Where are they?

[msc545]

The right wing on here keeps claiming that there are" millions and millions of illegal immigrants roaming all over America, creating crime and taking people's jobs"

So where are all of those millions and millions of illegal immigrants that the right-wing claims are here right now? For some reason not only have I never seen them but nobody else seems to have seen them either. I'll tell you one place they are not and that is here in Los Angeles where I live or for that matter anywhere in Southern California. You cannot miss millions and millions of people wandering around where they weren't before. None of them are here. Sorry.

So where are they? You guys? You have pictures? Or is all you have just wishes and the words of your cult leader?

Updates

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So there are apparently millions of missing illegal immigrants that the right has been insisting have "invaded" the US.

The lack of any evidence of this suggest to me that this is simply:

MORE RIGHT-WING BULLSHIT

[exitseven]

There are over a thousand on them that are living in two hotels less that 4 miles away from my house. On was involved in a high profile rape of a 15 year old girl that was on national news. Also there have been multiple stick ups and thefts in the areas, I see them in Home Depot parking lot which is 100 yards away. They look in the back of pickup trucks for things to rip off.

There are a thousand stories in the Naked City

[msc545]

There are supposed to be millions of them. Where are the rest of them?

[exitseven]

I live in a small area A thousand of them is a lot for a town with 14000 people to begin with. There are towns all over the state with similar stories. At the end of the year it will cost the staye over 2 billion dollars. in a state with a 35 billion dollar budget that is a significant amount to waste on something that never should have happened Ed in the first place and would have never happened if Trump was running the country.

[msc545]

Prove it.

[LOLATYOULMFAO]

Thats not how the burden of proof works. Dummy.
Oh let me guess, you think only claims that are positive have the burden of proof. Thats false.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Well, either we had millions of illegal aliens or somebody in the government stole almost a half trillion dollars in 2023.

[exitseven]

nypost.com/.../

[Daniela1982]

Don't forget that they steal from Home Depot and other stores and sell them on the sidewalks not far from the stores they stole from. Just read about all the cities that are going broke from illegal aliens. I remember a hospital here closed their doors because they couldn't make a profit taking care of illegals.
Beginning Jan. 1, for the first time, undocumented immigrants of all ages will qualify for Medi-Cal, the state’s health insurance program for extremely low-income people. It makes California among the first states to fund comprehensive health care for undocumented immigrants. Oregon in July dropped age restrictions for undocumented immigrants in its low-income state health insurance program.

Baudeilio, who has been denied coverage before and asked that his last name not be published to protect him from immigration authorities, will join more than 700,000 undocumented immigrants between the ages of 26 and 49 who will become eligible for Medi-Cal as part of the state’s final expansion of the program — the realization of a long-awaited dream for Californians without legal status.
All these cost will be passed on to insured patients, if they can even get in for an appointment. Someone has to pay for them as a hospital is a for-profit business. So it's the insured patients or the tax payers.

[msc545]

@Daniela1982 WHERE ARE THEY?

[exitseven]

@msc545 They are all over the place. The City of Portland, Maine has had to divert funds from fixing roads and bridges and taking care of the elderly to set up an entire bureaucracy to create a program to allow illegal aliens to have a permanent vacation in Maine, the way life should be.
The more money you spend, the more illegals you get. It is like that baseball movie, "Build it and they will come? Or as former Massachusetts governor William Weld said that if you give out dollar bills there will be people lined up around the block waiting to get some.

[Daniela1982]

msc545 WTF are you? A Biden suck up? Or do you just love to argue with everyone? Why are our opinions any worse than yours? You are not always right. 🙄🙄🙄💩

[Daniela1982]

@exitseven In California they were giving out driver's licenses, and the line was all the way around the DMV building. Why do they need driver's licenses with no cars? Or is the government going to give them cars, along with paid auto insurance, now?

[exitseven]

@Daniela1982 In my crazy state they are doing the same thing. Part of it is so they will vote. It is illegal for them to vote but they can register by mail with just a drivers license and besides the honor system (ha ha) there is no way to tell who is a citizen and who is not.. They all know if Trump is elected they will all be sent back. Just connect the dots.

[Daniela1982]

Crap! Thanks for ruining my breakfast. 😫🤢

[Caroline91]

"Unauthorized population" is definitely there. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/county/6037 Where are they? Living in homes and apartments for the most part, just like the rest of the population. Additionally, this undocumented population makes significant contributions to the economy, both on the state and federal levels. https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/issues/undocumented-immigrants/ Mass deportations would be catastrophic to both the social fabric of the communities they have assimilated into, as well as our economy at all levels. The entire "illegal immigrant" controversy is so much more complicated than we are usually given to believe.

