Why do some women casually say “women create life” fantasy nonsense?

[Leviathon800]

I saw some comments in another forum from some feminists saying that “women create life.” I had no idea why they would make such nonsense, but it seems there are women who enjoy using these phrases. It’s as if there is some kind of feminist cult spreading this narrative. I don’t really care much about their perspective because biology simply does not support it.

Obviously, any reasonable person who has taken a basic biology course knows that women don’t create sh1t. Once the sperm from a man merges with the egg, life begins from that point: the genetic material from both gametes combines to form a diploid zygote, which then begins cell division and continues developing until a new life is formed. The process operates independently. Neither a man nor a woman directly creates the infant, nor do they have control over its appearance or how it functions. The biological process unfolds on its own. Even if both parents are asleep, life will eventually be formed. No human being consciously uses intellect or will to create life; that is not how it works. The female’s role is primarily to carry the fetus.

But why are some women so eager to promote this idea? Is it a coping mechanism in response to the pains of pregnancy? A female inferiority complex? Or perhaps both? Can someone please explain why some women, who may hold misandrist views, embrace this narrative that doesn’t align with reality?

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It seems women know deep in themselves that it is nonsense but they love to use these magic words to feel as mighty as a man…

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Can people please just read the description instead of just the title.

[Gold618]

Neither a man nor a woman directly creates the infant, nor do they have control over its appearance or how it functions.

You think they're not responsible for its creation? Well, when mummy and daddy really love each other, they engage in what could be called "naked wrestling", and... you figure out the rest. Life is created. That's just a fact.

No human being consciously uses intellect or will to create life; that is not how it works.

You don't say? That, however, doesn't mean that a baby could grow in the absence of either parent, or that life isn't created here.

But why are some women so eager to promote this idea?

Because it's true.

Is it a coping mechanism in response to the pains of pregnancy?

Of course not. Don't be daft.

A female inferiority complex?

Damn you're funny! :D :D :D :D

Can someone please explain why some women, who may hold misandrist views, embrace this narrative that doesn’t align with reality?

"... hold misandrist views..." - That's just you projecting your misogynistic views onto others. And it does align with reality. And you really do need to go back to school and study biology this time.

[Maven007]

It does not matter what you say, but saying "women create life" is not just an oversimplified and over exaggerated fantasy word, it is just simply biologically incorrect.

Most of these women saying this are ironically feminists who try to prove that women are as "great" as men. It is like they belong in some extreme cult with their own skewed aspect of reality.

What OP said about how the creation of the baby works is biologically correct.

[Maven007]

A simple reality and biology check will show that the creation of a fetus begins with fertilization, when a sperm cell enters an egg in the fallopian tube. This union creates a single-celled entity called a zygote, which contains all the genetic information needed to develop into a baby. The zygote cells divides repeatedly, forming a bigger ball of cells. No man or woman does this process. The cell division are doing it themselves, forming the fetus.

No one in their right mind would say "men create life" or "women create life". You said "Because it's true.". But it is not. Did you retake biology 101?

[MzAsh]

When people say “women create life,” they’re celebrating the unique biological process women participate in during pregnancy. Sure, it takes two to tango with sperm and an egg both needed, but let’s not downplay the nine months of growing a whole new human inside a body.

It’s a phrase that aims to recognize the literal life carrying and birthing role that women uniquely have.

[Leviathon800]

I am not downplaying anything. So in other words, you women use this nonsense just because you want to feel good as a cope? Biology does not care about your pain you do realise that? It still takes two to tango. So it would make also sense that men “create life”. After all, every woman in this world is born by a man.

[Leviathon800]

In that case, men create the world, all the lives in this world and the whole universe because overall, men suffer dozens times more throughout the history for the civilisations to persist that no woman can fathom.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

they sure as fuck do not create any life unless a man deposits his LIFE source in her.

without the life source of a man she will just have meaningful deaths in her every month. we men in the other hand again have our lifesource within ourselves moving around until we are ready to pass it own. its too bad that we are wasting it all to porn now

[Maven007]

"they sure as fuck do not create any life unless a man deposits his LIFE source in her."

they never create any life anyway. No one does. God modern women nowadays are soo stupid. Trying to prove they are as "great" as men.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Maven007 I'm no Atheist but I would of loved to believe it was God that created life instead of us losers when we decide to fuck with no protection, birth control or in modern women's case for ulterior motives

