If you think it's okay to unalive an insurance co. CEO, is it also okay to do the same to a vax company CEO?

[Anonymous]

Assuming you or a family member were harmed by a vaccine, does that make it okay to kill their CEO? Both companies provide products/services, and deny them too. Both save lives and both cause lives to be lost.

How about food companies? For diabetes are heart disease they cause? Alcohol companies for drunk driving deaths? Car companies for auto collisions? Gun companies for gun deaths? Drug dealers for overdoses? Everyone?

[Stevepro68]

Unaliving anyone for corporate wrong doing is lynching and wrong. But why pick vax? A small division of a gigantic industry. But it's hard to have sympathy for companies that make money off of the sickest and most vulnerable of the US population let's face it vaccines save lives directly. Moving money from pile a to pile b saves no lives. Food downtown cause diabetes human behaviors and genetics cause diabetes. Alcohol is not forced upon people by the government like health insurance is. No one must drive a car or drink a beer. This is what we call a false dichotomy. They are not just like each other. Guns need to be better regulated but gun companies themselves are not at fault for what people do. Anymore than tank companies are responsible for genocide in war. The people who make money off of denying people healthcare need to go. Not to the graveyard but they do need to go out of business. The only good that comes from this death is that there is more attention to a horrible US healthcare injustice that has been slowly evolving over 50 years. Where the golden rule has become the rule not the exception, and insurance companies are practicing medicine without a license and with insulation from legal repercussions.

[Asker]

Healthcare companies provide 1,000x more care than they deny, and absolutely no care is forced on anyone. No insurance plan is forced on anyone. Emergency care can be attained regardless of financial status. Everyone can go on welfare and get free insurance. So there is no force involved anywhere that I can see.

And having more financially sound business will lower costs to make them more competitive. Which brings more coverage to more people. A company that frivolously approves anything will be unaffordable and less people will be able to afford to purchase their services that are being consensually offered.

Vaccines are overwhelmingly forced onto people. Kids get zero choice. And even then, parents are getting no choice unless they're somehow extremely rich and can afford to pay for their kids to never be part of normal society. And many were forced to vax or starve because they would lose their jobs. If we used these standards for sexual consent, everyone would understand that this would constitute rape.

[Stevepro68]

Vax or starve where does that come from? Who where? The number one cause of bankruptcy is uncovered medical expenses. 1000x nothing is nothing. I pay 25k for medical insurance per year. I broke my arm skiing and I payed 2500 USD my insurance covered 18 dollars of that injury. I am hardly an exception. And you are forced to have health insurance or face a cash penalty enforced by the US government. Stop being a sheep and buying the governments retoric about health insurance.

[Asker]

Losing your job. From the government and from the government allowing private companies to do the same thing.

Me being the sheep is fucking hilarious. You're eagerly and aggressively licking boots over here and trying to play an uno reverse card. What rhetoric is being bought? What government is promoting that rhetoric?

Let me ask you this, would you also lack sympathy if the heads of the government healthcare agencies were killed? Ya know, because their level of care has also caused deaths. I mean, I see you Stan for vax, so do you also Stan for gov health providers?

[Stevepro68]

My name is not stan. You think the government isn't bought and paid for by big corporations like United health. That their healthcare billions don't keep you down. That they are already trying to turn the narrative in sheeple like you to be blaming the victims of healthcare insurance. I don't know who stan is but it's clear to everyone here. Who is being led by the nose. I hope when you lose your home when you get sick the billionaires drive by you on the sidewalk and have their servants toss you a quarter. Servs you right.

[Asker]

I think there's no difference between government and corporate rulers, but only the government has the power to actually do the wrong thing. You worshipping them is pathetic.

Not knowing what a Stan is kinda funny though.

Typically response though. Wishing harm and going off about nonsense because you couldn't address the actual points. At your age you should be capable of having an adult conversation. Guess you never developed reasoning skills though. You just wander through life like an emotional zombie, eating up whatever the rulers feed you.