[exitseven]

What do they contribute? They come here and leech off the taxpayers. It is estimated that it costs between $35.000 and $50.000 per illegal alien per year. This drag on the economy is causing overcrowding in local schools and hospitals. Capital projects such as new emergency equipment and new buildings are put oh hold because those funds get diverted to pay for ESL teachers, additional police and fire coverage and other services for our "newcomers".
There is no way and indigent, unskilled , uneducated person can earn enough money to afford to live in the US without government assistance. Meanwhile our elderly and veterans suffer.

[Caroline91]

@exitseven Ok

[Daniela1982]

@exitseven truly stated. You are right, but the asker will never buy it. He lives in a dream world and must be a shut in not to notice. 🤣😂

[SugarSugarplum]

Latest Border Control numbers are 20 million THAT THEY KNOW OF. So, more than that.

The right wing also says water is wet and the sky is blue.

[msc545]

It's very easy to make up numbers. But where are they?

[DrPepper12]

I'll take the census dept, homeland security and demographic statisticians at their word of around 11 million which based on economic events since Reagan's amnesty seems about right. I've seen them outside Home Depot at Dawn looking to get hired. Most landscape companies here are also staffed exclusively by illegal labor. They are out there. It's just not whatever number pops into Trump's head that moment

[andreasderjuengere]

I have nothing to add - and just ''liked'' your question :D

[andreasderjuengere]

Afterthought: since ca 1500 a. D. there indeed are millions of ''illegal immigrants'' in what is now called the ''U. S." of some of ''A''
:D :D :D

[msc545]

Exactly. Thanks.

[Daniela1982]

@andreasderjuengere They weren't illegal back then as there was no country. They actually had to work for a living or they didn't eat. They fought the British for their freedom of religion - which seems to diminish each year, which is ironic. Still they fought and died, and they have until today. If these people want to become citizens, they should have to serve in the military like many Americans did. Would any of them want to die for the freedom they want? No, it is easier to sell drugs and rip off stores. The honest ones work for a living though. Unfortunately they undercut everyone else which make it hard for Americans to earn a living. So do they actually contribute, besides causing unemployment for some? Most work under the table and pay no taxes. You won't find drug dealers, gang members, or other miscreants paying taxes. The Dems are hoping they will have new voters. If they win all they will be left with is a big mess and massive crime and drug deaths.

[andreasderjuengere]

@Daniela1982 A bad person isn't bad because this person is illegal.
I agree that criminals need to be weeded out.
But to categorize all of them into just one corner is similar to saying ''all Americans are trigger-happy world bullies''

[Berethor]

Here is one of the illegal migrants scum that leftists like you has allowed to enter the US.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/10/us-news/illegal-immigrant-charged-with-child-rapes-on-on-marthas-vineyard/

[goaded]

One in "20 million".

[Berethor]

There is a lot of those cases, and that scum was not needed in US in the first place.

[goaded]

No, there aren't.

[msc545]

@berethor Prove it.

[msc545]

Really? Where are the rest of those "cases" ?

[goaded]

Quiet here, isn't it? Also, who was president in March 2018, when he illegally entered the country?

[DrPepper12]

Remarkable. Fox, Post, Newsmax sells you fear, lies & outrage and you lap it up like a starving beaten dog. Pathetic.

[Sevenpointfive]

they are in sanctuary cities. don't you read the leftist news?

[msc545]

Sure, I live in a sanctuary City. They seem to be missing.

[Sevenpointfive]

they are in hotels. go check it out

[msc545]

There are plenty of hotels around here and no migrants or for that matter. Much of anybody else living in them. I think occasionally people from out of town stay there on the holidays and that's about it.

[Sevenpointfive]

half are in jail now, but they like taking over apartment complexes too

[msc545]

We have a lot of homeless people in jail unfortunately but they aren't migrants. They are just Americans who became victims of our crappy economic system.

[Sevenpointfive]

it's time for the homeless to start having a voice. i get that most are drug addicts trying to self-medicate, but would you rather criminals?

[Fromdusktilldawn]

have you ever visited New York?

[msc545]

Yes, and your point?

[Fromdusktilldawn]

NY is a main hub, where migrants are shipped to via buses

[msc545]

Do you think this proves something?

[DrPepper12]

I live in NY. Shipped by whom? Why NY? Sources?

by the way, What fair locale do you hail from?