[Anonymous]

women abort more life than create life and they have the audacity to call men deadbeat dads for not paying child support for kids that aren't theirs

[Maven007]

Women try to come up with any oversimplified lies to make feel good about themselves in order to be "great" as men. It is eating modern women nowadays alive from within knowing that what good men have done for the human race (protecting, bringing forth more human lives, providing, feeding, clothing, etc) is more honorable to what women do (child rearing and nurturing children). They desperately try to climb the "biological ladder" so they feel equal or even better than men. But considering that men are stronger, faster, more intelligent and just more capable than women, a hard rock of reality hits their head backing them off. Furthermore, men are not biological handicapped once in a while like women are (menstruation, pregnancy, menopause, etc.) that makes women even lesser in terms of total contribution compared to the men's.

Or...

Childbirth is painful. So they like to oversimplify and do some word-playing to skew the definition of what they have really done (gestating a baby) to what is utterly wrong (cReAtE lIfE). Which is just biologically incorrect.

If you tell "men/women create life" to a child who does not know how human reproduction works, he/she will think that men/women do it by themselves from thin air using hands and/or brains. Deciding how that life is formed. Which is just plain BS.

[4ngelic]

when people say that they dont mean litterally women spawn kids without men's help, everyone knows you need a sperm cell + an egg to create a foetus. What they mean is that women are the ones who carry babies and grow them. it's not meant with misandry remotely, even very very conservative people and misogynists say things like this all the time. you're reading too much into it.

Though by the way women dont just carry the baby to term, the process besides initial conception isn't independent from the women. it's not a conscious process no, but the women's body actively grows the foetus by pulling blood, nutrients, hormones, energy, etc from the mom's body. that's why women when they get pregnant have to eat a lot more for ex

[Maven007]

"Grow" is used as an intransitive verb, meaning the subject performs the action on itself. We say "a plant grows," "a child grows," or "a business grows." It's an internal process of development and expansion. No one grows someone else. I cannot say, "Hey son, I grew you". No, the son grows itself, but that happens by the food, clothing, and housing I provide for my son and wife.

Even if they "dont mean litterally women spawn kids without men's help", the "men create life" or "women create life" is still biologically incorrect, making it incorrect in general anyway.

[Summeroflove]

Men create life it takes two and secondly feminists are the ones having abortions. Not all women act that way ifs narcissistic one sided women who want all the benefits of a traditional relationship but all the benefits of feminism.

The fact of the matter is avoid those women. It’s not all women who act that way. People who are narcissistic and live in a fantasy it’s because their real life SUCKS but they have to force other people to believe the delusion too to affirm it.

[Anonymous]

Women create life in the same way ovens create food.

Wouldn't it be nice if ovens actually created food? All that work I did Wednesday and Thursday this week wouldn't have been necessary. The oven would have done all the work and I could have just relaxed with family and enjoyed eating the turkey that I prepared and brined overnight, seasoned and rubbed with herb butter, stuffed with chunks of onion, lemon, orange and herbs, and then monitored the temperature for 3.5 hours.

But alas, that's just a fantasy. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the oven, because that delicious dinner would have been impossible without it. But we mustn't allow the oven to take all the credit.

[Anonymous]

Humans are allowed their opinions. Others like to label everything. Woman who think for themselves used to be called progressive now they call them feminist. They are just women thinking for themselves.

[katiesmuff]

Well they do carry most of the load in the process!

[Leviathon800]

Yes and? That does not equal “create life” right? Women carry the baby and push it out. It does not matter how painful it is, what is done is done: push the baby, that contains 50 genes from its father, 20 centimeters from your body outside. It does not matter how painful it is, it still take two to make one.

So do you why there are some women spreading nonsense of “create life”? Would women be comfortable with men saying “men create life” just to play along? After all, every woman in this world is born by a man, her father.

[Anybody30]

because they carry it nurture it and bear all the immense pain and emotional disturbance. So while going through all these women want to be appreciated and that phrase is for appreciation itself that they chose that path of undergoing immense pain. It's just to cheer up and bring positivity. You know when a women is pregnant and she tells herself that i am creating a life in my body.. that would bring more strength for them.

