Are We (the U. S.) the Bad Guys?

[Kelley1]

Is it possible that Saddam Hussein—for all of his tyranny—was, relatively speaking, the good guy, while we Americans—who wrecked the place and turned it over to devils—are the the bad guy killers?

Since the “bad guy” Assad was overthrown in Syria, the place has been taken over mostly by former Al Qaeda terrorists. Again, who is the “bad guy”—Assad or the U. S. who supported a band of homicidal fanatics?

[purplepoppy]

You're threatening Canada, Mexico, Greenland, the Panama canal. Grump is now discussing how to divide Ukraines assets up between Russia and the USA. You've made direct threats to over throw the UK government and replace it with a far right hate group. Yes you are the bad guys

[Kelly6]

@Kelley1 based of all the past and current wars, yes it seems like US is bad

[Kelly6]

@Kelley1
Thanks for mho

[MisterWack]

America in recent years can be seen as Imperialistic at times : Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other conflicts we dive into for ‘War On Terror’.

We have a ‘global police force’ that monitors the doings of the other nations and tribes.

We literally lied about Vietnam sinking our ships so, we would invade them just to lose so many innocent lives. We allow Oligarchy to take form, Healthcare to be at an all time low where people have to travel to Canada for sufficient healthcare….

America is not looked kindly around the world and to solve why, we should be willing to look into the mirror and say enough is enough then clean up our act.

[Levin]

That would depend on the intent of the original action. Which we all know, with respect to the US, is not exactly pure.

They're mostly myriad strategic blunder. For example, that isolating Russia would not make them coddle up to the rest of the BRICs.

As the German below says, it's mostly just short termism, myopic, idiotic. As terrible as many of these regimes were, they were functioning government. Usually once the west withdraws, what replaces the power vacuum is worse.

These things exist in shades. I think the US is both good and bad. Paradoxically.

[DryGermanGuy]

The problem is that the United States think like a goldfish, only for the next business quarter. For a successful regime change and nation building you have to be prepared to go all in for the next 25+ years! If you can’t commit to that, better not start anything.

[DrPepper12]

That's a great point. TY

[Gwendoline]

Or stop and don't. These US regime change wars and propping up US friendly regimes always end the same way with the bodies of innocents piled up. Look at all the problems they caused and the end result.
Look at all the problems they created in Britain alone.

[Jersey2]

@DryGermanGuy The *S has been out pacing the EU by quite a bit in GDP for the past 15 years. The goldfish are winning.

[Jersey2]

US* (typo)

[DryGermanGuy]

@Jersey2
And the connection between GDP and successful nation build is... what, exactly?

[Jersey2]

It’s the difference between having a growing economy, competing well against the world, having more money, indicative of higher tech, being able to defend your own country… in short expanding vs contracting. Europe is falling behind.

As a 20 something Brit Tech entrepreneur recently said, Europe is becoming a museum.

[SixFootSexy]

The short answer is yes. The longer answer is, hell yea we ruined the political leaders around the world along with economies, kept groundbreaking technologies and truths suppressed... we're the bad guys frfr.

[Bricealan]

@Kelley1 You would think so if you listen to all of the bullshit from the leftist media. We get involved where we maybe shouldn't and get lives lost...BUT the rest of the cowardly countries play Ostrich and look the other way when international shit hits the fan.

[Kelley1]

It that an excuse? It is not a valid because what other fail to do doesn't justify what we do.

[Bricealan]

@Kelley1 It certainly does! Many countries (most) have no stomach for trying to help others. Australia and Great Briton are two of our allies and always have been
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We took a laissez Faire attitude before WWII and got the shit bombed out of Pearl Harbor, because we FAILED to do anything and got many hundreds of military and civilians killed.

Just WHERE do you think the United States should "stand down" ? After the destruction of the World Trade Center and the thousands killed there?

We should have never gotten involved in Viet Nam, and gotten 52,000 men killed and many thousand of others maimed and permanently crippled...

Where do you as a civilian... draw the line on what we should and should not do or get involved in?

[Hellraiser1984]

Honestly I think the 2nd Iraq war was completely made up and unnecessary. Same for Syria. The USA destabilized the middle East. And takes no responsibility for it. I have some serious doubts and questions about 9/11 too. We f Ed up and the citizens of those areas have to pay for it.

[QuestionObsession]

9/11 was an elaborately orchestrated plan by Israel to lay the foundation to demonise the entire Arab world once and for all. And it unfortunately worked.