[Stevepro68]

After 6 years of unhinged identity politics, yes I am done having conversations with people. Who are just looking for retorical confirmation of their personal sacred cows. That use the Internet as their personal soap box for the endless grind. Of whatever their issue is. Corporate influence is real, it effects what we read what we hear and what we elect. Ask yourself one simple question. How many murders in NYC in November have a indightment two weeks after they occured? Or is it just the rich and powerful who get justice? Is it just our rich and powerful masters who deserve this level of attention and police investigation. Has the story not been effectively spun to make him not an average citizen, a rich spoiled good looking kid, who likes the Unabomber. You want to drink the Kool aid my friend have at it. Try opening your mind and not following whatever talking head on TV tells you what to think. Stop searching for things on the internet that tell you you are right. Start looking for things on the internet that tells you are wrong. If enough people do that maybe things will change.

[Asker]

You really think NYC murders of normal people don't result in quick arrests? Drop some stats to prove that one, or else you're just making shit up. A vast, vast majority of police resources go to the poor, not to the rich. And it's not even close.

Funny your bullshit you talk about opening your mind and not eating what the rulers are feeding. You're an obvious product of it all and are obviously projecting. Take your own advice and try to be honest for once in your life

[Stevepro68]

I'm not the one sucking up to some CEO here. I know you will not be moved by stats because. It's pointless to talk facts with those who ignore them. But for others who may waste thirlerntime reading this. There are about 345 to 370 murders per year in the city. Little less than 1 per day. On average. NYC has a murder clearance rate of about 64% on average. About 2 thirds. Solved 1 third never solved. Given your claim is that the vast majority of money is spent on poor. Even if you give a full percent of all murders are the super rich that means maybe 1 person a year gets murdered that is top 1q earner. They solved that crime in 2 weeks. Allegedly. So using math I'll be generous and say 2 super rich people are murdered a year in NYC. The murderer goes free in 145 murders per year in NYC not for a month not 6 months. Forever. So even if 1 super rich murder goes unsolved it's 1(unlikely) vs 145. This crime is solved in 2 weeks. After a masked unrelated male leaves and goes to another state. The long island serial killer has killed six sex workers and he is still unknown after 20 years. I think it's clear which of us is projecting their sucking up to the ruling class here. The cops are bought and paid for by the ruling elite. There are 2 justice systems one for us and one for them. If I can see it because I can understand that not everything fed to me is true. You seem to lack that quality.

[exitseven]

look, its never good to kill somebody.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Anonymous]

Only low IQ and emotionally immature people believe it's okay. The others that take the safe position of "I'm happy it happened but have to pretend that I'm okay with it" are just intellectually dishonest and cowardly.

The only scenario you described that even sort of justifies violence is the vaccine thing, because it was literally forced onto people. Mostly kids, but plenty of adults had to decide if they would lose their entire lives, or get put on house arrest if they didn't get vaccinated. That's obviously not consent. So killing someone (it doesn't have to be a CEO) that is forcing something on you, is partially justified. Every other scenario you described is an optional product or service that no one has to buy.

I mean, I guess Obamacare forced people to by health insurance, but that's the government, not the company that forced it. Now that I say that, it wasn't even the vax companies that forced it, either. But we both know that insurance companies lobbied for forced insurance purchases (a mandatory component of Obamacare) and for forcing people to get vaccines, so maybe they're still at fault. I don't know

[Opinion Owner]

"I'm not* okay with it"

[lightbulb27]

it's wrong to kill people. It was wrong for John Lennon to be shot dead for... who knows what? And the girl actress that was gunned down decades ago at her door.

But this is not a logical issue. When people are emotional creatures and anger, can go weird directions. When they associate it to some grater cause... then they have a mission.

some people will view themselves as "martyrs"... or play that card.

[Graptemys79]

Murder is never okay. I don't care how people try to rationalize it.

[DrPepper12]

It's not ok for any human. Vigilantism is for savages.

[Anonymous]

Nobody says it's okay. People simply understand the motivation.

[Asker]

Many people are saying it's okay, but I think you're right that a majority are just understanding the motivation. Like when a man murders his cheating wife, most people understand the motivation, and a vocal minority will believe it's actually okay.

[Opinion Owner]

There will always be a percentage of mentally disturbed people in the population.

[Asker]

Always.