[Leviathon800]

So they tell that nonsense “create life” just because they want to feel good about themselves because of the pain rather the real process?

How would you feel if men said “men create life”? After all, it takes two to tango. But if women play like that, we men can play along as well

[Anybody30]

Well as long as it is as painful to have sex and release semen as. Carrying a baby and giving birth.. then men can say that too.

[Leviathon800]

“Release semen” is not the part of the reproduction. The moment when the sperm merges the egg, then the reproduction process starts.

You women do not make sense at all, you basically lying to yourself because of feelings. Biology does not care about your feelings.

In that case, then men would have right to say “men create the world, the universe and reality” which is way better than just “create life” because men throughout history have suffered fate dozens of times worse than pushing a baby out of your vagina just to live in the world now we live in.

Or cancer patients who survived cancer saying “I create everything” because of the suffering. Which again, does not reflect on reality.

So I know now, you women are telling this nonsense just because of your feelings. Got it. Pathetic.

[Anybody30]

😂😂

[Anybody30]

I don't know what to say you are too stubborn to understand anything at all except what you believe.
Anyways giving a last shot.
Listen the baby is created in woman's womb.. their body creates it not some magic right. So it is pretty okay to say that the woman created it coz it's their body afterall or you can be more specific that a woman's body creates it whatsoever.

[Leviathon800]

No girlie, you are a stubborn liar and just completely ignorant in general. Women ain’t creating crap. You need to re-educate yourself or stop coping because of your pregnancy pains. The moment the seed from a man reaches the egg, the process of developing the fetus goes by itself. You do not decide or do anything with the development of that baby. You just passively carry it, while the cells themselves are forming the baby. Neither the man or woman use their hands and brains and conscience in general to create that baby.

No matter how hard you cope because of your booboo pregnancy pains (even though men throughout history suffered and still suffer far more than what women can fathom), biology tells this: you just carry the baby while it grows itself and then at the end, you push it out your vagina.

Once again, cope some more. Biology does not care about your feelings.

And women wonder why men don’t respect them.. for what?

[Anybody30]

Why teaching me biology? I am med student i most definitely know the process. I clearly stated it's her body forming the baby her hormones.. carrying in her uterus.. so if we are not being so precise then it could be said that she created it. Anyways with so much technology now we can create a baby without her body though.
Anyways i already made my point clear that this sentence is used to respect the process a woman's body undergoes.
And not just women even men who respect and love the mother of their children or just single sensible men use this phrase as you could see other comments on your post. I don't find it as some sort of topic to argue over. Whatever you believe or say you con continue living with your version.

[BarryLiverstone]

@asker you should have been thankful a med student who is more knowledgeable about biology took her time to answer your question. She never said that men or women suffer more or create more. She just wanted to help you understand as you asked the question. So I don’t think you should be calling her a liar and trying to “win” an internet debate.

[Leviathon800]

You are still wrong. Woman’s body ain’t “creating” it. It is the hormones and genes from both the father’s seed as well as the egg doing it. That woman’s body is just carrying it. That is all. Furthermore, paternal genes, carried by sperm, are predominantly responsible for placental development. Additionally, sperm health affects pregnancy outcomes; damaged sperm DNA is linked to recurrent miscarriages.

So the sperm has huge effect on not only the baby, but also the woman itself.

My version is correct because what I wrote up til now is just copy paste from biology and reality. You VERSION IS FALSE because you use your feelings as cope and trying to justify “women create life”, even though that is not what biolog shows, but you women love using this because of the pregnancy pains I suppose.

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone She still insisted to say the nonsense about “women create life” in here: “ Listen the baby is created in woman's womb.. their body creates it not some magic right.”

If I understand it correctly, based on the patterns, women love to use this nonsense as a cope because of the pain that comes from childbirth. Yet, the process shows otherwise: it does not matter how painful it is, no human being “creates life”, it is both gametes combining to form a diploid zygote, which then begins cell division and continues developing until a new life is formed. While the female is just carrying it.

