
What do you think of Talleyrand's opinion of America in the 19th century?

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It is an interesting portrait of America. I was unaware Talleyrand had an American exile. I find the contrast of wealth and not squalor but primitiveness interesting in that it seems to offend him. I'm not sure why that is.
A special hat and piano in primitive house obviously meant the owners had become wealthy and spent some of that money on luxury items in aspiration for better life style. I don't find that at all surprising and fairly natural. Somewhat akin perhaps today with a young person, just starting work, buying a flash car, before acquiring a house. .
I could imagine building materials like bricks were less available (very heavy to transport) and quite probably skilled tradesmen where scarce as maybe every body who could was settling their bit of America.
I do want to empathize building materials. I know nothing of the US of course. Fifty years from Tallyrand's time, just a couple of K's from my modern concrete tilt up in Melbourne, there are some iron houses made from prefab cast and wrought iron. Cold in winter and hot in summer - not really desirable but they were houses. Still they were decorated with fripperies like iron lace.
You made housing from materials available is my point - if that was logs so be it. Then made them comfortable with fripperies. So I am surprised Talleyrand was surprised.
It seems like he's saying that Americans are getting greedy with unnecessary decadence, and while ignoring it's overall development..
Haha well he was and still is right..
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Sounds like the description of any empire that colonizes, at any given time.
The French Empire fell and modern day French are a joke. I'll care what they think... about never.
The USA is not an empire in the traditional sense of the term, moreover even if we were to admit that the USA was an empire, it would not last, countries like the UK, France etc are much older countries than the USA, and they are still in the top 10 world powers, will the USA still be in several centuries?
What's more, your reasoning is totally flawed, because at the time of this declaration, France was the dominant power.
This was written when, 1790 and the French Empire fell in 1810? The point is with thought leaders like these how could they not fall? Will America be the global hegemon in a century? Hard to say, not if we care what these losers have to say. Especially when they were trying to claim the Americas at the same time.
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Sure, we can be friends with the French, when they're not talking shit.
Even more topical in 2025 than in the nineteenth century.
Sounds like one more condescending French man.
Very correct...
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