So…how’d the debate go? I may have been passed out high af…?

[OddBeMe]

Trump Won, obviously

Harris Won

Ehh…

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Heard something about “eating pets”…gonna guess Kamala.

[ProbablyClueless]

It was definitely an "eh." About the eating pets thing; that was a comment regarding some Haitians, I think? I was a little bit surprised to see both candidates giving a whole bunch of word salad. A lot more lies from Kamala, lots of puffery from Trump.

The thing that made it really stupid was that Trump made a comment about the Haitians, and then some dipshit responds that there's no record of Haitians eating pets. Why the fuck would there EVER be a record of that? Who would bother to keep track of that? 😂

It was just a really stupid exchange.

[goaded]

There would be a record because there would be a police complaint, for theft, if nothing else.

Please do tell us what "lies" Harris told.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Google it yourself

[goaded]

"It"? Oh, yes, there was one.



I just wondered what it was.

[goaded]

I looked. It was when she said "that former President Donald Trump’s policies would result in a “Trump sales tax” that would raise prices for middle class families by about $4,000 a year."

Why is that a "lie"? Only one study calculates it at $3,900 (isn't that "about $4,000"?) and two other studies say lesser amounts, but still at least "$1,350 a year for middle-income households."

Want to look at Trump's 33? They're very different. Actual lies, in fact.

“I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,” Trump said.

Facts First: This is false. Cumulative inflation over the course of Trump’s presidency was about 7.8%.

Trump [has] often alleged that jails and mental institutions are being emptied out deliberately to somehow dump people upon the US.

Facts First: There is no evidence for Trump’s claim.

“21 million people” are crossing the border monthly into the United States under President Joe Biden.

Facts First: This number is false. The total number of “encounters” at the northern and southern borders from February 2021 through July 2024, at both legal ports of entry and in between those ports, was roughly 10 million, far less than Trump’s “21 million” figure.

You can read the rest here, but you won't.
edition.cnn.com/.../index.html

[exitseven]

the cops have an arrest record of two of them catching ducks and geese. It is not impossible that they are eating dogs and cats too,

[exitseven]

@goaded That Trump gave up 5000 prisoners to the Taliban, that Trump is going to implement Project 2025, that Trump is going to sign a national abortion ban, that nobody is aborting babies in the 9th month, That Trump caused the mess at the border and the often debunked favorite among the low info crowd that Trump said there were good people on both sides. I could go on but you get the idea. Nobody fact checked her. It turns out that nobody was fooled.

[OddBeMe]

No one is aborting fetuses in the 3rd trim unless it's a medical emergency

[goaded]

@exitseven Pet ducks and geese, or wild ones? All you're saying is that they were hunting without a licence, maybe out of season. It's a hell of a leap, not to say a lie, to claim they did anything to a pet.

[goaded]

@exitseven Trump did release 5000 Taliban prisoners, it's a well documented fact!
www.snopes.com/.../
"In early December 2022, we received inquiries from readers who asked if it was true that former U. S. President Donald Trump's administration had previously agreed to an exchange that released 5,000 Taliban prisoners. They also wanted to know if Trump had at one time planned to invite Taliban leaders to Camp David.

We soon found that all of this was true."

It's speculation whether Trump will implement Project 2025, but he did implement two thirds of the last plan the Heritage Foundation handed him. Definitely not a lie.

Nobody is just choosing to abort babies in the 9th month, it would have to be a medical emergency, and Trump's claim that people are killing babies after they're born is quite simply a disgusting lie.

Trump did say "there were very fine people on both sides". Again, that's a fact. I've heard it, you've heard it. If she'd said he called Nazis "very fine people", she'd have been wrong, he was just talking about people standing with Nazis. Snopes: "virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong."

[OddBeMe]

@goaded are all pets imprisoned?

[goaded]

They're not living wild, that's for sure. Domesticated ones, perhaps.

[OddBeMe]

Wow trump opened a huge conspiracy

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe. In Minnesota there were 8 babies that survived an abortion and were killed after the fact Ask Tim Walz about it since he was governor at the time

[goaded]

@exitseven No, that's a lie. There were 8 babies that survived an abortion but died after the fact. They were not "killed".

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven false. You guys aren’t even trying and Trump has already lost. I’m bored now.
“Of the 12,175 abortions performed in Minnesota in 2022, two happened between weeks 25 and 30 of pregnancy, according to an annual report from the Minnesota Department of Health. Some abortions have happened at week 31 or later – 11 between 2002 and 2022, state data show.”

www.twincities.com/.../

[RavVid]

Ehh... there is something seriously wrong with Harris's neck.

I got distracted by it when it cut to her hoping for a clearer look at it and forgot listen to what she said.

See pic
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/461267186853161391/

[msc545]

That is shadow - lighting was bad.

[RavVid]

@msc545 It is more than shadow and shooting from above. It is really quite odd. Sure skin becomes less taut as people age but this is very unusual.

[msc545]

Let us hope it is nothing serious.

[RavVid]

@msc545 It might be stress and pronounced anxiety. It was showing up in a very pronounced way during a post debate TV interview.