[BarryLiverstone]

You say they use pains as a cope. But for what? I’m trying to understand why you are anti woman and not supportive of new life

[Anybody30]

Ofcourse sperm health is important.. who denied? BUT strong bricks don't alone make the house.. you need the workers the cement etc.
All men who hold onto their women in those tough times are equally respected.. but just the sympthy is given to the female for having the courage to decide to have a baby and bear the pain.
Most of the credit is given to the woman because the man's job is only to penetrate and release semen. Both the man and woman are involved in this intercourse hence equal involvement until here. And then rest of all the work is done in woman's body without and man's involvement. If you consider ejaculation too as big of a job then you can definitely reverse the sentence.

If you so persistently believe in your thoughts why do you need validation? Go on continue your life with your beliefs rather than seeking whether you are right on not when you can't surely accept nobody's opinion.
Also i think you are missing the point that women bleed 5 days every month for years? That is also for pregnancy right.
And i don't think this is the right place to start a debate over who suffers more pain so bringing up how men since ancient time suffered in this discussion is baseless. This will be my last reply hope you got your answer.. and if you didn't you still have your very own answer so why bother.

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone “ You say they use pains as a cope. But for what?”

I have noticed a pattern when I see women proclaiming the statement "women create life" on the internet. This pattern has led me to a conclusion: it stems from either the pain of pregnancy, a perceived "oppression from men," a collective mindset among women, or envy that women may feel towards men because of the biological advantages we possess (such as being stronger, faster, having superior leadership abilities, not experiencing menstruation, and having fewer autoimmune diseases, among others). It could also be a combination of these factors.

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone As a result, many modern women tend to exaggerate their role in the process of gestating a baby. They oversimplify their experiences to sound more "grandiose," to the point where their claims do not align with reality and are simply untrue. Instead of acknowledging the process of gestating a baby or giving birth, some prefer to use the phrase "create life" as a form of overcompensation for perceived biological shortcomings or their sense of "oppression." This can be seen as an attempt to elevate their status above men.

This behavior may manifest as a reaction to feeling marginalized or oppressed, where individuals might overstate their capabilities or achievements as a defense mechanism to regain a sense of control or self-worth. However, these notions of "self-worth" often do not hold true in reality.

Imagine if men were weaker, slower, and less intelligent than women (in an opposite world) but retained the same reproductive capabilities as we do now. In that scenario, the so-called "men are wonderful effect" might come into play. Men would be placed on pedestals by women and considered extremely valuable, with statements like: "Men are the creators of life since they possess the almighty seed that initiates the creation of life. From the seed comes life, which is why men are incredibly valuable; their seed allows us to become pregnant, supports the child's growth, and ultimately creates the child within us."

Do you understand my perspective?

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes I understand better your perspective. But women are human beings like men and are just as smart and just as emotional. Guys are stronger physically but women are stronger emotionally. We need each other.

Women who claim pains in childbirth and pregnancy are a reason to be superior to men are not right. Much like guys who claim they build the world and superior to women are not right. We are all born and raised by people and we are all capable of doing great things. It’s not a war

[Leviathon800]

Just because you go through pregnancy pain, or because of your envy towards men because of your female biological shortcomings compared to men (weaker, slower, etc.) you don’t have the right to say “women create life” just as a overcompensation just to feel good about yourself. No matter what your feelings are, biology and reality does not give a shit about your feelings: women just carry the baby and push it out from their vagina. You don’t create sh1t. The cells and the gametes and the hormones from the sperm and egg are doing it themselves. You yourself don’t.

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone “Women are stronger emotionally “

What the fk does that even mean? They are like magnets against each other. If you are emotional, it makes you weaker mentally. How does the term “emotional” and “stronger” fit each other?

And I am sorry, I believe that men are superior simply because we are build more excellent, because of our biological traits that makes us more advantageous and achieve more compared to women for example: men are stronger, faster, more intelligent, emotionally more stable, no monthly menstruation periods, no menopauses, no pregnancy, etc. which makes us more powerful and more excellent than women. That is why generations by generations men took care and still take care of women, provide, protect, supervise, lead, etc. families and tribes. Women paid the debt by pleasing men by taking lighter roles like cooking and pleasing. Because of our biological traits, we men achieve more than women in general. That is why the top sports are dominated by men, top CEO’s are men, top this and top that are pretty much all dominated by men.

Women are in debt to men more than the other day round.

