Will israel ever live without wars?

[Light_beam]

[ManOnFire]

This won't happen because the surrounding nations are the ones who keep plotting against them or attacking. It's ironic to me how the world feels like what Israel does in defense is an unfair ball game and that they're breaking so many international rules, but no one ever says a thing about all the rules Hamas and Hezbollah have broken for years. But because Israel strikes back, everyone wants to say they're going too far.

Think about it: at some point a nation gets tired of repeated damage and injury when their neighbor keeps on hitting at them, whether it's once every month or once every few years. You get tired. And you get tired of the political BS from the international community "urging restraint." Nothing gets done about that bad neighbor throwing bombs into your yard, but because you get tired of it and you blow up their whole house, everyone says you're bad because you chose not to take it anymore.

[Light_beam]

Those neighbors will never accept israel.. So Israel will be at status of war for ever..

[ManOnFire]

@Light_beam That's right, they never will. And it's completely okay if you're not religious and don't believe in the Bible, and you are not required to agree with me, but I will say this anyway: the Old Testament tells us that Israel will always be at war "with his brothers" and they with him because of Abraham listening to his wife and not the promise from God. From Abraham and Hagar came Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. And from Abraham and Sarah came Isaac, the father of the Jews.

The Arabs hate the Jews and want to destroy them, so they will keep trying. But the OT tells us Israel will never be destroyed because they still have the promise of God.

[Light_beam]

Arabs never hated the Jews for just being Jews , every arab country had jews living there for hundreds of years , they were not destroyed or killed , they lived at peace until the zionism and what happned in palastine later which made arabs not ok with them ,, this is history.. We hate the pariah state of Israel.. not the jews.. Israel occupy lands and kill people.. I believe in the bible but what you mentioned is not the true bible.. it was rewritten multiple times with huge changes.. So i don't recognize what you call the promise of God to them..
and in that so called promised lands , it contains areas of iraq, egypt, syria and more.. Do you support israel to fight all these countries to get this promised lands?

[ManOnFire]

@Light_beam The Ottoman Empire took over Israel aka the Holy Land and in that age Arabs migrated there and created what they call Palestine. When the Jewish state was established, the Jews offered a two-state agreement, which these Arabs rejected. The Arabs then went on to start killing Jewish settlers. And it's been this way ever since.

"I believe in the bible but what you mentioned is not the true bible.. it was rewritten multiple times with huge changes.."
- People always say the Bible we have now isn't true when there are things in it we don't like. Even for me as a believer there are parts of it I don't like, but just because I don't doesn't mean it isn't true. And God wouldn't be so careless as to let his word be mishandled for ages and cause millions of people to be deceived and never know the real truth.

"Do you support israel to fight all these countries to get this promised lands?"
- Those aren't their promised lands, only the land the Israelis are living in now. God never promised Egypt, Iraq, etc. to the Jews. Only the land of Canaan. And that's all the Jewish people are asking for.

[Light_beam]

Very mistaken about who did what and when Arabs came to these lands. Arabs lived there after the islamic state pushed away the romans 637 AC.. They lived together with christians and jews there..

The promised lands is from the Nile of Egypt to Euphrates of Iraq..

[ManOnFire]

@Light_beam That history does not much matter. What does is what "Palestinians" were doing to Jewish settlers when a two-state offer was given, and the "Palestinians" rejected that and decided to kill Jews instead. Even the other Arab nations don't want Palestinians around and they haven't done anything to fight for them in this war. In the 80s the Palestinians even tried to topple the Jordanian government. The Jordanians killed around 15,000 Palestinians, and no one called that a genocide. But now that so many have died in this Gaza war, everyone is calling it a genocide.

That's not what God promised the Jews, and certainly NOT as far as the Euphrates in Iraq. God promised them the small area that they have now, while the rest of the middle eastern nations are significantly large, especially Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

[razelove]

You could ask that about any country. Shift your focus from Israel over to Africa and tell me when the map has been static in that direction for even a decade.

[NamerOfStars]

That depends entirely on whether its neighbors stop attacking it. They haven't fought an aggressive war in almost 3,000 years.

[Light_beam]

who haven't fought?

[NamerOfStars]

Israel.

[TonyMetal___86]

There will be a day where there will be peace as long as all the fighting parties agrees that the war is useless and that it's time to find real solutions!

[Light_beam]

Peace how? Israel is implanted in the region by force and all of the people in the region refuse it..

[TonyMetal___86]

Not all the people refuse it only few countries and my country is one of them but personally since we can't go back to the past anymore and what happened had happened, the palestinians did wrong things too by selling their lands...

The whole humanity history is filled with similar stories but in then end, an agreement must be reached!

They all have the right to live in peace and no one can erase the other!

If they can't accept the facts than the war will never end and they will live for generations in danger and in pain!

[Light_beam]

They will always live in danger and pain.. WAR

[TonyMetal___86]

I hope not...

[thegreenyogi]

From what I am seeing I am not sure it can.

[Light_beam]

What are you seeing?

[thegreenyogi]

The way Israel namely the Government has reacted to attacks from other countries or criminal organisations in this case which is Hamas. And from my point of view: it's one thing killing hamas leaders and it's another attacking innocent civilians that have no control over the organisation that leads their country. And if it continues to behave this way it will be the war itself that will destroy Israel if its not careful. And that's why I say that unless something changes in it's approach it won't be able to live or exist without war. There will always be a reason for Israel to declare war because they are so easily triggered and in a way mistakes that were made in the past in previous wars are being made again.

[Light_beam]

Yes, True.. but what type of life people of israel can bear? A lifelong war? Feeling unsafe, threatened and afraid for ever? This is a shitty life really

[Light_beam]

You can think Hamas is criminal but the people they attacked were on officially occupied lands.. palastinian lands.. so?

[thegreenyogi]

War is unfair and everyone has different views. I just feel for the poor people on both sides whose lives have been ruined by war. And all the innocent lives that have been lost.

[Light_beam]

True..

[bluesparrow]

Israel needs to nuke Iran.

[Anonymous]

Why are Muslims going somewhere?

[Anonymous]

Israel is a war machine

[Light_beam]

There are civilians there!