Do you think we have to put up with liars on this site?

[Anonymous]

i mean people who deny actual reality. Either like physics (dust cannot be suspended in a vacuum), or politics (Biden helps people).

"former President Donald Trump tried to falsely claim that Brian Kemp, Georgia's Republican Governor, couldn't get President Joe Biden on the phone for Hurricane Helene relief, Kemp himself contradicted Trump's statements making clear just how helpful President Biden and VP Harris have been."

[razelove]

That sounds less like a lie and more like confirmation bias It's a he said she said put into a official capacity.

I don't think a lot of people are aware they are lying, they just see something that reinforces their belief and don't bother to read any deeper than the parts they like.

That is something literally shifting with time. People are so baselessly confident that they're raw dogging hookers at exponentially higher rates. Terrifying.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2861913/

No way that's just the base in San Diego either just going by the age, I digress though. More likely you're seeing Idiocracy play out in real time, and it's ignorance rather than maliciousness.

[Asker]

I think Trump had no clue if Kemp and Biden had talked, and he didn't care if what he said was a total lie. It would only be "he said/she said" if someone had told Trump what he claimed.

[razelove]

Maybe, when it comes to politics I tend to assign maliciousness rather than ignorance as I would with an everyday Joe. Think about all the evil shit George W and Dick Cheney did, and play off as just an ignorant Texas hick (Ivy league Air force Pilot).

He set a precedent, I don't think Kamala is as stupid as she lets on, more likely it's a sympathy play, it makes it seem like Trump is beating a child with rebar after throwing her grandpa Joe into a river.

I would prefer Trump for president, but it's important to try and understand just who the hell Kamala is aside from "defund" and "disarm". She has been lying as well with the flip flop positions, dubious past, etc.

They're both politicians though, so my bar is very low for what I expect and hope for.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Apparently, Kemp did actually tell Trump this, he got a hold of Biden after speaking with Trump.

At least that's the rumor

[Asker]

Sounds more like an excuse, to me.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I don't know seems like something that happens all the time irl and no one makes a big deal about it to me tbh.

Maybe it's a sign that the media has programed us to get worked up over nothing.

[Asker]

" Former President Donald Trump made this claim Sept. 30. But Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp said Sept. 30 that Biden had called him the day before. Kemp missed the call and called Biden back.
Kemp said Biden asked what Kemp needed and offered for Kemp to contact him directly.
A Sept. 29 press pool report said Biden had spoken to Kemp and other leaders that day."
www.politifact.com/.../

[Telekinetic-Potato]

OK I don't think that really proves anything. You think Kemp would have called trump right back to be like " never mind, I just got a hold of him"

[SweetPi]

Can we just mute the political side?

Honestly kinda agree! Not siding with trump in any way but one side will just make the issues worse.

While promising anything and everything o and Trump will ruin the US...

Like can we have a 3rd choice? 😉

[jshm2]

Yes. That's democracy for you. Liars have just as much rights as honest people.

It's why democracies don't work for long and end up in so many wars.

[Anonymous]

You know Russia didn't invade Ukraine while trump was president. Iran wasn't attacking either. Biden's weakness has invited attack

[Anonymous]

Yes you do.