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone And Due to overcompensation—stemming from the historical fact that women are biologically less capable than men—the mainstream media narrative often targets women as the perceived weaker link. This is accompanied by a subset of propaganda known as “sensationalism,” which promotes themes of girl power and female empowerment, despite the reality suggesting otherwise. The corporations behind this narrative having access to Big Data are aware of the troubles women face today. There is a sense of envy toward men and a feeling of revenge stemming from notions of “patriarchy” or “oppression,” which are perpetuated by the media to incite tension and animosity between men and women.

[BarryLiverstone]

I’m glad you feel sorry. So you can continue to learn and grow and educate yourself. Women can be leaders, teachers, build houses, shoot guns in the military, and beat men in one on one combat.

Strong emotions are the range of human emotions we all feel. Generally speaking women are better at understanding our emotions and caring for those needs. Even as guys we feel deep emotions and that’s not weak. Do deny you feel things is weak

[BarryLiverstone]

No, the resistance to patriarchy isn’t related to women vs men. It’s a communistic theory

[Leviathon800]

@BarryLiverstone Women cannot be as great as men because once again, biological traits that men possess over women. If women were to be in men’s shoes for generations, women would already have died long time ago. Simply because women are not build to endure mental and physical hardships compared to what men can bear. Pick the hardest hardship that affects mental as well as physical health the most, you will see a man will be able to handle better than women. That is why generations by generations, men stood in the front, and women behind. The men are tanking everything to protect, provide, maintain their families: both their wives as well as children. This is especially transparent when the times get tough.

[BarryLiverstone]

I’ll try this. Do you agree it took your mom and dad to make you as a new life. And do you love your mom and dad?

[Maven007]

@BarryLiverstone He is right. Especially about "sensationalism". Women try to come up with any oversimplified terms to make feel good about themselves in order to be "great" as men.

[beefcakebradybatson]

We lads brand them and shoot out our boy batter, but the girls carry the babies.

[Leviathon800]

“Shoot boy batter” is not a process of reproduction, rather it is from sex. In female equivalent it would be saying “receiving boy batter” and that is it. You can compare “carry babies” to “shoot boy batter” because they both come from different aspects. If you are talking about reproduction then you would have to say something like “the sperm and egg for the zygote and causing the cells to multiply “ while the host (woman) is carrying the baby. Nothing more, nothing else. This is just pure biological check.

And another thing: A sperm involved in making the baby 50% from father’s genes. As well as the sperm is responsible in the formation of the placenta. You can look it up.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Men and women are partners in life creation.

[Leviathon800]

But why are there women who lie about “women create life”?

[DrPepper12]

Bruh. They create conditions for and sustain life. Don't need to be a feminist to hold that POV

[Anonymous]

They have to carry and give birth. Just give them this one thing.

[Leviathon800]

But they do not “create life” that is just beyond absurd. Carry and push the baby out of your womb is what it is but “create life” is just not. Why do you think they are so eager to use these magic words?

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know and I don't really care. Being pregnant/giving birth seems awful and can potentially even be dangerous. They can use whatever magical words they want to use. in my opinion

[Leviathon800]

You have to realise the more an individual repeats the lie, the more they will believe it themselves. Which destroys their mentality.

[Opinion Owner]

Letting women feel good about something isn't the end of the world. There are much more pressing issues that demand attention.

[Leviathon800]

Well, it can lead to the end of womankind. No man would ever want to marry this kind of witch with their sick mentality. And women wonder nowadays “why don’t men want to marry/approach women”

[onedarkcloud]

Last time I looked a woman alone cannot have a child alone. She needs help albeit from a useless male.

[KrakenAttackin]

It's right up there with "a woman makes a house a home". Idiotic.

[msc545]

Let them figure out how to do it without men...

[jshm2]

Because, how many men do you know that are "pregnant", jackass?

[Leviathon800]

Are you drunk? What has your sentence to do with anything? Women being pregnant means carrying the baby and that is all.

[Leviathon800]

Are you a simp or an agent trying to stir things up?

[Maven007]

Being pregnant does not equal "create life". Those two are complete utter light years away from each other in terms of definition.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Not like your dad pushed you out of his dick

[noohair]

They want to deny the need for men...

[DaBiggestBird]

Division.

[Anonymous]

Here for a little internet cry session?

[Leviathon800]

Can you maybe provide a valid answer instead of trolling or did I hit your nerve?

[Leviathon800]

There is no productive reasoning coming from a mouth of a woman as always.