How many of you "pro Choice" people feel you're carrying an actual human life while pregnant?

[Anonymous]

mandyfire98

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There can always be discussion involved in anything. I'm just telling you that a woman contributes more to the child before birth than the guy does. There's no denying that at all. My BODY, meaning it's my body that has to do all the work and literally keeps the baby alive. My body is the one that is doing everything while the baby is in there. So MY BODY, ultimately it should come down to my choice. Even if a discussion is involved. When a man has to go through everything I do during birth, then we can talk about how a woman shouldn't have choices over her own body

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For decades we've been told it's just a clump of cells but this user, that is proud to say she's pro Choice, says it's a baby her body "literally keeps... alive". Do they use the, "clump of cells" argument to make it seem like it isn't murder? This isn't a abortion rights argument, this is a, which is it, argument.

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I think it's funny, the one person I wanted to answer the question, deflected it. She basically denied she said it was a "baby" and "living" inside her body? Is that what you got out of it? When I went to call her out on it, I found out she blocked me! That's a coward! Like I said, it's not about whether or not abortion is wrong, it's whether or not you consider it a living being in your body. If you read her response, it is basically incoherent!

[Syntosi]

Probably most people.

I do think you should be aware of something though. The argument in favor of abortion is not that the fetus is not a human being so its fine to kill it, even though they are not humans at that point by our standards of person-hood, but rather the real argument is bodily autonomy.

You have the right to your body even if that rights means the death of another person. The most famous argument in favor of this would be the "world famous violinist" thought experiment which basically says that even if a person is entirely dependent on your body for survival, such as needing a constant blood transfusion, you have the right to say "no" and letting that person die.

A baby does not have an automatic right to the mothers body without her consent.

[mandyfire98]

"even though they are not humans at that point by our standards of person-hood"

Exactly. This right here ☝️

[lightbulb27]

definitely a human seed started. If mom don't want, dad doesn't want... noone in line to adopt... then how is the human going to live outside the womb? got no chance.

solution is to get that human in control to best place possible and support emotionally. forcing is not gonna work out. If you haven't dealt with emotionally disturbed hormonally charged women, then you should get some experience...

it's awful, no doubt. it's murder... legal murder. more like she is the judge and the child is the innocent convict. that's reality and true, isn't it?

[mandyfire98]

When it is a baby you dummy. When it's a clump of cells it's not a baby yet. However that clump of cells can develop later into a baby. This is the worst "gotcha" I've ever seen.

So yes it's my choice because when it does eventually grow into a baby, I will be the one going through all of the work and sacrificing my body to keep it alive.

What you got now? Not the head of your debate team in highschool were you?

[Agape93]

You ask too much of these people. Lol

[mandyfire98]

I swear there are some dumbass motherfuckers in this world. 🤣

[mandyfire98]

This person by the way is quoting me because earlier they posted a question as a pink account. Pretty pathetic.

[Agape93]

I know right?

My favorite to this day was a guy saying he was going to charge me with treason because I didn't like Trump xD been years bruh, still waiting xD

[BarryLiverstone]

I reported, this question is a member post and against gag rules.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

The idea of assigning humanity to something that isn’t born yet is relative. Personally, I believe life begins at breath and during incubation a fetus is not alive but being formed and, yes, the womb and body it is contained in are essential to its health once it’s actually born.

[NaultD]

So infant mortality rate is still high. So it's not possible to have same security as day to day life. Even sids for the early life is high and unavoidable. It's not negligence just life not being possible.

So maybe a better way of saying the same thing is fighting the odds to stay alive turns into putting effort into not dying. It sounds semantics, but I'm thinking there's a level of momentum fighting against clump of cells then that momentum tuns into helping keep a person from dying.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I mean, if I ever got pregnant, even if it's still just an egg I'd still consider it my baby. But I wouldn't ever want to bring a baby into this world, so I'd want to make the choice to have an abortion. I don't trust Earth to take care of my baby at all.

[Agape93]

@mandyfire98 apparently he was trying to tag you

To answer the guy, I understood I carried human life. I just value my life, my worth and my happiness and health over that clump of parasitic cells.

[SolitarySolace]

I'm gonna go off on a limb and say not many at all. Pro chociers are basically pro abortionists. Otherwise they'd be fighting for safe, legal and RARE not AVAILABLE 24:7 ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR ALL WHO *WANT* IT AND NOT JUST NEED IT

[Anonymous]

pro-abortionists think they're carrying tumors or parasites inside them

though if there were tumors or parasites inside them, it wouldn't be in their womb, it'd be in their brain

[msc545]

Murderers's rationale.

[Agape93]

Triple crimeicide

[FunkyMonkee]

I am.