Everyone ready for a debt hike?

[OddBeMe]

Everyone seems to only care about the debt and economy when a Dem is in office when were cleaning shit up. I just want MAGAs to keep the debt in mind

[lightbulb27]

that tic up was covid, I don't blame that on him... it was global. and if it wasn't for Trump and republicans, the checks going out would have been larger... because dems were pushing for that.

It does take two to tango and they both spend like drunken soldiers... it's the congress that forms the legislation to spend and prez spends it.

To Trumps credit, he's the ONLY president attempting to shore up the finances by cutting expenses... and is doing so from the executive branch not congress, because he sees the mess we are facing. He's also trying to avoid competitors to the dollar because the dollar is heading towards problems... globally. The bunch (Buy-a-den and HelpmeHarris) were a complete and total waste of your tax dollars and took us to 36 trillion dollars... whatever that means... because it doesn't pass an audit. They did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... NADDA... NIL... to repair finances and in fact named things "inflation reduction" that were inflation causing.

If you factor in the various loans and grants being handed out... that likely will never be repaid, that picture is going to look worse, but I have no details on that accounting... I just doubt they include it... but heck they probably aren't counting the recent 6 billion loan to ukraine as a total loss... nor are they counting ANY of the cost of rebuilding the country.

Lies, deceipt, charades, etc..

Attempting to repair the mess is gonna be like pulling the table cloth off the buffet dinner table.

[OddBeMe]

I do. Obama called it in 2016 and had a plan worked up. What'd trump do with it?

[exitseven]

When President Trump was in office my investments did so well I was able to pay my mortgage off about 7 years early. Two years later I paid off my mortgage on my summer house. Now I have no debt. I am glad he is back in office.

[OddBeMe]

I can't dispute personal bs. But the global crash from covid was in 2020 right?

[exitseven]

yes, things did not start to go bad for me until 2nd quarter of 2021.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Anonymous]

Yes the Democrats pulled out all the charts, statistics and studies but the people that actually live in America that were suffering Biden economics knew the difference

[OddBeMe]

Pretty sure they were suffering during trum, too. Just had a racist who told them they were better.

[Opinion Owner]

This is bullshit is why Democrats lost.

[OddBeMe]

Agreed! Being told immigrants are to blame is pleasing

[Opinion Owner]

People can see for themselves. No use in the Biden/kamala regime telling people how well the economy is doing when they can barely put food on the table or pay their rents.

[OddBeMe]

Ironic how well it was doing for rich fcks and you go and vote them into power. Like they'll do anything for you

[Opinion Owner]

So I'm supposed to vote for the people backed by the uber wealthy instead?

[OddBeMe]

Wait the Uber wealthy bacled trump... and backed kamala?

[Opinion Owner]

No just kamala. They spent about a billion on her, used their media outlets and brought in Hollywood to get her elected.

[OddBeMe]

So they did that... then trump makes them his cabinet?

[Opinion Owner]

There's rothchilds and rockerfellers in Trump's cabinet?

[OddBeMe]

do you think they still exist? Are you in special ed?

[Opinion Owner]

They definitely still exist. They are definitely very wealthy.

[OddBeMe]

No you ficking idiot, they don't exist today. Just estates like Carnegie and all the other barons.

Rothschilds is subtle antisemitic riff. That family was slaughtered in the holocaust and exists sparingly today. Try again.

[Opinion Owner]

Don't be ridiculous. The Rothchilds are a huge family that prior to WW2 had spread out to the UK and America. The french&austrian rothchilds gave up their back in ww2 and fled abroad. Yes they are Jewish and massive zionists, that is they have supported Israel b4 there was an Israel and do even to this day.
The richest member from the French branch of the family, banker Baron Benjamin de Rothschild, died suddenly from a heart attack in January 2021. He had a net worth of $1.1 billion in April 2020, according to Forbes, the equivalent of $1.3 billion (£1bn) in today's money, making him the richest individual Rothschild.
Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild, was the wealthiest member of the English branch of the family until his death in February this year. The retired investment banker had a net worth of $1 billion (£785m) according to Bloomberg.
Other notable members of the Rothschild dynasty today include James Rothschild, who's married to Nicky Hilton, sister of Paris. He's estimated to have a fortune in the region of $1.3 billion (£1bn).

Meanwhile, film producer and adventurer David Mayer de Rothschild has an estimated net wealth of $10 billion (£7.9bn), according to some online sources.

[OddBeMe]

Rothschilds were slaughtered in ww2. As i said a smattering of relatives.

But that's 150x less money than Trumps favorite oligarch. And you still chose to pick on the jew.

[Opinion Owner]

A quick Google search proves that you are completely wrong about the Rothchilds. Massively wealthy Jewish noble family with many cadet branches.
For instance Lord Jacob Rothschild only died in February and was worth 1 billion.
Jeff Rothschild is worth 6 billion. There are at least 4 or 5 Rothchild billionaire
https://www.forbes.com/profile/jeff-rothschild/

The only Rothschilds living in the path of the Nazi occupation were French baron Philippe Rothschild and his wife Elisabeth, a convert to Judaism, and Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild. The Baron and Baroness were captured by the Vichy government and their vineyard lands were seized, but the couple was released. At that point Philippe Rothschild, left France for England, where he joined the Free French Forces, while Elisabeth remained behind. She was eventually detained in Ravensbrück concentration camp, where she either died of typhus, or was burned alive in the ovens. Louis, who was a native of Austria and lived there, was arrested by Nazi forces at an airport in 1938 and taken into custody; Louis was effectively held for $21 million ransom, which was paid by his family for his release.