[RavVid]

I've only ever seen anything like in extreme anger which is why I think stress/anxiety.

[OddBeMe]

(Checking my neck) I don’t see anything…….

[msc545]

Really? Are you a dermatologist?

[OddBeMe]

And were not comparing trumps orange skin... why?

[RavVid]

It is gingist to discriminate against gingas, particularly from a white guy. It is not on.

[RavVid]

@msc545 Doubt it falls within dermatology but I am not a dermatologist.

[msc545]

I'm not sure what you're looking at but her neck looks normal to me.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 jabba is back!

[Anonymous]

Trump got destroyed lol. The "attacks" on Trump were him being called out for lying instead of letting him get away with it. Fake news.

[mandyfire98]

He has a concept of a plan, so he's got that going for him lol.

[OddBeMe]

Eating pets?

[mandyfire98]

That's the one. Stopping all the Haitians eating all of our pets apparently

[OddBeMe]

Trumps only plan is whatever his aides put in front of him.

[mandyfire98]

His aides have to be pretty inept then. Because they are screwing him over big time

[exitseven]

Everyone is talking about eating pets. There has been two arrests for people catching and killing geese and ducks. There are pictures of people cooking an animal on a tree branch. It is hard to see if it was a racoon or a fox or maybe somebody's pet. J. D. Vance is looking into it since it is his home state. This is not just a rumor.

[OddBeMe]

My god... two people? How many young girls being married off in religious cultures?

[exitseven]

two people that have been arrested. How many people have gotten away with it? What happens when a little kid ends up in the stew pot?

[OddBeMe]

My god. The horror. Wait what about business fraud?

[lightbulb27]

@OddBeMe
abcnews.go.com/.../ohio-sending-troopers-25-million-city-inundated-haitian-113565963
video not about eating animals although seen multiple videos about them slaughtering ducks. They don't know or follow the laws.
This video confirms, people driving not knowing the laws. They just take the people out of Haiti (or they escape), give them permits and turn them loose. I'd bet $500,000 they don't have insurance, registration. You wouldn't want this in your area either.

[exitseven]

I did not hear anything about business fraud. Were the Haitians selling the ducks?

[OddBeMe]

I would wonder... what would Canada do if america collapsed and a bunch of Americans refugees arrived. mounties would be all over us...

[lightbulb27]

Would they offer free Canadian Goose all you can eat buffet and free sex change operations? I hear they are closing their border to migrants, so may never know.
I wonder why Brussels is saying not to send migrants there when it's their policy to force Eu members to take them? How does that make sense... Mayor Adams has been taking migrants for years, but recently said as well...'NYC is closed!'.
apnews.com/.../eu-hungary-migration-bus-convoy-migrants-schengen-e7173d523ff8e247a59b54f234c359b6
Reality is, it's a difficult issue and global. there's no easy answers to social problems. It seems people are leaving for America and Europe, where life is better. They are not going to Arabia... Dubai maybe has enough slaves now, Venezuela, or Africa. Why is it such a mess where they live? That be the question.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe I imagine that there is not a single country in the world that would welcome Americans in and sign them all up for free stuff and let them commit all kinds of crimes without any consequences.

[exitseven]

@lightbulb27 The smart thing would have been not to let them in in the first place. However when did democrats become smart?

[OddBeMe]

How many whites have hurt pets? Confirmation racist

[msc545]

If there is such a thing as winning a debate, Harris certainly won this one. Trump managed to make a complete ass out of himself as usual. He is mostly incoherent and repetitive and seems unable to respond to questions in any reasonable way. There were points at which you could see Harris looking at Trump with pity and I found myself pitying him as well.

[OtterMan68]

Trump ranted and looked like a grumpy old man. He couldn't handle a debate where he was fact-checked. Harris laughing at him helped her

[exitseven]

The thing is, Trump was fact checked, Harris was not.
The fact checkers were wrong when they said that nobody aborts a live fetus. The truth is there are 8 states that allow this and it was done 8 times in Walz's home state of Minnesota.
Harris would not answer the question whether or not she would allow an abortion after the 7th, 8th or 9th month. She did not answer any question of substance and the moderators asked her no follow up questions like they did with Trump. It was a total hit job but Trump nailed it in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-kQ2Ya2yNs

[Anonymous]

Kamala would never survive a 3-on-1 attack the way Trump did

she'll have to bring out the race card, the sex card and the queer card to survive that

[OddBeMe]

3 on 1? The moderator?

[msc545]

Probably that is what was meant. Of course all the maga people on here have to figure out a way to defend Trump or at least defend his performance which was pitiful. Remember that they are rather pitiful themselves so don't expect much.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 whether you believe Trump's performance was pitiful or not, you'd have to have blinders on to think Harris was on some masterclass level not answering questions, deflecting and spewing word salads with a smile that has apparently hypnotized you

fact of the matter is it was a 3 on 1
fact of the matter is Trump got all his points across whereas Harris didn't
fact of the matter is you don't need this debate to determine who to vote for when the records of both candidates speak for themselves

under Trump there were more jobs, lower cost of living, lower crime rates, no wars etc.
under Harris (who supported Biden by the way) there was more homelessness, more crime and higher cost of living from petrol, to groceries to electricity etc. not to mention Russia invading Ukraine, the Israel/Palestine conflict, Taliban completely takes over Afghanistan and lord knows what the hell China and North Korea have planned for Taiwan and South Korea

[OddBeMe]

Oh true, kamala did dodge a lot. Trump just talked eating pets. Mmm? Who should I vote for?

