What will you do whern Trump loses?

[Anonymous]

Whine about supposed election fraud? Start a war? Help with his 2028 campaign? What?

[Anonymous]

No matter who wins there will be significant election fraud, most voters agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5LHr5ZoCzk

I honestly think the best path forward is to continue to work to mobilize our states against Washington to cripple its ability to impose upon us and be ready for the day we can take advantage of it's incompetents and free ourselfs from it.

We are already making great progress in that area, a Harris victory will help us galvanize more support in that effort. In the long run that is what is going to restore our civilization not anything Washington D. C. does.
A president is at best a band-aid, he can solve some problems in the short term but really doesn't have the power to address the major issues.

[NaultD]

Just threatening to take away the social security checks of treasonous civil war activity will dismantle the war effort.

You'd think elon Musk will pay you fair wages? How about don himself? Any millionaire who activity cheating on taxes. Who think military servicemen chumps. Those are the people worth fighting for.

[Opinion Owner]

@NaultD I'm afraid that's not the plan although I would not be surprised if there are even more interest in active secessionist movements building on what already exist. This does not believe it or not really make a difference to the plan as Washington D. C. loses either way.

As I have said for a year or more now it doesn't matter who win's the 2024 presidential election.

if anything the enormous weight and cost of the Federal welfare state is enormous advantage to making the plan work by putting the federal goverment in a effectively impossible situation of democrat's own making.

[MisterWack]

@NaultD They know it is fake,
My table of truth about everything on Trump as a former Trump supporter stands firm against their lies. Once they can’t defend it anymore, they move the goal post trying to weasel out of it, I’ve seen it time and time again. I stand with the facts, they move the goal post and they know they are liars. Anything to deflect blame from their orange leader.

Guess what? Biden is cognitively disabled, he is a criminal, he is awful… JUST LIKE TRUMP though Trump’s crime is far greater and Biden is no longer running. Hillary Clinton isn’t running… It is Kamala Harris. No more ‘whataboutism’ when it comes to Trump, they can no longer push the blame to someone else. What about Joe’s crime? What about Joe’s documents? What about Joe’s son guilty? What about Joe’s… Well guess what, She’s Not Joe! She’s Not Joe! Put your lies where your mouth is and vote for the non criminal if you truly feel that way.

[Opinion Owner]

@MisterWack Although your political posturing about individuals really doesn't have much to do with the suggested plan. I would like to give you credit for finally recognizing Biden is cognitively unable to executive the duties of the office of president.

If you had been honest about that 4 years ago or Kamala anytime since, it would have spared America from countless high risk dramas that has happened since.

Instead by deliberately ignoring the issue you played with nuclear fire gambling on a man in Joe Biden's conditions would be able to do the right thing at that 3am phone call. We are lucky to be alive, and that Putin as it turns out doesn't want a nuclear war and is quite sane contrary to western propaganda.

As for the plan we are working on regardless this depends upon State leaders and population willing to push the edge.

[Asker]

Nobody starts a nuclear war on the word of one man in the US. It is a lot more complicated than that.

[Opinion Owner]

If that man is the president, his poorly considered reactions can easily escalate a situation to the point of a nuclear exchange.

[Asker]

Right., Election fraud by Republicans like always

[Opinion Owner]

Since you shifted the subject from the risk Biden's mental state posed to the country to elections.

On that topic it don't much matter whom you beleive will commit the fraud as Im sure you would not be as much concerned about Democrat fraud. Your right thou, Republican will build Fraud machines to counter Democrat fraud machines they believe exist.
So in the end unless you have transparent easily verifiable and understandable elections it really doesn't matter if you think fraud currently exist or has in the past exist. It will soon enough.

[Asker]

Probably not.

[Opinion Owner]

Keep telling yourself that, but already most Americans disagree. A situation that is not likely to improve so long as election processes remain so unverifiable and complex.

It is almost impossible to know for sure what happened in its various black boxes, and the parties in charge of the whole process have every motivation in the world to engage in mischief

[Asker]

As I said before, you would need to change a huge number of votes to affect the results in any election that might be of interest to a person who wanted to change the results. After you did this, you would be caught because it would be very obvious what it happened. There is no significant motivation at all. There is only your fear and your cult programming.

[Opinion Owner]

Given the way some key states manage their 'elections' changing or manufacturing a huge number of votes would not be difficult.

[Asker]

When and where has that been done in the US? What would be the exact method of "manufacturing" or "changing" votes?

[Opinion Owner]

That depends on the State, some states can be stolen as simply as vote harvesting.
In other states such as those by mail they can intercept and alter votes easy enough.
In still other states the rules there of permit large scale fabrication of votes.
While in still others the rules allow you to automatically create new voters and have the state send you the ballots to simply be filled out and cast.
Still others are careless enough to leave far too many old voters on the roles who's votes can be cast for them.

[Asker]

Sure, I reiterate. Where and when has that been done in the United States? Just because you can imagine it doesn't mean that it's a practical possibility. I can imagine all kinds of things that are not practical. Just because I can imagine them, that doesn't mean that they can be done in the real world. So again, where exactly in the US have your election fraud fantasies been realized in reality?

[Opinion Owner]

We believe it was done in many elections including 2020 and 2022, unfortunately the records require to verify the same were not collected or retained. So we will never know, and the elections system of theses states are unverifiable.