For the most part, however, the Rothschild family was generally located in England by the time that World War II broke out.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe I am not a racist.

[Anonymous]

Wait until a loaf of bread and half gallon of milk are $20 each.

[OddBeMe]

Still waiting

[ProbablyClueless]

I have a problem with debt hikes regardless of who is calling the shots.

A lot of the 2020 spike came from Dem's insistence on stimulus checks and shutting down the economy though. It should be noted.

[goaded]

Who was in charge of the government at the time?

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Taxing and spending is an enumerated congressional power. So, the Dems were in charge of that particular facet of the government.

[goaded]

Not the Senate or the presidency (Trump could have vetoed it). But sure, it must be 100% the Democrats.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded I blame establishment people in general, but Dems primarily. As you'll recall, when Trump expressed concerns about closing the economy; you all screamed about how he wanted to "kill grandma" from your pulpits of misplaced self righteousness.

[goaded]

Trump was wrong. Don't forget, he said he knew it was airborne in February but didn't wear a mask in public until June. He let morons spread nonsense without any push back because they were "his" morons. The USA ended up 14th in the world in deaths per capita from covid. Are you proud?

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded All things considered? I am incredibly proud. The man's analysis and overall response to the situation turned out to be spot on accurate. While every asshole carrying the the flag of empathetic virtue did a bunch of shit that unquestionably resulted in more people being killed.

[OddBeMe]

Trump halted some of the checks to put his own name on them... didn't he?

[goaded]

14th worst country in the world is nothing to be proud of.

[ProbablyClueless]

@OddBeMe he sure did. And the Democrats halted stimulus money to garner favor in the 2020 election.

[goaded]

No, they didn't. Name the bill you're pretending to be talking about.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded 14 out of g20... we spend it all on military

[goaded]

14 out of about 190. Deaths per million: USA 3,642. UK (who also had a right wing idiot in charge) 3,389. Germany 2,182. Canada 1,538.

Rankings: 14, 18, 51 & 79.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Not pretending. Here's the story from your own propaganda rag. www.nbcnews.com/.../pelosi-says-no-covid-19-relief-election-day-blames-white-n1245016

[goaded]

The article that says "President Trump has also signaled that no stimulus deal is coming before the election."? And also "This month, the House passed a $2.2 trillion Covid-19 relief bill. The measure passed 214-207. No Republicans supported it and 18 Democrats voted against it."?

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Among the many other words it says; yes. Pelosi held the bill hostage under the pretext of trying to get as much money through. This is a point that nobody even disputes

[goaded]

It literally says that all Republicans voted against it.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded It sure does

[OddBeMe]

Just to clarify... you're against covid relief for regular Americans?

[ProbablyClueless]

I'm against Covid relief for pretty much everyone. I believe, and I think the historical record has consistently shown, that the underlying rationale for needing the relief in the first place was entirely unreasonable and unfounded by the data we had available.

The only reason relief was ever appropriate at all was because a bunch of people chose to lose their goddamn minds and shut everything down. These days, every metric we have available to us indicates that our response did more damage than the virus.

[OddBeMe]

What history supports you? Stimulus is always better than tax cuts.

[ProbablyClueless]

The history I was referring to was actually that of the virus, but the economic history of stimulus payments isn't too great either.

People generally use stimulus money to pay off debt which stagnates the money, rather than buying new things to help the economy. We saw a lot of that happen with the Covid Stim money. We also saw a meaningful increase in the speed of inflation from the Covid Stim Money, and that increase in the cost of goods destroyed the progress people made getting out of debt. fivethirtyeight.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

I love click bait articles like that. Stimulus probably drove inflation! (Editors note) covid and global supply chain drove inflation. Lol

[ProbablyClueless]

That's not how inflation works.

And anyway, what editor's note are you talking about? I don't see any editor's notes.

[OddBeMe]

Lol. They don't actually put "editors note" in there genius. But you can tell when they completely contradict themselves within a few sentences.

[ProbablyClueless]

Plenty of publications absolutely put "editor's note" in the story. I have a professional background as a journalist. The story isn't contradicting itself just because it doesn't line up with your ideology lol

It's okay to admit when you're wrong, buddy. I won't think any less of you.

[OddBeMe]

lol. They barely put "sponsored article". I'm in PR and I pay for that shit.

There are "corrections" but not on commentary. Which is what you posted.

[ProbablyClueless]

Wait wait wait... you WORK IN PR and you STILL believe the company line? How's that even possible?

[OddBeMe]

I believe cited evidence corroborated by numerous platforms. I don't just beleive snopes because it's snopes. That'd be like voting for trump despite all the bullshit he's said.

[Sevenpointfive]

debt hike? that's the exact opposite of what's going to happen. his advisors were all jew dems his first time around. that shit isn't going to fly this time.

[Billlewis]

I am. I'm well positioned in petroleum, mining and other raw commodities.