[Opinion Owner]

cut the BS. everyone on this site knows you're gonna vote for the Democrats regardless of who the Republican nominee is

and they were eating pets but let mainstream Marxist media try to cover up the story from the public like they tried to cover up the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre

[OddBeMe]

When you fucks nominate a criminal set assaulter... I have no choice.

[msc545]

I don't respond to anonymous posts. Have the guts to put your name on what you write or STFU.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 "I don't respond to anonymous posts"

sure, we believe you lol

[Opinion Owner]

doesn't matter. if it were Ron Desantis, Tulsi Gabbard or Vivek Ramaswamy you'd still vote for Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. you're not fooling anyone here

[msc545]

Of course I would, I don't vote for fascists or racists.

[Opinion Owner]

@msc545 and how has Joe Biden been thus far?

[OddBeMe]

He's saved us from trumps covid economy.

[Juxtapose]

Trump was debating against three people and he still came out on top pretty handily. Not nearly as clearly as with Biden but he still clocked them.

[Juxtapose]

Oh and by the way, he wasn't lying about the pets.

https://youtu.be/gBH3iEELXlo?si=PCEx6vQ-KchYIjwX

[Juxtapose]

https://youtu.be/uNGfB7Vk_II?si=8As3ObZkIaSJlGA1

[goaded]

Ducks are pets, now? Your other video of the same even identified the first speaker as an "influencer". They never tell fibs to get attention.

[Juxtapose]

In a way, they are the pets of the public. People go to these parks and feed the ducks and would be distressed if somebody started randomly killing them like some third world savage.

I don't care what you think of YouTubers because you trust corporate media which is inherently much less trustworthy.

[goaded]

No, it's not, because the media is held accountable. Like when Fox had to pay out nearly $800 million for lying about the 2020 election. I don't see Tim Pool retracting any of the videos he made for Russia.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded oh give me a break, like CNN is held liable for all of their lies? Fox News is targeted specifically because they are conservative. When was the last time a major far left outlet was held responsible? Like let's say Al Jazeera?

Tim didn't make videos in favor of Russia and as a watcher of his I can tell you that his content is usually pretty reasonable. For example, saying that Ukraine becoming a NATO country right next to Russia is a threat to Russia because NATO was formed to combat the Soviet Union. No brainer.

[goaded]

CNN never claimed anything like a company's systems were hacked without evidence. That's why they've never been sued so badly.

Al Jazeera "a major far left outlet"? Are you insane? It's the mouthpiece for a Muslim country's government. As far right as you can get!

Tim Pool claimed Ukraine is an enemy to the United States. Bullshit. And $100,000 a week from Russia makes everything he says suspect. Even if he believes the shit he's selling, they love him for it.

[Juxtapose]

They have claimed far worse.

Yes they absolutely are. They fund The Young Turks who are as far left as it can get.

They absolutely are the enemy because they take our money and launder it to criminal Nazis. And these are allegations that have yet to be proven in a court of law. Given the previous Russia hoaxes, I am skeptical.

[goaded]

Sigh. Your incorrect information is also about 11 years out of date. "TYT moved to Roku after being forced off Current TV when it was purchased by Al Jazeera, which classified TYT as “political commentary rather than reporting/analysis.”"
venturebeat.com/.../
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfJcyDmZHu0

Apparently you can't concieve that Pool might be lying to you in exchange for $100,000 a week from Russia.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded doesn't change the fact that they still worked for them and were perfectly fine with it.

You mean like how corporate media lies to you for far more per week? You would also damn Dave Rubin in that accusation and he is a moderate liberal. It's preposterous.

[goaded]

They worked for a company that had been bought by Al Jazeera for six months 11 years ago, until they got dropped by the new owners. You're nuts.

Dave Rubin isn't a "moderate liberal", and yes, he took money from Russia, too.

[Juxtapose]

Real hardcore Muslims would not let radical liberals work under them for even a day. My point is proven.

Dave Rubin is a classical liberal and what you are saying is alleged. You don't even know if he knew that money came from Russia or not.

[goaded]

Your claim was that Al Jazeera is far left and the TYT work for them. Both parts are untrue, although I will grant that Al Jazeera is slightly left of centre.

[OddBeMe]

If left of center means the right wing media is off their rocker

[Anonymous]

Harris did better than I was expecting, but still had a shitty debate performance, not as shitty as Trump's performance, but still shitty. No one realistically won the debate, but you can bet the American people lost.

[Still-alive]

people with a brain know she creamed him. anyone voting he one are just coping. he lost big time.

[Enginn]

I think Trump will fight Putin better than Harris

[OddBeMe]

If fight really means suck cock