[adventurous-1]

We didn't use to be but as our government leadership has changed so has our treatment of our friends and allies, Out image is now one of evil due to self serving policies and greed. We no longer ask what can we do for you but rather what can you do for us.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

That was caused by Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Hilary Clinton, who intentionally armed terrorists in Syria and Iraq and should have been impeached and executed.

Muslims are the bad guys. They like making truck bombs and IEDs and blowing up civilians. If we just banned Islam and enforced the ban, the problem would be solved.

[QuestionObsession]

Muslims were not the bad guys, they were made bad by the British and French after the Ottoman Empire collapsed with WW1. Then the Zionists forced Muslims to become the bad guys, followed by the USA.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@QuestionObsession the land belongs to the jews and has belonged to them for 4000 years. Your genocidal nonsense has been debunked many times.

[QuestionObsession]

The Americas (North and South) belonged to the Native Indigenous people for millennia far exceeding whatever time length ancient Israel is associated with Jews. And the Natives were killed out of their lands. So by this logic of historical belonging of a land to a particular population, the entire North and South America should be given back to the natives and all the white people should be thrown out to their respective European ancestral countries. Also, Jews are not the original population of ancient Israel/ Judea. They were inhabitants of East Africa/ Ethiopia who then migrated to Judea as immigrants. And then they were kicked out of there because it was never their land.

Bottom line is. White people are racist colonial settler pigs who have stolen lands and have been doing the same thing all throughout history and the Zionist Israelis are the same evil.

There is absolutely no argument in favour of Israel and Jews, neither historical, nor religious/ biblical, nor ancestral.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@QuestionObsession Wrong. The Declaration of INdependence shows the Godly charges against the Native Americans. They were murderous savages who broke treaties and kileld and scalped men and raped women. The Declaration shows the King of England was hiring them to do more of the same to oppress the colonists. The natives legally sold their land to the colonists, and then started a war to get it back. that's the problem.

[QuestionObsession]

@SeekerOfTruth007 I missed mentioning, all white Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of converted Gentiles from ancient Phoenicia. The original Abrahamic Jews are all African/ black from Ethiopia and Egypt. So the white Jews are not even the real Jews.

[QuestionObsession]

@SeekerOfTruth007 Your information is false. The entire historians fraternity is in agreement that the Europeans were the savages, Spanish and British and French. It is the racist ego that is in denial. Dig deeper and live up to your username. Cheers

[QuestionObsession]

Israel is the mother fucking bad guy and behind everything that has happened in the middle east since WW2.

After Israel, the USA is the bitch of the bad guy above because this bitch does all the dirty work for the bad guy. USA politicians are dummies of Israel.

That is the truth no matter which country in the Middle East.

[David_beckham]

Well, looking at the past of the US, or any country for that instance, I don't think a country is bad or good; it all depends on the people who are running it. If they are good, the country will do good things, and if it's in bad hands, it will do bad things.

[DrPepper12]

We (and they) are the bad guys now.

We were the mixed assessment guys previously

We were the good guys in the 1940s internationally

[msc545]

If war is bad then we are the bad guys because we are the people who start almost all of the wars. We do this to make money. There is no other rational reason to have a war.

[ProbablyClueless]

Generally, yes. We've been the bad guys for the last 50-ish years, for sure. Every once in a while we'll pick a virtuous fight, but it's usually needless wars fought for profits.

[Shiprex]

In a way, US imperial desires are wholly based around €£$ money. It isn't interested in human benefits but uses that to get access to resources in others lands.

[Ladsin2]

Nope, aren't you French? If not why support them? Just wave the French Flag and call it a day.

[HungTexan]

We’re not good or bad, its just geopolitics.

[shortster]

9 times out of 10, we have been the good guys. It is just 10% of the time we haven't been (usually when the CIA is involved).

[masterSir]

Saddam would let his sons randomly rape women.
Syria was two Nad guys fighting eachother. Like two gangs fighting.

[dustybiker2]

America is ignorant as all out.

[Dargil]

Only democrats.

[exitseven]

No, the US is the good guys.,

[Twalli]

We are now, but not always or usually.

[nawtee_me]

America. Love it or leave it…..

[DrPepper12]

No. It doesn't work that way. Those of us who think that America is not perfect stay here to try to move towards the promise of the declaration of Independence & constitution.

Analysis & Criticism is an act of love & redemption.

[beefcakebradybatson]

YEP !!!