[Asker]

You "believe" it was done. Well, friend, your beliefs are not sufficient to warrant major changes in our election systems.

Produce some verifiable evidence or give up harping on this. It is not going to happen.

[Opinion Owner]

Yet apparently a desire for a few more people who are otherwise too apathetic to get off their butts and register and show up to vote much less learn what they are voting for are.

We didn't make the system unverifiable, Leftist did over our objections. The quality of elections has predictably gone down with the apathy of the electorate.

[Asker]

Nobody was whining about verification or the need to vote in person until the Orange asshole decided that immigrants hated him so much that they all committed election fraud and voted illegally, and/or he decided that having too many people voting would reveal his unpopularity; he might actually be right about this, and too bad for him if he is.

The system has been unverifiable for at least 100 years because it has grown so large as has this country. You do not get to decide to impose voting restrictions on people because some elections have not gone your way or because elections upset the Orange asshole.

[Opinion Owner]

Where have you been? Election integrity and voter ID has been an issue for decades:
www.nbcnews.com/.../flurry-voter-id-laws-tied-conservative-group-alec-flna955652

[MisterWack]

Celebrate Good Times Come On! 🥳🎉🎊

I did that after electing President Biden,

Will do that after Harris & Walz 2024! 🇺🇸🫂

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8jTt7GGMOLU

I’m a former Trump supporter and he is unfit to be President, luckily President Biden will be leaving either way so… Make it the woman who has longer experience in politics, younger, wiser, and who doesn’t spend her life on Twitter spreading hate. I support her policies & Walz’s policies also history of achievement these past few years.

Dump Trump! 🇺🇸❤️🤍💙🫡

🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[MisterWack]

Just a little reminder:
Inconsistencies at the first debate regarding January 6th 2021, one of the many powers that a President has is MOVING TROOPS without Congress’ permission however can’t declare war without Congress’ permission. In the debate, Trump admitted that he controlled the National Guard to control a peaceful protest on the streets so, he could do a photo-op holding a Bible upside down. “It’s a Bible”(when asked by press if it was his). So to lie that Nancy Pelosi had some sort of power stronger than POTUS is a lie. In addition, Trump during the debate ADMITTED he knew that chaos would attack the Capitol yet still provided the buses to his supporters to get to the Ellipse, still told his people to go to the Capitol, and still Tweeted “Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
AND THIS, “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

The local law enforcement officials were trying to contact POTUS for permission to send the troops on January 6th after seeing the vicious mob and Trump & The White House refused to answer the phones. Vice President Mike Pence was the one that afternoon to call to action permission to send the National Guard. Mike Pence allowed the National Guard proving that Trump had those powers too and chose not to.

Mike Pence On J6
https://youtu.be/aWic0DbFuoA?

Mike Pence Meeting The National Guard
https://youtu.be/6-AAFnIWTkE?

[Asker]

Very good. I think for the most part we are going to have a national if not a worldwide party. After Trump loses and loses badly. It's ironically appropriate that a woman is going to clean his clock so to speak.

[MisterWack]

I want the GOP to succeed, we can’t run a country when only one party is united. We need both parties working together. Surprisingly Biden got more done with less of a majority than Trump was handed in his presidency yet got sh*t done passing policies Trump failed to deliver on which no one talks about. I hold Trump accountable for being poison to his party and I pray that come November and Trump goes to prison or retirement home I pray that his party becomes less hateful, less vengeful, less moronic, and more functional / moderate.

[Asker]

From your pen to God's ear hopefully.

[Agape93]

Oh they'll bitch about fraud and stolen elections. Again. Like fucking tools.

[cheapshotbob]

Just like you did when Trump won both sides do it. why are you acting like you never did that? you're about as pathetic as a trump supporters 😂

[Agape93]

Huh?

[cheapshotbob]

he know like when people acted when Trump won they started screaming and standing in places outside their places of work or whatever acting like little children.

That's exactly what you did when Trump won and they're going to act the same way but I doubt Kamala Harris will win.

but it could go either way I guess, but you're being silly

[Agape93]

The hell are you even talking about?

[SweetJoyGirl]

Not care.
Neither candidates are appealing to me.

[Twalli]

Trump will probably be too old in 2028. If Biden was too old now, Trump will be too old then. Also, if the Musk interview is how he now sounds without a speech he's too old now. Nobody who slurs his words that much should be in control of heavy machinery or make important legal decisions. The latter of which is the job of the president.

[hello123456789]

I am going to eat, sleep, work, and pay my taxes. It doesn't matter who wins or loses I will be doing the same things that I always do.

[cheapshotbob]

The crime rate will go higher than it did in the past 4 years with Biden, missing children will increase due to unchecked criminal reports because of The new president.

The police will be defunded more so we won't have to do anything. Kamala Harris would do everything for us, so enjoy the chaos you're bringing into this country with your your anti-American sentiment.

[Asker]

Well, I will say this for you. You certainly have an appropriate screen name given the kind of crap you write.

[AviatorTom]

Whoever wins, the country will survive, not much will really change. No sense getting upset over something I have no control over, especially when not much changes.

[NOTHINGEVERHAPPENS]

If you’re lucky enough to get the election results that night, I’ll probably be sound asleep in my not-third world hellhole.

[exitseven]

I will continue to be part of the resistance.

[Oliverlogan263]

Good riddance to bad rubbish is what I say

[smurfwrangler]

welp. time for the first female president