. Innocent people don't behave like that.

No president has ever broken so many laws, but many people have stolen government documents, mishandled them, lied to federal agents, falsified business records, broken election financing laws, conspired to interfere in elections, etc. What are really new are the cases where a sitting president conspired to steal the presidency. That really is unique to Trump.

(You know it's "banana republic", right?)

[monorprise]

Not true @goaded in each case your talking about alleged crimes requiring very creative misinterpretation of existing laws which have never been applied as such before.

Further still theses cases are being brought to trial in the middle of an election when the supposed incidents happened many years ago in some cases many decades ago. New York actually changed their law specifically to allow such cases to be brought soo long after.

[goaded]

@monorprise I guess you're talking about the cases Trump already lost, when you say "New York actually changed their law specifically to allow such cases to be brought soo long after.". A jury decided he sexually assaulted (digitally raped) E. Jean Carroll. The defamation, by the way, is still ongoing.

Trump, it will be proved, falsified business records, a misdemeanor. But he did it to cover up a felony, making it a felony. I bet you think Al Capone got a bum deal, too.

Again, the four impeachments were last year, they could all have gone to trial last year, but Trump delayed them until now. I know if I were innocent, I'd pay millions to lawyers to keep the process going for a year, wouldn't you?

[monorprise]

@goaded A jury in a city which has only 10% of the population as republicans would convict a Republican President of anything with or without any evidence and there was none after such a long time.

Its worth noting the same E. Jean Carroll also claims to have been assaulted by other famous people Leslie Roy Moonves, as well as being a famous anti-male person herself having run a column for 17 years in New York between 1993 and 2020.
Both of which suggest she is either lying to raise her profile, or really good at getting in to such situations despite having spent 2 decades "giving related advice".

In any-case being a very public and controversial figure, her making a defamation suit against anyone is no different than Trump making a defamation suite against you. You have indeed sad as bad things about Trump, as have countless people said about her.

[goaded]

@monorprise You really can't concieve of anyone being able to put aside their political views and decide on the facts? Tell that to the MAGA hat-wearing jurist who voted to convict Bannon.

[ChicoFromThe305]

That they are just puppets, they are never truly in control and they are an illusion to make people believe they have a choice and they have a say on who and what has control over a certain population when in reality they are just puppets that are used to control the population and brainwash them

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

So true in the end.

[DrPepper12]

I abhor religions and MAGAism is a cult.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I, myself, am agnostic and agree that both are cults. Unfortunately, cults are the refuge of the lost. They want a place to feel like they belong.

[DrPepper12]

Yup! I LOVE that phrase "refuge of the lost". I'm SO stealing that!

[itsclearlynicholas]

I probably as a foreigner find it ironic when I look over at the Americans or Americano lol I think to myself a few things, mostly, that it must suck how there are politicians who think abortion legal abortion by medical professionals should be non existent, that if they had their way condoms and lube wouldn't be openly sold lol or even pregnancy tests lol, and that everything should be old and stuffy like a bygone era. So yeah. I'm a leftie. I always have a better spring in my step most days for being leftie 😬🤭

[itsclearlynicholas]

And that's before getting into how those on conservative or traditional or moderate sides of political parties are so, either fake, or they double standard. 🧐😂🧐 Or even backtrack or renegade on their own previous or you know. Just consistency is fickle lol 😆 even though they'll say or write " oh but " lol.

[itsclearlynicholas]

Lol consistency is like the word fair. Lol. Ah well ❤️‍🩹 lol 😆

[Anonymous]

That they claim gender is a social construct and there’s no differences between genders and they don’t matter, while also claiming it’s super important that people (including children) get to be the gender they feel they are and are called by the right pronoun and not misgendered.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I don't personally mind it. I mean, you'd want to be called she because you are female, right? They aren't hurting anyone and probably know themselves better than we do.

I probably shouldn't say this, but neo pronouns are what give me pause. There's way too many of them and half of them don't make sense in my opinion.

[DrPepper12]

I'm liberal AF and I'm tired of the trans n pronoun n bathroom bs. There's bigger issues

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yep, and it's radical right Republicans who are making it an issue just to give their base a boogeyman.

[Dargil]

My beef about Republicans is that they have no balls and are too indecisive.
My beef against Democrats is that they hate America and promote Evil.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

And some would say the same thing about both parties the other way around. It's kind of funny.

What specifically do you think Democrats do that promotes evil?

My beef with Republicans is similar in that they aren't decisive and bend to a singular person in Trump when they used to have better morals. I remember when they turned on Nixon, one of their own, even if it took them a while to get there. You had some Republicans willing to stand against Trump and they lost/quit their positions. The rest just fell in line and lost any credibility.

[DrPepper12]

Id like to hear more about this evil too

[Dargil]

"What specifically do you think Democrats do that promotes evil?"
1. They support infanticide up to AFTER delivery.
2. They endorse Hamas' genocide.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

1. That's simply just not true, just a republican talking point to scare it's supporters into hating Democrats.

[Dargil]

Republicans don't hate Democrats. We pity them. My two assertions are factually correct. They promote late term abortion (infanticide). Promotion of Hamas is all over the news.

[DrPepper12]

Unplug fox '"news" for your own benefit. Aren't you embarrassed to be this publicly wrong?

[Dargil]

@DrPepper12 I don't care about foxes. I prefer bobcats.

[TommyMountainFigure]

There is no party I can say has my political belief. They are only concerned with getting into power. Once in, they ALL do what they want!

The more people ram Far Left Policies down my throat, the more I become Far Right. That's all I'm prepared to say about my political beliefs!

[Serkee]

I'd say my biggest pet peeve is their constant push to disarm the populace, while ignoring actual violence. It seems the only people they want to disarm are law abiding citizens.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'm more of a centrist, but I do believe in 2A rights. I'm also not opposed to tighter restrictions on them though. We require testing for a drivers license, so why not owning a gun at the very least. I don't feel we need to be taking people's guns away though.

[Serkee]

I don't think we need tighter restrictions at all, I think they're more than tight enough. Keeping and bearing arms is a right, driving isn't. A car is far more dangerous and destructive than a gun. When the second amendment was written, fishermen had mounted artillery on their boats.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Fair enough. We have a right to disagree 😊

[DrPepper12]

Insurance. Insurance isn't a big ask for manufacturers and consumers of guns / ammo. My take anyway

[NathanDavis]

I don't bother with political parties... I rather be happier

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Smart move 😉

[CriticalCatDad123]

The democrats are for guilty until proven innocent. That’s what got me to lean Republican at first. The democrat left did the rest to swing me all the way to the right with their hateful manipulative rhetoric filled with absolute carelessness and ridicule of anyone against their precious narrative.

[juliaanita]

I love your question ezbrz2! I am really trying to be just a little apolitical this season as it brings so much personal conflict and tension! But keep up the good work sister!

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Thank you very much! I completely understand wanting to stay apolitical. It's a lot of stress and does cause conflict.

[Kaneki05]

Umm Everything? If your views come from before late 1900s you annoy me because society was in much worst place if you don't agree then that also explains why you failed history.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Lol fair point. I definitely don't want to regress as a society but unfortunately there are those out there who are saddened to learn time machines don't exist so they can go to a time where they had more power, so they are trying to drag our society back down that path, kicking and screaming.

[Kaneki05]

Exactly so that's all I see really. I ain't saying they aren't new views that could be toxic and there for sure will and has been, but would rather live now or back then the answer is obvious to anyone who's done research.
And like you say that's another point people who would want to go back might not be ignorant but think it will be better for them personally which without saying it we know who would that be for.